chuckdawg1999 wrote:Let's not forget that after a great first week or so of sales, MP Star Saber ended up being one of the worst-selling Masterpiece figures. There might not be THAT much demand for an ultra-exclusive version of Victory Saber.
With that said I'm contemplating going in on a second one to flip, but with the issues with the Sentinel I expect aftermarket demand to drop on it which makes me concerned about Victory Saber. If that set has some flaw in the design that makes it virtually unusable, I may not be able to flip the extra one even at a loss.
It would be nice if the Razor Crest was released before the backing window on Victory Saber closes so I can see how that does on the aftermarket.
o.supreme wrote:
Also, as Big and Expensive as Unicron was, when it comes to Haslab generral discussion online, he seems to be brought up the least. Correct me if I'm wrong, but while most of Haslabs get a big last minute surge, it seems to be that Unicron limped to the finish, thanks only to an extended backing time.
-Kanrabat- wrote:o.supreme wrote:
Also, as Big and Expensive as Unicron was, when it comes to Haslab generral discussion online, he seems to be brought up the least. Correct me if I'm wrong, but while most of Haslabs get a big last minute surge, it seems to be that Unicron limped to the finish, thanks only to an extended backing time.
What worked against Unicron was it's price. Not everyone can or a willing to back a 600 mother effing YOUESSES DOLLARS toy.
That Saber at 160$? Much, MUCH more manageable.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Mindmaster wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:o.supreme wrote:
Also, as Big and Expensive as Unicron was, when it comes to Haslab generral discussion online, he seems to be brought up the least. Correct me if I'm wrong, but while most of Haslabs get a big last minute surge, it seems to be that Unicron limped to the finish, thanks only to an extended backing time.
What worked against Unicron was it's price. Not everyone can or a willing to back a 600 mother effing YOUESSES DOLLARS toy.
That Saber at 160$? Much, MUCH more manageable.
100% why I didn’t get Unicron. My military pay barely covers my collecting as is, no way I could’ve dropped $600 on a guy almost half my size.
I’m hopeful for Victory Saber with the opening of orders in Japan, I hope it at least makes it to the first tier. Also I read on Twitter that a secret fourth tier is in the works and will include two more full-sized figures. All speculation of course, but if true and is the right characters, I’m sure that’ll make it surge up as well.
o.supreme wrote:Seems like a several of us here didn't get Unicron, including myself, for similar reasons. But Galactus was what? Almost $500? Yet it blew through all 4 of its tiers towards the end, and 10K plus over that.
sol magnus wrote:o.supreme wrote:Seems like a several of us here didn't get Unicron, including myself, for similar reasons. But Galactus was what? Almost $500? Yet it blew through all 4 of its tiers towards the end, and 10K plus over that.
I backed Galactus so I can sell it for a Unicron. How's that for asynchronous thinking?
o.supreme wrote:sol magnus wrote:o.supreme wrote:Seems like a several of us here didn't get Unicron, including myself, for similar reasons. But Galactus was what? Almost $500? Yet it blew through all 4 of its tiers towards the end, and 10K plus over that.
I backed Galactus so I can sell it for a Unicron. How's that for asynchronous thinking?
Adequate Space is still an issue for me, but Wow...I applaud your ingenuity!
sol magnus wrote:Since I don't need a Galactus I can flip it easily to get the money for Unicron. If it's a 'straight swap' I will have paid 479 for Unicron, not 575. I will certainly share my results in about 9 months to a year lol.
o.supreme wrote:sol magnus wrote:Since I don't need a Galactus I can flip it easily to get the money for Unicron. If it's a 'straight swap' I will have paid 479 for Unicron, not 575. I will certainly share my results in about 9 months to a year lol.
I definitely hope it works in your favor. The only possible problem I see is that there will be a little over 32K Galcatus' being produced next to only 11K? *ish Unicron' that were produced . Now if you were willing to settle for one that had been open and on display, but was still in perfect condition, I could see it as a possibility, because someone may want the *new hotness* instead.
-Kanrabat- wrote:What worked against Unicron was it's price. Not everyone can or a willing to back a 600 mother effing YOUESSES DOLLARS toy.
Emerje wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:What worked against Unicron was it's price. Not everyone can or a willing to back a 600 mother effing YOUESSES DOLLARS toy.
Even people that were willing were expected to choose between Unicron and MP-44 Optimus Prime who was coming out the same month payment was originally due. Thinking people could just drop $1,100~ on Transformers in one month was ridiculously shortsighted of them. I did get Unicron, but I used a third party payment plant that allowed me to pay over 12 months. Cost me about $100 more in the end, but $700 over 12 months was far easier to swallow than $600 all at once.
Did the other HasLab crowdfunds get offered world wide the same way the two Transformers ones did?
Emerje
King Kuuga wrote:The Masterpiece line is something we have been told is something Hasbro has basically no involvement in, being almost or completely handled by Takara. With that in mind, when Hasbro was figuring out when to launch their campaign, they may not have thought to check what major release dates were for products outside of their control. That said, definitely someone along the way should have caught that the very expensive Masterpiece figure of the most popular Transformer was going to be released around the same time they would be charging for Unicron if it came out and adjusted accordingly.
Emerje wrote:King Kuuga wrote:The Masterpiece line is something we have been told is something Hasbro has basically no involvement in, being almost or completely handled by Takara. With that in mind, when Hasbro was figuring out when to launch their campaign, they may not have thought to check what major release dates were for products outside of their control. That said, definitely someone along the way should have caught that the very expensive Masterpiece figure of the most popular Transformer was going to be released around the same time they would be charging for Unicron if it came out and adjusted accordingly.
I don't accept that excuse. They sold MP-44 themselves in the west, they knew its release lined up with the end of Unicron's campaign and should have been aware that there was a conflict there. There was no real reason why Unicron couldn't have been started a month or two later, we all know they would have benefited from the extra time to present it properly.
Emerje
o.supreme wrote:Seems like a several of us here didn't get Unicron, including myself, for similar reasons. But Galactus was what? Almost $500? Yet it blew through all 4 of its tiers towards the end, and 10K plus over that.
I mean I'm happy about VS, and I've proudly backed it. I just think some fans are overestimating how much support it will get. I don't expect all the tiers to be met, I'll be shocked even if tier 1 gets met. I hope I'm wrong, but 20K backers seems like a LOT at this point. I just think next to the juggernauts (no pun intended) of Star wars and Marvel, we as Transformers fans kind of forget how small we are in comparison.
Just as an example, there was an interesting debate on the toy industry as a whole this past Sunday between 2 very different YouTube personalities.
The first 30 minutes or so is skipable because one of the debaters had bad internet. But many of the problems of production, distribution etc. were discussed. No answers unfortunately, but it was an interesting watch nonetheless. Haslab was mentioned MANY times however, but I don't know if Transformers as a brand was ever even mentioned Compared to DC, Marvel, and Star Wars. (Also MOTU was mentioned as lot, but mostly because one of the debaters used to work for Mattel)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Victory Saber funded!
Sabrblade wrote:Victory Saber funded!
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Victory Saber funded!
Holy crap, it was at 9600 this morning the last time I checked. A 2000 mid-day boost, nice!
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