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Re: Titans Return Arcee & Ultra Magnus Titan Master revealed as Hascon exclusive

Postby Rysquad » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:04 am

Kurona wrote:Following the leak of Titans Return cards for a Deluxe Arcee and a Titan Master Ultra Magnus, rumours were abound on how they would be released if at all. Well, the wait's finally over as io9 has revealed they're an exclusive for the upcoming Hascon! Listed specifically as 'early access' at 30$, see the official image and what io9 has to say about them below and tell us what you think in the forums!

UPDATE: It has been brought to this foolish news poster's attention exactly what 'early access' means -- it's highly likely that Arcee and Ultra Magnus are not exclusives at Hascon, but will be there first before being distributed to normal retail afterwards.

io9 wrote:Joining Rex in early access at the con is a new $30 Titans Return figure set for Arcee. Inspired by the retro generation 1 designs, the Deluxe-Class figure includes a “Titan Master” minifigure for Ultra Magnus, which can transform into an alternate heads for other Titans Returns figures:



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Damn. If this and the Optimus Prime power bank were SDCC exclusives, I would have bought more stuff at Comic-Con.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Microraptor » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:15 am

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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:18 am

I like the dual guns on the front.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby DecepticonFinishline » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:28 am

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I'll say what I said on the Daim post.

Maybe they'll keep the exclusives to a minimum.

I know we had gotten REALLY awesome characters from BotCon. But even being a non-attendee trying to get all the exclusives costs you (well, costs me, at least) almost two whole months of income.

Just one exclusive is a little more manageable. Boring. But manageable.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Rysquad » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:32 am

Is there a name for Arcee's Titan Master?
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby YoungPrime » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:40 am

Rysquad wrote:Is there a name for Arcee's Titan Master?

Spikes annoying son?
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby SureShot18 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:47 am

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Kurona wrote:I'll trade anyone my Takara Legends Arcee for this. This one looks so, so, SO much better :D

Totally agreed. This Arcee looks way better than the Generations mold, super G1 Arcee just ends up looking odd to me. Makes me wish Nautica got more retooling.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Desslok2201 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:02 am

Kurona wrote:I'll trade anyone my Takara Legends Arcee for this. This one looks so, so, SO much better :D

Seriously???? I'll keep mine, this is just pink Blurr
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Rysquad » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:03 am

YoungPrime wrote:
Rysquad wrote:Is there a name for Arcee's Titan Master?

Spikes annoying son?


Ah. Leinad the healer.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:18 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I'll trade anyone my Takara Legends Arcee for this. This one looks so, so, SO much better :D

Seriously???? I'll keep mine, this is just pink Blurr


To be fair she kinda looked like that back in G1 as well.


Anyways I'll sell my soul for this.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:20 am

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Do we know if the Ultra Magnus titan master will get a retail release? I don't have any of the titan masters yet, but that Magnus is pretty cool looking.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:21 am

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Oh dear. That looks bad. Can appreciate the retooled parts to attempt to make it look more like Arcee but it just doesn't work for me at all. The Generations figure blows this away even with it's backpack. This is pretty horrible.

Yeah I'll be skipping Blurrcee here thank you.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Desslok2201 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:35 am

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Oh dear. That looks bad. Can appreciate the retooled parts to attempt to make it look more like Arcee but it just doesn't work for me at all. The Generations figure blows this away even with it's backpack. This is pretty horrible.

Yeah I'll be skipping Blurrcee here thank you.

Agree 100%
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:38 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Oh dear. That looks bad. Can appreciate the retooled parts to attempt to make it look more like Arcee but it just doesn't work for me at all. The Generations figure blows this away even with it's backpack. This is pretty horrible.

Yeah I'll be skipping Blurrcee here thank you.

Agree 100%
By the way, Deadput, your soul is worth $30 and includes an extra head!


I should of said my soul for all the Titan return and compatible (like cogman) figures cause that's what I meant.

I did not get the T30 Arcee myself so this is fine to me... I don't like the proportions of the T30 Arcee
and especially the Legends version so this is fine to me.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:46 am

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Just looking at it some more cos wondering what they could have done to improve it... the arms end up far too kibbly. The front kibble things were bad enough on Blurr's forearms (one of the things I least like about the figure) but they look far worse ona a robot form representing a female character more usually depicted as being quite slender and nimble looking. There's no way they could have redesigned the arms completely to have those front bits end up on the shoulders somehow and negate the need for extra shoulder kibble while providing slimmer forearms? Maybe just cheat like the front of the car and had that forearm kibble actually part of the hood rather that connected to the arms at all, that way when she wears the shield on her back like Blurr can, those parts would end up on her back like G1 accurate and not attached to her shoulders like this extra kibble does. They could be attached to the hood by pivots so they could have rotated around so that the headlight bits face up when the shield is on her back. They could have then resculpted the kibble-less forearms to be much rounder and slimmer and just needing to slot under into those parts now connected to the hood.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby nycPrime » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:53 am

Desslok2201 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I'll trade anyone my Takara Legends Arcee for this. This one looks so, so, SO much better :D

Seriously???? I'll keep mine, this is just pink Blurr

I agree. I have the T30 Arcee and I'm thankful I don't need to spend $30+ on this.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:08 pm

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Gen Arcee still looks great stood next to Blurr and not looking anything like Blurr.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Kurona » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:12 pm

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Eh, to me this is just the best Arcee's ever looked outside of TFP. Heck, I think I actually prefer this to TFP Arcee's design. Plus it means it doesn't clash with Chromia! :D

I regretted owning Takara Legends Arcee ever since I bought her, but if it means I have a bargaining chip to get one that looks as good as this, I'm certainly a lot more happy to have her.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:34 pm

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Kurona wrote:Eh, to me this is just the best Arcee's ever looked outside of TFP. Heck, I think I actually prefer this to TFP Arcee's design. Plus it means it doesn't clash with Chromia! :D

I regretted owning Takara Legends Arcee ever since I bought her, but if it means I have a bargaining chip to get one that looks as good as this, I'm certainly a lot more happy to have her.


What's wrong with Legends Arcee in your opinion? (I myself don't like her proportions especially her hips and how shellformery she is and is part of why I like this Arcee since she looks the right amount of feminine without over doing it like most of the Takara Legend gals)

Semi-related but I also don't really care for TFP Arcee myself since to me the show model looks like it cheats too much a lot more then other TFP/RID designs do.


Anyways the colors on this Arcee look amazing and pop out to me and I really like the new molding on the figure she will go with Nautica and Windblade just fine as well as my 1986 movie shelf which is mostly Headmasters anyways (Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr) so only Springer will be a non TR figure.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Kurona » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:46 pm

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I find it impressive and heartwarming that they managed to make a very accurate figure based on the design of the first core female cast member; one that was Cybertronian and wasn't just a one-off.

But then I realise it's kind of a **** design, so no matter how accurate the T30/Legends toy is, it's just not going to end up looking very good. It's... it's a bit like the movie designs to me -- I admire the sheer work and effort that went into it, but it doesn't mean it looks good.
And the Takara colours don't help for me. They ended up making her face look very creepy.

This one's the update I really wanted. Clearly inspired by the original design, but refined and perfected. Strikes a perfect balance, like you said.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Desslok2201 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:55 pm

Kurona wrote:I find it impressive and heartwarming that they managed to make a very accurate figure based on the design of the first core female cast member; one that was Cybertronian and wasn't just a one-off.

But then I realise it's kind of a **** design, so no matter how accurate the T30/Legends toy is, it's just not going to end up looking very good. It's... it's a bit like the movie designs to me -- I admire the sheer work and effort that went into it, but it doesn't mean it looks good.
And the Takara colours don't help for me. They ended up making her face look very creepy.

This one's the update I really wanted. Clearly inspired by the original design, but refined and perfected. Strikes a perfect balance, like you said.

I'm glad that you like it. I guess it just comes down to what aesthetic you're going for in your collection. As I tend to go for G1 screen accuracy whenever possible, I'll keep LG10 until the eventual MP version... sometime in the year 3000
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:58 pm

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Kurona wrote:I find it impressive and heartwarming that they managed to make a very accurate figure based on the design of the first core female cast member; one that was Cybertronian and wasn't just a one-off.

But then I realise it's kind of a **** design, so no matter how accurate the T30/Legends toy is, it's just not going to end up looking very good. It's... it's a bit like the movie designs to me -- I admire the sheer work and effort that went into it, but it doesn't mean it looks good.
And the Takara colours don't help for me. They ended up making her face look very creepy.

This one's the update I really wanted. Clearly inspired by the original design, but refined and perfected. Strikes a perfect balance, like you said.


Yeah I've myself have never really loved the original Arcee design myself since it's so much of a Princess Leia ripoff like a lot of the 1986 movie being a Star wars rip off and just there to be the token female which is a trope I hate since I think the genders in a cast should be balanced or on either extreme so I've more so enjoyed revamped designs like IDW.

Movie designs have never really made into good looking toys (not including off screens) I love most movie designs on the screen where they are more alive then any other Transformer even if most don't have a lot of personality or screen time but they won't ever get toys that do them complete justice bar a few exceptions like ROTF leader Optimus.

I'm buying TLK's Cogman and Nitro and have already bought Barricade but I'm not buying them to represent the movie versions but for them to be in my Generations shelf which is my universe where they do wacky adventures in the kitchen and fight Bionicles and Halo mega bloks and it's a big reason why I don't get upset when the toys don't completely represent the originals much like with non headmasters being turned into headmasters.

I find more things about Takara Legends Arcee to be creepy besides the face...
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby partholon » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:11 pm

ah jaysus not the blurr mold again.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Megatron Wolf » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:12 pm

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Meh just a lazy repaint, and making it a con exclusive is a dick move on hasbros part especially after the generations arcee debacle.
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Re: Hasbro Announces HASCON 2017 - 8-10 September, Rhode Island

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:16 pm

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Megatron Wolf wrote:Meh just a lazy repaint, and making it a con exclusive is a dick move on hasbros part especially after the generations arcee debacle.


It's more then a repaint since it has new tooling and weapons but ok.

Why are repaint lazy now even though many fan favorites are repaints or remolds lie the Seekers?
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