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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:53 pm

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Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Bumblevivisector wrote:An appropriate enough gesture. Far and away IDW's best adaptation of TFTM.
...As opposed to other adaptations of TFTM that IDW has done? :???:

Might be referring to the Deviations special
I, personally, wouldn't even dignify calling that an adaptation. More like a reinterpretation or a re-imagining (but done poorly).


Let's just call it what it really is.

A really poopy fan fic

Now now, people can call it whatever they want as long as we all agree that it was terrible. I'm okay with the idea of what ifs but this was just bad.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:45 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Bumblevivisector wrote:An appropriate enough gesture. Far and away IDW's best adaptation of TFTM.
...As opposed to other adaptations of TFTM that IDW has done? :???:

Might be referring to the Deviations special
I, personally, wouldn't even dignify calling that an adaptation. More like a reinterpretation or a re-imagining (but done poorly).


Let's just call it what it really is.

A really poopy fan fic

Now now, people can call it whatever they want as long as we all agree that it was terrible. I'm okay with the idea of what ifs but this was just bad.
Honestly, the idea had merit, but the execution was bad. If given another chance, I think the idea could work if put in the hands of someone with more care and competence to make it work.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblevivisector » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:37 am

Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Bumblevivisector wrote:An appropriate enough gesture. Far and away IDW's best adaptation of TFTM.
...As opposed to other adaptations of TFTM that IDW has done? :???:

Might be referring to the Deviations special
I, personally, wouldn't even dignify calling that an adaptation. More like a reinterpretation or a re-imagining (but done poorly).


Let's just call it what it really is.

A really poopy fan fic

Now now, people can call it whatever they want as long as we all agree that it was terrible. I'm okay with the idea of what ifs but this was just bad.
Honestly, the idea had merit, but the execution was bad. If given another chance, I think the idea could work if put in the hands of someone with more care and competence to make it work.
WOW. We're indeed on the same page, but I didn't think my slight insinuation would get things this negative. I agree completely that said Deviation was awful, but feel the approach was also wrongheaded considering the original Marvel adaptation also showed Hot Rod not interfering, but Megatron shooting Op to death anyway...

But you know what? IDW should do more adaptations of TF:TM. They could start by adapting that old Ron Friedman draft where Unicron was "Ingestor", he made his new 'Cons out of life-sparks, Op's life spark stood in for the Matrix, the Anibots combined into Dragonbeast to fight Devastator, and the Autobots on Junk faked their deaths with what sounded like the Decoys growing to actual size...

...and then the following summer, they could adapt Flint Dille's 'The Secret of Cybertron' script! And maybe that could lead to adaptations of Sunbow episodes including extra stuff from scripts and those extended audio recordings that popped up a few years ago...

...but alas, I'm still almost a decade behind on IDW's old continuity, and haven't really been keeping up with this year's comic offerings. Partly a side effect of saving up for this awesome Unicron.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:45 am

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Bumblevivisector wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Bumblevivisector wrote:An appropriate enough gesture. Far and away IDW's best adaptation of TFTM.
...As opposed to other adaptations of TFTM that IDW has done? :???:

Might be referring to the Deviations special
I, personally, wouldn't even dignify calling that an adaptation. More like a reinterpretation or a re-imagining (but done poorly).


Let's just call it what it really is.

A really poopy fan fic

Now now, people can call it whatever they want as long as we all agree that it was terrible. I'm okay with the idea of what ifs but this was just bad.
Honestly, the idea had merit, but the execution was bad. If given another chance, I think the idea could work if put in the hands of someone with more care and competence to make it work.
WOW. We're indeed on the same page, but I didn't think my slight insinuation would get things this negative. I agree completely that said Deviation was awful, but feel the approach was also wrongheaded considering the original Marvel adaptation also showed Hot Rod not interfering, but Megatron shooting Op to death anyway...

But you know what? IDW should do more adaptations of TF:TM. They could start by adapting that old Ron Friedman draft where Unicron was "Ingestor", he made his new 'Cons out of life-sparks, Op's life spark stood in for the Matrix, the Anibots combined into Dragonbeast to fight Devastator, and the Autobots on Junk faked their deaths with what sounded like the Decoys growing to actual size...

...and then the following summer, they could adapt Flint Dille's 'The Secret of Cybertron' script! And maybe that could lead to adaptations of Sunbow episodes including extra stuff from scripts and those extended audio recordings that popped up a few years ago...

...but alas, I'm still almost a decade behind on IDW's old continuity, and haven't really been keeping up with this year's comic offerings. Partly a side effect of saving up for this awesome Unicron.
There was one really awesome (and at times, hilarious) adaptation of TFTM written lovingly by Jim Sorenson awhile back, titled "Echoes and Fragments". It was mostly text-only, with only a small number of illustrations, but it was a blast.
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Haslab Unicron City Mode Concept Art Revealed

Postby Bounti76 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:10 am

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Thanks to our very own ScottyP, we have a very interesting bit of artwork to share with you. ScottyP was perusing the Transformers Generations 2020 book this evening, which for the unaware, is an annual book released that contains information on upcoming toys. It also includes some interesting concept art. This particular bit shows that the upcoming 2021 War for Cybertron Unicron figure, which was fully crowdfunded in October, had originally been planned to have a third mode, that of a city, which would have made him a triple changer. Also of note, as can be seen in the back of the photo, is the group of TV screens shown in the original animated movie.

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:57 am

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That looks like a mess and a half. Glad they abandoned it,not everything needs a city mode!
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:18 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:That looks like a mess and a half. Glad they abandoned it,not everything needs a city mode!
I really really like the idea of it but yeah, overall that's a bit of a mess. Some fun concepts though that hopefully carry over.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblevivisector » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:22 am

I think this is a case of trying to compensate for the inherent scale issues by introducing a play pattern that would've just made said scale issues even harder to ignore. Vicious circle. I just hope no one breaks their $600 toy trying to get it into this mode if the finished product can't even do it anyway.

Still, if it means they worked his monitor/brain into the final design, then maybe it was worth considering.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Dr. Caelus » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:03 am

It reminds me of the Chaos Marine buildings in Dawn of War. Would have opened up some head canon options, e.g., Unicron's spirit jumping to an ancient temple devoted yo him, and transforming it into a new body. I like the grabber claw over the maw, and would have been interested in seeing this thing next to the upcoming Quintesson figures.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:56 am

ZeroWolf wrote:That looks like a mess and a half. Glad they abandoned it,not everything needs a city mode!


You’re Insane. That thing looks like a cityscape straight out of Hell which is appropriate for who it is. If that was done I woulda gone in and done the crowdfund
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:22 am

That looks less like a city and more like a partially transformed Unicron.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:26 am

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I kinda like the city mode, hopefully if they ever do a titan class Unicron it has the bonus city mode.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:36 am

This is exactly what I was hoping for with a detailed interior. I’m glad they are putting this much thought into it. Hopefully some of these concepts will be retained so that there may be play areas you can expose with the TVs or defenses or acid vat. Really great to see this. I hope they keep it up with the fun reveals to keep us going through the year as we wait.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:42 am

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As dumb as the concept of Unicron having a city mode is, that is probably the coolest city mode I’ve ever seen.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby JasonCanty79 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:56 am

For me, while it is a bit of a mess. It looks like a Cyber-Doom Level. I so can see this
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:59 am

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Guys... That city mode... is like something straight out of the old 3H Universe comics from OTFCC 2003, resembling the hellish landscape of Unicron's interior, right down to Unicron's maw being used as the Pit!

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:23 am

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Man, I'm sad that got canned. That looks really, really cool, as mentioned has very 40K Chaos vibes.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby svalverde » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:58 am

I really like the concept, I really like the "city" mode because seems to me like a judgement pit for Quintessons and all the "city" in very quintesson style with spikes and details everywhere but... I see the entire structure and I just can't stop thinking that looks like a pregnant woman in childbirth :(
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:03 am

Aw man. It also just dawned on me the play value of being able to have the maw eat something, then it come OUT somewhere and continue through his bowels. That's a lot of play value there.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:05 am

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svalverde wrote:I really like the concept, I really like the "city" mode because seems to me like a judgement pit for Quintessons and all the "city" in very quintesson style with spikes and details everywhere but... I see the entire structure and I just can't stop thinking that looks like a pregnant woman in childbirth :(

Well that's an image that's now stuck in my head...

Also remember, these images weren't from Hasbro but the Generations 2020 book that's out in Japan, hence we we have no idea what the text says along with it, as we need someone to translate it.
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Re: Haslab Unicron City Mode Concept Art Revealed

Postby no-one » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:13 am

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Wow, that's really cool looking, but probably best they scrapped the idea. I'm of the mindset to do one thing and do it well.

There is some seriously awesome potential there. The first thing I thought when I saw this was: "that is some seriously metal design!"

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Aimless Misfire » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:31 am

This just goes right along with what I've been saying the whole time. Haslab should have made Metroplex not Unicron. I would have backed Metroplex.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:35 am

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Aimless Misfire wrote:This just goes right along with what I've been saying the whole time. Haslab should have made Metroplex not Unicron. I would have backed Metroplex.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:11 am

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They already made a Unicron (a damn good one too) but that didn't stop them with this, did it? :lol:
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 am

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Black Hat wrote:They already made a Unicron (a damn good one too) but that didn't stop them with this, did it? :lol:
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