leokearon wrote:Wait, the site is trying to warn us that there are Knockoff's about and then they display a review endorsing them?
What kind of message is that sending?
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:leokearon wrote:Wait, the site is trying to warn us that there are Knockoff's about and then they display a review endorsing them?
What kind of message is that sending?
The reviewer is in no way affiliated with Seibertron.com, so it's his opinion and his alone. The site takes no position in the matter, other than buying KO's is at your own risk.
leokearon wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:leokearon wrote:Wait, the site is trying to warn us that there are Knockoff's about and then they display a review endorsing them?
What kind of message is that sending?
The reviewer is in no way affiliated with Seibertron.com, so it's his opinion and his alone. The site takes no position in the matter, other than buying KO's is at your own risk.
Yet it still posts the review on the front page as news... I still think it gives the wrong message
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:leokearon wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:leokearon wrote:Wait, the site is trying to warn us that there are Knockoff's about and then they display a review endorsing them?
What kind of message is that sending?
The reviewer is in no way affiliated with Seibertron.com, so it's his opinion and his alone. The site takes no position in the matter, other than buying KO's is at your own risk.
Yet it still posts the review on the front page as news... I still think it gives the wrong message
It's merely for educational purposes, giving ways to tell the fake from the real deal. First one to do so.
leokearon wrote:Wait, the site is trying to warn us that there are Knockoff's about and then they display a review endorsing them?
What kind of message is that sending?
Counterpunch wrote:B. KO figures are super awesome. Just because you didn't go to BotCon over three years ago, and just because you passed on the open availability of the Henkei seekers doesn't mean that you shouldn't have everything you've ever wanted all the time 100%. Buy buy buy.
Vicalliose wrote:I did recently spend a bunch of money on some KOs... which are all broken now (should've done more reading on those)
It Is Him wrote:Vicalliose wrote:I did recently spend a bunch of money on some KOs... which are all broken now (should've done more reading on those)
Only because I'm curious: Which ones did you buy? High quality ones, or ones on cheapo blister cards?
leokearon wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:leokearon wrote:Wait, the site is trying to warn us that there are Knockoff's about and then they display a review endorsing them?
What kind of message is that sending?
The reviewer is in no way affiliated with Seibertron.com, so it's his opinion and his alone. The site takes no position in the matter, other than buying KO's is at your own risk.
Yet it still posts the review on the front page as news... I still think it gives the wrong message
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
funklizard wrote:Scaleface wrote:Yes, these are "replica" knockoffs. Unlike most knockoffs, which are obviously not official product, these try to look like the original, even have fake packaging.
I'm told there are SMALL differences. Different color inside the cockpit on the jets, blurry printing on the bottom of the box. It's REALLY CLOSE, but if you compare 2 side by side, it's possible to tell.
Not cool.
I hope that someone with the means to create a pictorial comparison of these counterfeits to known legitimate figures does so in the near future. This development is pretty unsettling for someone who recently purchased these figures on eBay (and did not pay knock-off prices).
I do not think legitimate sellers should be trafficking in these items--even when noting they are knock-offs. Once they're out there, it's just too easy for them to be resold as the real thing. I'd like to think that TakaraTomy would take some action in cases like this; unfortunately, I imagine there's very little they can do as it's probably very difficult to track down the actual counterfeiters.
84forever wrote:Sizzle had something to do with this review, huh? Did you PM Mike from KO TOYS several times for his input before ordering? We know how you like to do all this research on a toy before you make a purchase. How you have to find out if a TOY can actually be played with as a TOY before you buy.
This is a guy who believes it's wrong to assume a toy can be actually played with.
This is a guy who spreads Mike from KO TOYS lies like it's gospel, despite the fact that Mike has ripped off many, many, people on this site and others.
Take this review with a grain of salt.
Seibertron wrote:
Seibertron.com is a Transformers fansite. It is not a fansite about 3rd party products. I do NOT care for 3rd party products. I am TIRED of seeing the stuff here on this site. That's all it comes down to.
Rated X wrote:funklizard wrote:Scaleface wrote:Yes, these are "replica" knockoffs. Unlike most knockoffs, which are obviously not official product, these try to look like the original, even have fake packaging.
I'm told there are SMALL differences. Different color inside the cockpit on the jets, blurry printing on the bottom of the box. It's REALLY CLOSE, but if you compare 2 side by side, it's possible to tell.
Not cool.
I hope that someone with the means to create a pictorial comparison of these counterfeits to known legitimate figures does so in the near future. This development is pretty unsettling for someone who recently purchased these figures on eBay (and did not pay knock-off prices).
I do not think legitimate sellers should be trafficking in these items--even when noting they are knock-offs. Once they're out there, it's just too easy for them to be resold as the real thing. I'd like to think that TakaraTomy would take some action in cases like this; unfortunately, I imagine there's very little they can do as it's probably very difficult to track down the actual counterfeiters.
I gotta disagree with you buddy. Whats not cool is the people who made the decision to let the Henkei Thundercracker become a victim of inflation and greed. No matter what politics or business stratagies were behind the decision, alot of people were denied a chance to own a classic mainstream G1 character. This is a chance to spread the love and give collectors of all incomes a chance to enjoy this figure.
I too bought the Henkei Thundercracker and Skywarp for $100 bucks each. But Im not complaining that sombody almost exactly duplicated my figure. I applaud it. Sometimes patience is a virtue. The people who held out are getting rewarded for their patience. But the people like me and you who "had to have it" learned a valueble lesson about patience. If I had known about these guys being available in November, I wouldnt have bought the Henkeis back in June at Botcon. I could care less about a little indent in the shoulder. In reality the figure is going to sit on a display shelf and look cool. I could have had the figures and saved $150 to use for something else. Wish I had known, but life goes on.
84forever wrote:Sizzle had something to do with this review, huh? Did you PM Mike from KO TOYS several times for his input before ordering? We know how you like to do all this research on a toy before you make a purchase. How you have to find out if a TOY can actually be played with as a TOY before you buy.
This is a guy who believes it's wrong to assume a toy can be actually played with.
This is a guy who spreads Mike from KO TOYS lies like it's gospel, despite the fact that Mike has ripped off many, many, people on this site and others.
Take this review with a grain of salt.
G1Sizzle wrote:My review was meant to serve two purposes:
1. To answer the question "Are these KOs high quality or garbage?"
2. To let people know how they can determine whether or not what they have bought or are about to buy is KO.
I am in no way endorsing or condemning the practice of bootlegging. I do buy bootlegs from time to time. I almost have to, because I live in China, and the supply of legit products here is scarce. If someone chooses not to buy KOs or bootlegs, then I would think this review would be helpful to them also. And it's helpful to those who do, because they can make wise decisions about spending their money. Obviously, I already had a legit original. I bought this one as a curiosity.
I do think that these particular bootlegs bear paying special attention to them. This is the first time we're seeing high quality, if not equal quality bootlegs being made of not only modern toys, but high-priced exclusives. These are not just the G1 KOs, which have several distinctions that mark them as fake. These are near perfect duplicates of exclusives that a lot of people are going to be fooled by.
By the way, I have noticed from pictures of the KO Skywarp that the same notching differences in the shoulder and knee exist. So this TC review should also be helpful in distinguishing fake Skywarps too.
0ptimus Prime wrote:Hey G1Sizzle, I too was wondering about the chrome/silver part on the launchers. Is it chrome or is it silver paint? I'm just wondering how it would look in comparison to other Classics/Universe figures rather than the Henkei versions
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