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Postby skywarp-2 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:08 pm

Kronos wrote:Thank god mine's coming from the Great White North.



man if I had the time and money i would drive myself across the border to Canadia and get one myself, god bless the Canuck!!
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Postby Autobot032 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:11 pm

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Kronos wrote:Thank god mine's coming from the Great White North.



man if I had the time and money i would drive myself across the border to Canadia and get one myself, god bless the Canuck!!


Try heading back across the border with that one. Could you make it through? Most likely, but on the off chance that you don't...not worth it.

I know you're semi-kidding around, but it worries me...is anyone actually stupid enough to really pull this?

I certainly wouldn't want to be the one who tries...by no means.
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Postby skywarp-2 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:18 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
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Kronos wrote:Thank god mine's coming from the Great White North.



man if I had the time and money i would drive myself across the border to Canadia and get one myself, god bless the Canuck!!


Try heading back across the border with that one. Could you make it through? Most likely, but on the off chance that you don't...not worth it.

I know you're semi-kidding around, but it worries me...is anyone actually stupid enough to really pull this?

I certainly wouldn't want to be the one who tries...by no means.



are you kidding?? Border patrol coming from Canada to the US via driving across the border is sooo easy, they are looking for real guns, drugs and bombs or bombers, if they asked about a toy in a box, which would be odd, you could just open it up and show them the robot, since its being packaged that way, and then move on through the border.. its really that simple.. you know how I know?? My friend bought his reissue Megatron that way, becasue he was soo scared he would get an orange cap on it through the mail order from japan..I just sat on my duff and got mine from ordering online without the orange cap and didn't have to drive to Niagra falls to get it..


Wow i just thought of something, my friend is a freakin transformers fiend!!! Crazy...
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Postby tentagil » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:18 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
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Kronos wrote:Thank god mine's coming from the Great White North.



man if I had the time and money i would drive myself across the border to Canadia and get one myself, god bless the Canuck!!


Try heading back across the border with that one. Could you make it through? Most likely, but on the off chance that you don't...not worth it.

I know you're semi-kidding around, but it worries me...is anyone actually stupid enough to really pull this?

I certainly wouldn't want to be the one who tries...by no means.


Getting it across the border from Canada to the US in Bot mode wouldn't be hard at all, hell you could have it sitting in the passenger seat and I doubt they'd take a second look.
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Postby skywarp-2 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:30 pm

tentagil wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
Kronos wrote:Thank god mine's coming from the Great White North.



man if I had the time and money i would drive myself across the border to Canadia and get one myself, god bless the Canuck!!


Try heading back across the border with that one. Could you make it through? Most likely, but on the off chance that you don't...not worth it.

I know you're semi-kidding around, but it worries me...is anyone actually stupid enough to really pull this?

I certainly wouldn't want to be the one who tries...by no means.


Getting it across the border from Canada to the US in Bot mode wouldn't be hard at all, hell you could have it sitting in the passenger seat and I doubt they'd take a second look.



I agree..
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Postby Ninja Sixshot » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:39 pm

my sister is my only hope of getting here "legally"

legally- buying one in japan and then taking it aboard with her on the plane or in her luggage or having someone send one over to my house by air mail
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Postby Swerve » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:45 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:
Kronos wrote:Thank god mine's coming from the Great White North.



man if I had the time and money i would drive myself across the border to Canadia and get one myself, god bless the Canuck!!


Man, the US/Canadian border security must be really loose. Down around the Texas/Mexico border you can't get back in without a passport. That's right, a freaking passport is required to go to Mexico now!
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Postby Swerve » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:57 pm

Ninja Sixshot wrote:my sister is my only hope of getting here "legally"

legally- buying one in japan and then taking it aboard with her on the plane or in her luggage or having someone send one over to my house by air mail


Taking it on a plane or in luggage? Good luck with that! Seems a pretty risky prospect to me, even in bot mode. They'll want to inspect it when it goes through security.
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Postby CyberTooth » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:57 pm

Well, I honestly wasn't expecting there to come a day where people would be smuggling toys over the border.
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Postby Ninja Sixshot » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:09 pm

i remember this one guy said that he brought collection 6 megs through the security check, and he got through. so why cant i do it...
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Postby Basketball Jones » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:11 am

It's not illegal to own. The damn thing isn't contraband.

One simply cannot resell the toy without an orange tip. If you are in possession of MP-05, it is permissible, but you may not resell him without a large, permanently affixed orange tip.

You can drive back and forth through the border with Megatron sitting on the dashboard and receive nothing other than odd looks.
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Postby Chosen » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:16 am

tmthor wrote:I beleve they can I have seen at toy shows where dealers have had to remove Godzilla stuff from their table because Toho studios made them (They usually get a warning the second time the confiscate with law enforcement) claiming they are protecting thier American licencse holders (Also Ban-dai put on their Godzilla toys "not for sale out of Japan").


Godzilla toys are imported and freely sold in the US on a regular basis, so such a thing strikes me as very, very odd. Especially given Toho's involvement with G-Fest where Godzilla toys are everywhere. I'm thinking you're confusing Godzilla imports with unlicensed figures, which are worlds apart.

Swerve wrote:Man, the US/Canadian border security must be really loose. Down around the Texas/Mexico border you can't get back in without a passport. That's right, a freaking passport is required to go to Mexico now!


Effective... already, I think, passports are now required for any destination outside of US territories, including the British Virgin Islands (not to be confused with the USVI), Mexico, and yes, Canada.
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Postby Maldroth » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:22 am

fully legal to bring them as luggage, though may not be wise as a carry on.

all the toy laws require is that us retailers can only sell toy guns with the orange tip to specification. Buying internationally and shipping in is kinda a grey area so likely retailers based abroad and ebay should not be a large issue.

Many don't want to take the chance so will go with a reliable option.

Honestly isn't going to be as big of a deal as its being made out to be.
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Postby CyberTooth » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:25 am

So I guess what I'm wondering is... will the boxes be marked for Hasbro to know that the figure is tipped? Will they be opening each and everybox?

...Or have they specially trained dogs to sniff out the missing blaze orange? Cause I'd like to meet that dog.
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Postby Ninja Sixshot » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:30 am

no. they use specialized geeks to use their x-ray glasses to see through the shipments
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Postby CyberTooth » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:35 am

Ninja Sixshot wrote:no. they use specialized geeks to use their x-ray glasses to see through the shipments


nice... so basically we make sure the porn shipment hits the docks first, we can slip anything else past them, right?
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Postby Stormrider » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:16 am

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Ninja Sixshot wrote:i remember this one guy said that he brought collection 6 megs through the security check, and he got through. so why cant i do it...


That was me. :D But I was in Japan when that happened.

I was coming back from Thailand and stopped in Tokyo for a day before connecting with my flight to Nagoya.

While I was in Tokyo I stopped by a hobby shop and purchased Megatron. It didn't dawn on me that I was carrying a toy gun through airport security until I had passed through. I was just too excited to have purchased Megatron and simply thought of him as a toy robot. I guess the airport security realized the same thing because it never phased them.
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Postby Fang Wolf » Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:54 am

Autobot032 wrote:I'm so sick and tired of hearing Hasblo, and Hasbro sux, etc.

It's a pathetic sentiment. Grow up.

If it wasn't for Hasbro, we wouldn't be here, and while we may not agree with all of their tactics, we do have to admit that if it wasn't for their bringing the molds here, we wouldn't have TFs.

How quickly people forget what they've done for us, and how much it outweighs the bad.

I hate to treat grown adults like children, but when they act as stupidly selfish as this, it's well deserved.

Apparently each and every one of you believes you're above the law? *BUZZ* WRONG.

Hasbro is following the law, and so should you.
Er, no, Hasbro does blow, post Beast Wars anyway, look at the rarity of end of the line figures for a great example, and ofcourse, Jetfire.

On subject, I bet it's A) They don't want anyone being an idiot with it and blame them for is being realistic and B) Capped one will be an Western release, in japanese packaging, with an inflated price.
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Autobot032 wrote:I'm so sick and tired of hearing Hasblo, and Hasbro sux, etc.

It's a pathetic sentiment. Grow up.

If it wasn't for Hasbro, we wouldn't be here, and while we may not agree with all of their tactics, we do have to admit that if it wasn't for their bringing the molds here, we wouldn't have TFs.

How quickly people forget what they've done for us, and how much it outweighs the bad.

I hate to treat grown adults like children, but when they act as stupidly selfish as this, it's well deserved.

Apparently each and every one of you believes you're above the law? *BUZZ* WRONG.

Hasbro is following the law, and so should you.
Er, no, Hasbro does blow, post Beast Wars anyway, look at the rarity of end of the line figures for a great example, and ofcourse, Jetfire.

On subject, I bet it's A) They don't want anyone being an idiot with it and blame them for is being realistic and B) Capped one will be an Western release, in japanese packaging, with an inflated price.


I don't think Hasbro blows. They put out far more figures than does Takara. The rarity of end of the line figures isn't their fault really, that's a problem with the retailers for under-purchasing the end of the line figures. Jetfire is widely available. Again, this might be a problem with the retailers or with distribution. The stores here in Chicago have plenty of Jetfires which I have seen at many other stores during the past two months. It might have more to do with a problem with stores in your particular area.

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Postby Tigertrack » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:12 am

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So I assume the announcement of the next one will be a Megatron Perfect Edition, or whatever with the rifle attachments...

Passports are not required to Canada yet from the US (Birth certificates and driver's license are though), but in the near future (next year??) they will be, from what I have been reading. Can't say I have made a trip lately, but I am pretty sure there is not passport enforcement YET.

Just buy a capped version and paint it, or whatever...

Since HASBRO owns the rights to the Megatron name, character, and likenesses, I believe they do have the right to stop the 'mass' distribution of one where they do not deem it is okay.

Anyone else think this is for movie hype (joking)??? Even if it is not, it's going to do a nice job of advertising it.
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SuperSaiyajinSasuke wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:I'm so sick and tired of hearing Hasblo, and Hasbro sux, etc.

It's a pathetic sentiment. Grow up.

If it wasn't for Hasbro, we wouldn't be here, and while we may not agree with all of their tactics, we do have to admit that if it wasn't for their bringing the molds here, we wouldn't have TFs.

How quickly people forget what they've done for us, and how much it outweighs the bad.

I hate to treat grown adults like children, but when they act as stupidly selfish as this, it's well deserved.

Apparently each and every one of you believes you're above the law? *BUZZ* WRONG.

Hasbro is following the law, and so should you.
Er, no, Hasbro does blow, post Beast Wars anyway, look at the rarity of end of the line figures for a great example, and ofcourse, Jetfire.

On subject, I bet it's A) They don't want anyone being an idiot with it and blame them for is being realistic and B) Capped one will be an Western release, in japanese packaging, with an inflated price.


I don't think Hasbro blows. They put out far more figures than does Takara. The rarity of end of the line figures isn't their fault really, that's a problem with the retailers for under-purchasing the end of the line figures. Jetfire is widely available. Again, this might be a problem with the retailers or with distribution. The stores here in Chicago have plenty of Jetfires which I have seen at many other stores during the past two months. It might have more to do with a problem with stores in your particular area.

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Hasbro definitely blows over here in the UK, but we all already knew that right? ;)

For those who don't know why:

Take the classics Magnus and Skywarp 2-pac as an example.
US price = $20 IIRC.
UK price has been given as £30 which is about $60.

:?

I rest my case.
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Postby Saber Prime » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:10 am

Guns don't kill people. Guns can't kill people.

I've never heard a single case of a gun killing anyone.

Now the prson HOLDING the gun, that's a different story.
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Postby Maldroth » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:13 am

CyberTooth wrote:So I guess what I'm wondering is... will the boxes be marked for Hasbro to know that the figure is tipped? Will they be opening each and everybox?

...Or have they specially trained dogs to sniff out the missing blaze orange? Cause I'd like to meet that dog.


I'm guessing customs will be tipped off about cases of modded and unmodded but the question is how reliable they will be to catch them.

Single shipments will likely go unmolested.

What I got from the news announcement is that whole cases will be stopped as a us version will be available.
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High Command wrote:Hasbro definitely blows over here in the UK, but we all already knew that right? ;)

For those who don't know why:

Take the classics Magnus and Skywarp 2-pac as an example.
US price = $20 IIRC.
UK price has been given as £30 which is about $60.

:?

I rest my case.


2 days ago when i checked the Woolworths site the Magnus/Skywarp pack was at £14.99. Now its not listed.
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Postby Dagon » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:26 am

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Autobot032 wrote:I'm so sick and tired of hearing Hasblo, and Hasbro sux, etc.

It's a pathetic sentiment. Grow up.

If it wasn't for Hasbro, we wouldn't be here, and while we may not agree with all of their tactics, we do have to admit that if it wasn't for their bringing the molds here, we wouldn't have TFs.

How quickly people forget what they've done for us, and how much it outweighs the bad.

I hate to treat grown adults like children, but when they act as stupidly selfish as this, it's well deserved.

Apparently each and every one of you believes you're above the law? *BUZZ* WRONG.

Hasbro is following the law, and so should you.


While I agree with the general sentiment regarding the anti-Hasbro nonsense, I don't see this as 'following the law'. Not releasing the figure stateside without an affixed blaze-orange cap would be following the law. Hasbro making an effort to prevent importation of product by a secondary company seems more like using the law to flex their muscle.


I'm not going to bad mouth Hasbro, but I had a thought.

You know, I was thinking about the cap issue today. Do you think that Hasbro wants the caps on Masterpiece Megatron so they can deny imported ones and then release the capped ones domestically? Don't know if I'm asking that the right way or not, but considering the number of people it seems order the MAsterpiece series and with the success (?) of Masterpiece Starscream, I thought Hasbro might try to get a slice of that sweet money pie. But who'd buy a modified one when you could order an unmodified one, right? So we have to stop or block the orders in preparation for an eventual US Hasbro release. Megatron isn't an unknown character, and it looks like anticipation for this figure is running real high all over, so it seems like that would make financial sense.
I'm not calling this a conspiracy, by the way.....just marketing.
Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with this issue. A freind of mine says she knows a guy who is ordering unmodified Megatrons so I'm gonna get mine through her which would come through him, so I've ignored cap talk and such. Anyhow this was just a thought I had during the day. Forgive me if it's nonsense.
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