Meverix wrote:
...Why is soundwave being compared to Blackout?
Neko wrote:Meverix wrote:
...Why is soundwave being compared to Blackout?
I thought he was being compared to Frenzy...
Meverix wrote:And so long as Jazz has the visor, everyones happy.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Meverix wrote:...Why is soundwave being compared to Blackout?
Shadowman wrote:I wonder why aliens have to look like insects.
Predaprince wrote:Is it just me or does the movie Ironhide's head look like a bull?
Alex Kingdom wrote:Shadowman wrote:I wonder why aliens have to look like insects.
Because H.R Giger says so. Ever since his imaginative anamorphic design for 'Alien' Hollywood have have pretty much taken the 'insect' look as the template for all scary aliens ever since. As happens a lot in Hollywood if something works once they figure it will work a 100 times over. It has very little to do with what looks realistic or suitable for the big screen and a lot to to with playing it safe.
Yours AK
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Alex Kingdom wrote:Shadowman wrote:I wonder why aliens have to look like insects.
Because H.R Giger says so. Ever since his imaginative anamorphic design for 'Alien' Hollywood have have pretty much taken the 'insect' look as the template for all scary aliens ever since. As happens a lot in Hollywood if something works once they figure it will work a 100 times over. It has very little to do with what looks realistic or suitable for the big screen and a lot to to with playing it safe.
Yours AK
See, in deleting the second line of my post, you apparently missed the whole point.
I implied sarcastically that wanting aliens to look human is making a bit of a stretch, as it is very doubtful that any other life in the universe looks like us.
Trans4mers4ever wrote:Shadowman wrote:Alex Kingdom wrote:Shadowman wrote:I wonder why aliens have to look like insects.
Because H.R Giger says so. Ever since his imaginative anamorphic design for 'Alien' Hollywood have have pretty much taken the 'insect' look as the template for all scary aliens ever since. As happens a lot in Hollywood if something works once they figure it will work a 100 times over. It has very little to do with what looks realistic or suitable for the big screen and a lot to to with playing it safe.
Yours AK
See, in deleting the second line of my post, you apparently missed the whole point.
I implied sarcastically that wanting aliens to look human is making a bit of a stretch, as it is very doubtful that any other life in the universe looks like us.
bah, i had a nice long response all typed out, and then i got an error message when i tried to post and lost the whole thing. i don't feel like retyping it, and i've said this to you before (evidently ak isn't the only one who's "missed the point") when you made similar statements, so i'll make this quick:
(1) your argument is a straw man fallacy. it's never been about humanoid or not, it's about recognzable as (insert character) or not. superman's an alien too, and you can't tell me it would be wrong to have a problem with someone making a new movie where he didn't look humanoid.
(2) it's absolutely no more or less realistic for aliens to look insectoid than it is for them to look humanoid. there's no added realism there, it's only a farce.
(3) aside from the heads , they do look more or less humanoid.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Trans4mers4ever wrote:(2) it's absolutely no more or less realistic for aliens to look insectoid than it is for them to look humanoid. there's no added realism there, it's only a farce.
Archibald Witwicky wrote:Trans4mers4ever wrote:(2) it's absolutely no more or less realistic for aliens to look insectoid than it is for them to look humanoid. there's no added realism there, it's only a farce.
Yes, actually, it is. Contrary to Alex's 'It's a hollywood cliche!' argument, aliens = insects is a long running sci-fi tradition, and with good reason.
A) Insects and fish are the most widespread, populous higher level life forms on this planet. There is a far wider variety and multitude of them than humans, birds, lizards, or anything else. Statistically, an alien is more likely to look like them than us.
B) Insects more than any other higher level life form can adapt to incredibly harsh living conditions. Life forms similar to insects would have an increased chance of survival, and therefore evolution, on harsh alien homeworlds. And there are far more of those than there are earth-like planets. For human like life to evolve on another planet, you'd essentially need a planet that matchs earth, both physically and historically, down to tiny detail.
So, sorry, yes. Insectoid aliens DO make far more sense than humanoid aliens. That's not neccisarily a good argument for making transformers look insectoid. But this 'OMG it's a stupid bs cliche' argument is well, a bs cliche.
Shadowman wrote:I've never heard any of this. Perhaps I didn't care.
I'll focus on #2, because #1 and #3 really don't mean much to me.
Do you know what aliens look like? I'm just wondering. Obviously you're the Go-To guy on what aliens should look like, given you know so much about Life Elsewhere.
So they don't look human, and they don't look insectoid. What DO they look like?
Immortal Starscream wrote:actualy, frenzy was origionaly going to be soundwave, not blackout. started as soundwave, then became soundbite, and finaly frenzy.
kjeevah wrote:Meverix wrote:...Why is soundwave being compared to Blackout?
easy, thats who blackout was based on. he was originally called soundwave. hence why he looks like soundwave, has a big sonic cannon thing above his head, and has an animalistic mini-bot (skorponok) on hand ready to pop out of him.
Shadowman wrote:I implied sarcastically that wanting aliens to look human is making a bit of a stretch, as it is very doubtful that any other life in the universe looks like us.
Crimson Dynamo wrote:Predaprince wrote:Is it just me or does the movie Ironhide's head look like a bull?
Yeah, I think they took the "old cowboy" thing literally.
If you squint your eyes it also looks very much like a stetson.
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