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typh0id wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Huh, I guess they realized the continual repaints won't sell.

I very seriosly doubt that...Coming to that conclusion would cut their output in half...I don't see that happening...This is probably an isolated event...

nemesis-prime wrote:i wouldnt be suprised if we see the univese line toys that are suspose to come out being cancelled too

Don't you even JOKE about that

According to what Hasbro put out out at ToyFare last week, Universe is scheduled until Spring '09. So it is wrapping up right now anyway.

Since they projected 8 Animated Voyagers this year (including Wreck-gar, and Lugnut). So this could possibly make room for 6 new voyagers, instead of 4 this year. I hope the cancelation of these two, improves the chance to get more Season 3 characters made into voyagers (or the constructicons would be nice!!). But I doubt it.

BTW, The one Target that I found the Wreck-gar wave 3 weeks ago still has both Lugnuts sitting on the shelf, right next to the originals. Too bad too, I kind of like Lugnut

Bumblebee was a brand new mold.

Grimlock, I was actually a bit interested in.

I wonder whether presales suffered because of the number of morons who think that Hydrodive Bumblebee is a "repaint"... in any case, hopefully Hasbro will figure out some way to bring this ALL NEW MOLD Bumblebee figure to market, as I really wanted one that was more in scale with the other figures in the line (and was not an Activator).

Sheesh.

TheMuffin wrote:It's a repaint with a piece of crap submarine attachment.

Actually, the Bumblebee is indeed new. Compare:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS16635&mode=retail&picture=aux2

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/animated/bumblebee/1432/1/57/

Notable differences: The hands, feet, lack of stingers, expression.

I'd imagine he would've been smaller as well.

That blows, I really wanted that Bumblebee.

I guess my Activators version will have to do.

They could choose to release BB without his underwater sled as a deluxe. Either in the animated line, or even under universe.

bagofshhh wrote:

typh0id wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Huh, I guess they realized the continual repaints won't sell.

I very seriosly doubt that...Coming to that conclusion would cut their output in half...I don't see that happening...This is probably an isolated event...

nemesis-prime wrote:i wouldnt be suprised if we see the univese line toys that are suspose to come out being cancelled too

Don't you even JOKE about that

According to what Hasbro put out out at ToyFare last week, Universe is scheduled until Spring '09. So it is wrapping up right now anyway.

Since they projected 8 Animated Voyagers this year (including Wreck-gar, and Lugnut). So this could possibly make room for 6 new voyagers, instead of 4 this year. I hope the cancelation of these two, improves the chance to get more Season 3 characters made into voyagers (or the constructicons would be nice!!). But I doubt it.

BTW, The one Target that I found the Wreck-gar wave 3 weeks ago still has both Lugnuts sitting on the shelf, right next to the originals. Too bad too, I kind of like Lugnut

atomic lugnut is just plain ugly ill never get hime i just got wreck-gar

i would never pay voyager price for an activator size BB

GuyIncognito wrote:

Omega Sentinel wrote:I'm not too disappointed over the cancellation of 2 pointless repaints. Guess the lack of sales for Atomic Lugnut killed this wave.

Hydrodive BB wasn't a repaint. And I was really looking forward to it since I didn't buy the original or the Elite Guard.

As for Atomic Lugnut, the stores in my area are just starting to get him, so I don't know how you can already be drawing conclusions about the sales numbers. Plus, Atomic Lugnut is ten times cooler and more badass than the purple and teal one.

I'm drawing conclusions because they have been shelf warmers here for the better part of a month. And eventhough the BB came with a different accessory it was still a retool at best and a repaint at worst. I would liken the Bumblebee to Samurai Prowl only the Prowl concept is infinitely cooler and it was actually in the show (and he is not $22).

I really wanted that BB, but he could come out later if the Animated line continues after the movie (I'm kind of hoping it will be on hold for a year or so during the movie) or even as part of Universe.

I'm also holding out hope for the rest of the animated seekers, either as store exclusives or as part of universe.

Wierd. Cancelling a repaint isn't really shocking, but canceling a major new toy (the submarine if not the figure) seems odd from a business standpoint.

Given, I would typically be critical of anyone staying the course simply because of sunk costs, but it's odd to see a company not make that mistake.

Kind of unfortunate - I might have gotten the Hydrodive Bumblebee.

bagofshhh wrote:

typh0id wrote:

nemesis-prime wrote:i wouldnt be suprised if we see the univese line toys that are suspose to come out being cancelled too

Don't you even JOKE about that

According to what Hasbro put out out at ToyFare last week, Universe is scheduled until Spring '09. So it is wrapping up right now anyway.

Right...But those TRU exclusives BETTER come out...Countdown is the last planned Universe figure I'm excited about...

I want countdown too

Noooo! I was really, really looking forward to Hydrodive Bumblebee, since it looked pretty cool and I never picked up the first two Deluxe Bumblebee figures.

SolCross wrote:Noooo! I was really, really looking forward to Hydrodive Bumblebee, since it looked pretty cool and I never picked up the first two Deluxe Bumblebee figures.

Maybe youll find a prototype on ebay

I was looking forward towards the Hydro BB as well, I liked the new hands/arms [I never liked the half drills], and though it could just be lighting/editing but the yellow seemed to be more like the Activator's BB yellow. The deluxe BB was too fluorescent.

metaphorge wrote:hopefully Hasbro will figure out some way to bring this ALL NEW MOLD Bumblebee figure to market, as I really wanted one that was more in scale with the other figures in the line (and was not an Activator).

I use my activators BB for scale with my voyager prime and deluxe ratchet as well =P

Im hoping too that this will eventually become a convention exclusive or something.

So does this mean that they're not making any more Animated toys? If thats the case this blows. No season 3 figures. I was hoping for a new Rodimus and Cyclonus. Wonder if Soundwaves going to go canceled too? I was actually thinking about getting bumblebee. Looks like hasbro just saved me $20.

I wanted that Bumblebee because he looked a lot better than the deluxe. Le Sigh

It worries me a bit. Usually when they cancel figures, it's a sign of things to come.

The odd thing is, we saw nothing of Animated or Universe at Toy Fair (nor did we hear about it's eventual demise or continuation.) and apparently neither Bumblebee or Grimlock made it to production, otherwise we'd have seen Chinese sellers hocking them on eBay.

I'm hoping it's just a case of these two being canceled, not the whole line.

If they cancel the line and Arcee never gets made, Hasbro's going to have hell on it's hands with disgruntled fans.

And really, it wouldn't kill 'em to at least give us Arcee.

There is no need to start jumping to conclutions about any products beyond Grimlock and BB.

Arcee and ES:SW have had a similar expected release period as the other two and we have yet to hear of those getting axed, so lets worry about what we know, lest we create disinformation.

The fact Hasbro had nothing at the NYTF is no shocker seeing that the preorders for the figures we have known about would have already started for corperate buyers, and that we know full well that Movie releases will be dominating things for most of this year. Just as the GIJoe displays were all about that movie while Other Joe products are still coming out.

Megatron_Wolf wrote:So does this mean that they're not making any more Animated toys? If thats the case this blows. No season 3 figures. I was hoping for a new Rodimus and Cyclonus. Wonder if Soundwaves going to go canceled too? I was actually thinking about getting bumblebee. Looks like hasbro just saved me $20.

Woah, slow down there Hoss. They canceled a repaint and an upgrade; that's all. Let's not jump to conclusions.

Good. They should have never decided to repaint him, anyway. Shame about Bumblebee, though. Not that I was personally interested in him, I thought the idea was silly...just that people love Bumblebee.

You don't think hasbro have finalally realised that pointless repaints don't sell...nah couldn't be.

I'm guessing that new bumblebee will still make an appearance as a deluxe.

I just hope that it doesn't effect TF:A Arcee.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a followup press release saying that the number of voyagers for 2009 is going down (well already we know its down from 8 to 6) by knocking off any repaints. and the may increase the number of deluxes...I think following the movie we're going to find deluxes are the most common level for tfs for a while, They hit the good pricepoint/cost to produce level

I COME FROM THE FUTURE...

Hello, collectors! Remember the Animated line we canceled in 2009 to make room for Return of the Fallen?
Here's 2 figures that just, gosh darn it, never made it to mass release!

Yes, it's Goldfire Grimlock and Hydrodive Bumblebee!
And now, for the low, low, low collector price of $99.99 we can bring them to your door!

...Just like those combiners with the crappy mold that needs updating.

You LOVE us, don't you? DANCE, little monkeys, DANCE!

-Transformers Collectors Club

PS... enough with the emails asking to bring the show back.

Riotflea wrote:I COME FROM THE FUTURE...

Hello, collectors! Remember the Animated line we canceled in 2009 to make room for Return of the Fallen?
Here's 2 figures that just, gosh darn it, never made it to mass release!

Yes, it's Goldfire Grimlock and Hydrodive Bumblebee!
And now, for the low, low, low collector price of $99.99 we can bring them to your door!

...Just like those combiners with the crappy mold that needs updating.

You LOVE us, don't you? DANCE, little monkeys, DANCE!

-Transformers Collectors Club

PS... enough with the emails asking to bring the show back.

HAHAHA, hilarious...sometimes i do feel like that horse chasing after the carrot on the end of the stick

Omega Sentinel wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:

Omega Sentinel wrote:I'm not too disappointed over the cancellation of 2 pointless repaints. Guess the lack of sales for Atomic Lugnut killed this wave.

Hydrodive BB wasn't a repaint. And I was really looking forward to it since I didn't buy the original or the Elite Guard.

As for Atomic Lugnut, the stores in my area are just starting to get him, so I don't know how you can already be drawing conclusions about the sales numbers. Plus, Atomic Lugnut is ten times cooler and more badass than the purple and teal one.

And eventhough the BB came with a different accessory it was still a retool at best and a repaint at worst. I would liken the Bumblebee to Samurai Prowl only the Prowl concept is infinitely cooler and it was actually in the show (and he is not $22).

No it really is a completely new mold. It's as much a new mold as the new movie leader Optimus and voyager Starscream figures are.

Though it may have been difficult convincing people of that since apparently even some fans hadn't noticed.

As a fan of Animated, this is yet another blow. I thought Hydrodive BB was a stupid idea, but it wasn't a bad mold, and I would've gotten it. Why they they came up with this instead of Cybertronian Bumblebee boggles the mind.