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Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:51 pm
by sto_vo_kor_2000
JohnOfTardis67 wrote:Also on that why is it that all he robots the Allspark created in the movie tended to be on the slightly evil side? How did that distinction of good and evil transformers happen? I'm just going by what we saw in the movies.

I never really saw them as evil, just confused and acting out, like a crying baby.

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:33 pm
by JetOptimus23
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
JohnOfTardis67 wrote:Also on that why is it that all he robots the Allspark created in the movie tended to be on the slightly evil side? How did that distinction of good and evil transformers happen? I'm just going by what we saw in the movies.

I never really saw them as evil, just confused and acting out, like a crying baby.


Yeah. They did that stuff because they were new life and didn't know any better.

Autobot032 wrote:
SirSoundwaveIV wrote:I generally think of the All Spark being something Primus created to continue creating new cybertronian life while he slumbered.


That's...not bad. Yeah, I could get behind that idea. :BOWDOWN:


Indeed. That sounds pretty logical.

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:24 pm
by Shadowman
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
JohnOfTardis67 wrote:Also on that why is it that all he robots the Allspark created in the movie tended to be on the slightly evil side? How did that distinction of good and evil transformers happen? I'm just going by what we saw in the movies.

I never really saw them as evil, just confused and acting out, like a crying baby.


That, and Simmons said that all our technology is reverse engineered from Megatron.

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:06 pm
by JohnOfTardis67
Shadowman wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
JohnOfTardis67 wrote:Also on that why is it that all he robots the Allspark created in the movie tended to be on the slightly evil side? How did that distinction of good and evil transformers happen? I'm just going by what we saw in the movies.

I never really saw them as evil, just confused and acting out, like a crying baby.


That, and Simmons said that all our technology is reverse engineered from Megatron.


What did they pull Megatron apart? Gee smart move putting it back together then. But in the story context it is fascinating to learn all our tech came from Megatron. Would that include microchips? I wonder where they found those inside Megs?

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:05 pm
by dinogeist
Shadowman wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
JohnOfTardis67 wrote:Also on that why is it that all he robots the Allspark created in the movie tended to be on the slightly evil side? How did that distinction of good and evil transformers happen? I'm just going by what we saw in the movies.

I never really saw them as evil, just confused and acting out, like a crying baby.


That, and Simmons said that all our technology is reverse engineered from Megatron.


Perhaps all sparks need a shell program attached to it. that keeps it in-line,in-balance & loyal to whatever faction side that creates it. also to give it some general rules & a comprehensive data base of knowledge.

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:07 am
by Shadowman
JohnOfTardis67 wrote:What did they pull Megatron apart? Gee smart move putting it back together then.


They had no idea it was a psychotic alien warlord.

JohnOfTardis67 wrote:But in the story context it is fascinating to learn all our tech came from Megatron.


It's practically a throwaway line. It could be used to explain why the AllSpark can bring everything to life, (Since it's all basically Cybertronian tech) as well as why the Cybertronians can interface so well with Earth tech. But neither of those are mentioned, and it's never brought up again.

JohnOfTardis67 wrote:Would that include microchips?


Yeah, I think they mentioned that specifically.

JohnOfTardis67 wrote:I wonder where they found those inside Megs?


Well, he's a robot. I'm assuming they found them everywhere.

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:31 pm
by prowl123
They couldn't.

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:05 pm
by Shadowman
prowl123 wrote:They couldn't.


And you base this on what, exactly? A race of sentient machines couldn't create themselves, but once created, like I said, it's all a matter of intelligence and innovation.

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:12 pm
by sto_vo_kor_2000
Shadowman wrote: it's all a matter of intelligence and innovation.

couldnt have said it better myself. :APPLAUSE:

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:07 am
by prowl123
Shadowman wrote:
prowl123 wrote:They couldn't.


And you base this on what, exactly? A race of sentient machines couldn't create themselves, but once created, like I said, it's all a matter of intelligence and innovation.


I thought we were talking about machines like computers, cars, or vacuum cleaners.

I didn't really read the thread.