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How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:13 pm

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While I initially loathed the idea of Megatron becoming an Autobot, I have since really enjoyed Roberts exploring Megatron's character even deeper. I have never once believed, despite all appearances to the contrary, that Megatron is truly an Autobot. He is the leader of the Decepticons, a movement and faction that he created, believes in, and which forever divided the inhabitants of Cybertron. I believe he is in the midst of performing his biggest deception yet, posing as an Autobot by convincing Autobots and Decepticons alike that he has truly changed his ways. Megatron is biding his time. A larger quest or purpose is before him, a mission that required him to deceive everyone to obtain his true goal. What's he after? What is his true goal? How long until we see Megatron shred that Autobot symbol to pieces and wear the badge of the Decepticons proudly once again?

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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby Madeus Prime » Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:53 pm

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I'm excited to see what the future of MTMTE has in store for us. I want to believe that Megatron has changed, but I am still suspicious as to his incredible fear of neurosurgery. Well, we know at the prison he was almost lobotomized, but this is Megatron we're talking about here. When he freaked out at Chromedome and his needles, I wonder if he was covering up his plans.
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby ScottyP » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:13 am

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With Ravage's recent implied treachery, I need to go back to 39 and look for hints that Ravage is feeding info to either the DJD and/or Deathsaurus' gang. Seems to me he could be the thing that's going to end up linking it all together - DJD rounds up Deathsaurus and the Japanese G1 love fest band, Soundwave getting a base established in outer space near-ish to Earth, and Starscream ruling Cybertron and finding these other worlds to take over and having space bridges/combiners.

Essentially, Dark Cybertron got Shockwave, Jhiaxus, Nova Prime, and other meddling "big bads" out of the way, so now Megatron is free to pursue his vision of Pax Cybertronia (Remember, pre-DC RiD already did the "Decepticons ex machina" thing, but it failed for several reasons, Shockwave included). Along the way, he's going to see what this whole "Knights of Cybertron" thing is all about, as it could be advantageous to him. Someone like Star Saber could even be a powerful ally. He's a patient bot, and while he puts his cogs in the wheel, waiting for the right time to make it start turning, he's luring the Autobots into false security waiting on the proper moment to kill them all. I'd have to go find the quote again, but there's a moment in Chaos Theory that's just telling - this is not a nice robot and he would love to kill every Autobot alive.

There are clear obstacles to his plan - Prime's resurgence in importance (and his near deification by inhabitants of other worlds), Galvatron, the Lost Light crew themselves, oh, and that Overlord guy.

Then again, there are hints that this is coming, and this is in a series penned by James Roberts, so we're probably more likely to see Rung go postal sooner than Megatron, only to be shown that we should have realized it was Rung all along.
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby Va'al » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:30 am

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ScottyP wrote: ...only to be shown that we should have realized it was Rung all along.


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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby MrBlack » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:35 pm

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I actually think that Megatron's change is genuine. He's come to realize that his war to protect Cybertronians gradually morphed into a war against Cybertronians, and he seems eager to make amends for the tragedy he set into motion, at least when it comes to his own people. I think the theft of the time case is going to lead to an examination of Megatron's guilt: He has seen that life would be better without him for the universe as a whole, and he may actually be considering finishing the job that Brainstorm set out to do.

That said, for all that Megatron is trying to live by the Autobot ideal, it's obvious he doesn't truly care for non-Cybertronian life. With the revelation that organics are targeting Cybertronian colonies for destruction, we might see the resurgence of Megatron's inherent speciesism. The eventual encounter between the Lost Light and the DJD is obviously going to shake Megatron, and I would not be surprised to see him head in a different direction after that encounter. We may see him leading a renewed Decepticon movement dedicated to protecting Cybertronian life from the threat of organics.

In short, I think his desire to change is genuine, but I think that we will see the old Megatron back sooner or later.
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:29 am

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I also believe his change if heart is genuine though I don't think optimus feeding him that speech to say at his trial is helping matters internally.

I also believe that if mega trim starts a new movement it will be against starscream's new cybertronian empire (that is, if starscream is starscream*).

Realistically, Megatron could become a magneto style character, where he can walk both the path of the villain and the path of the hero as story dictates. So if anything I can see him gathering a select few die hards (his acolytes if you will) and forming a separate band. Yes, there is still loads of story potential there to mine before he puts on the purple crest once again (I actually hope a new character just takes the name on, that way all if this Megatron's character development is safe)

*-I don't know why but I have a desire to see Jihaxus return via Starscream's body, thus representing G2- Jihaxus and the Cybertronian Empire...just leave out the swarm this time
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby MrBlack » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:32 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I also believe his change if heart is genuine though I don't think optimus feeding him that speech to say at his trial is helping matters internally.

I also believe that if mega trim starts a new movement it will be against starscream's new cybertronian empire (that is, if starscream is starscream*).

Realistically, Megatron could become a magneto style character, where he can walk both the path of the villain and the path of the hero as story dictates. So if anything I can see him gathering a select few die hards (his acolytes if you will) and forming a separate band. Yes, there is still loads of story potential there to mine before he puts on the purple crest once again (I actually hope a new character just takes the name on, that way all if this Megatron's character development is safe)

*-I don't know why but I have a desire to see Jihaxus return via Starscream's body, thus representing G2- Jihaxus and the Cybertronian Empire...just leave out the swarm this time

I wouldn't mind seeing Megatron buy into Soundwave's commune idea. That seems like something that would jive with Megatron's philosophy, and allow him to continue to act in a Magneto-type role, as you mentioned.

It's a bit odd that we have two separate continuities exploring the issue of a small, separate Decepticon society (the comics, and the Robots in Disguise cartoon).
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby Cyberstrike » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:48 pm

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Seibertron wrote:While I initially loathed the idea of Megatron becoming an Autobot, I have since really enjoyed Roberts exploring Megatron's character even deeper. I have never once believed, despite all appearances to the contrary, that Megatron is truly an Autobot. He is the leader of the Decepticons, a movement and faction that he created, believes in, and which forever divided the inhabitants of Cybertron. I believe he is in the midst of performing his biggest deception yet, posing as an Autobot by convincing Autobots and Decepticons alike that he has truly changed his ways. Megatron is biding his time. A larger quest or purpose is before him, a mission that required him to deceive everyone to obtain his true goal. What's he after? What is his true goal? How long until we see Megatron shred that Autobot symbol to pieces and wear the badge of the Decepticons proudly once again?

Just my two cents. Would love to hear what the rest of you have to say.


My guess would be #50 of The Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye and/or The Transformers for the next big "everything will change forever!" event to begin and/or end. Either Megatron proves he's now an Autobot for the foreseeable future or he's been playing the Autobots to become a Knight of Cybertron or steals their power (if they have some kind power) and reclaims the leadership of the Decepticons. Or Optimus Prime becomes the leader of the Decepticons.
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby Tigertrack » Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:40 am

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I'm on the side of the 'convinced he's not the same Megatron that he was' and don't see him going back to that bot again. I believe the only way that he goes back to the Decepticons is if there is a very tragic event that undoes what he has been working so hard for. His brain gets scrambled, controlled, taken over by a former-earlier version of himself. I even have a hard time seeing the current Megs as being the guy who sent all the guns/tech to Earth.

This Megatron is not the same straightforward bad guy as before. He's deeper. He's wanted to find a way for Cybertronians to live free from class systems, and regimes, and I do believe as it was mentioned earlier that he saw what the war was doing and decided it was not working. Now that he did not take up arms and necessarily start rounding up Decepticons means to me that he has not fully bought into being an Autobot, I think he wears the badge out of the respect (contrived as it seemed in the story arc) that he has for Bumblebee, and that he wanted to get away from it all. Staying on Cybertron would have meant constant badgering from Starscream which probably would have forced him to action again.

I also think he has seen how Optimus has changed and its effected him. Previously, he tried to effect Optimus, but the growth of Prime into more than just a leader against the Decepticons, who steps away because it's best for all, has seemed to impart the example to Megatron.

I would like to read a copy of Megatron's book. I wonder if we will get one? I think we have had bits before.
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby Va'al » Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:45 am

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We did get this exctract:

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With the new 'reveal' of the DJD waging war against Megatron, I think it's safe to assume that for a while yet we'll keep having him on this side of the fence, though still with some sort of ulterior motive (see: dealings with Ravage and the briefcase. I think. :-?
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:53 am

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I agree completely TT, I'm dreading the universal reset that always looms in comics where we could end up with everything as it was in the beginning.

However,I keep I said in a post further up, I see megatron like magneto from X men, not quite content with being full good but no longer true evil
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby Tigertrack » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:31 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I agree completely TT, I'm dreading the universal reset that always looms in comics where we could end up with everything as it was in the beginning.

However,I keep I said in a post further up, I see megatron like magneto from X men, not quite content with being full good but no longer true evil



I think that's a very good comparison Zero. Magneto has gone through almost the exact same kind of stuff, even going so far as to have his own DJD type with his acolytes, although I'm not sure that's a great comparison, but Magneto did the 180 as well and took over teaching the New Mutants for a time as well-- which is kind of how I see this Lost Light captaincy being--oddly enough.

Alex, I do remember that. I'll read it again though. And Ravage and the case are still there yes, but I'd rather not return to status quo either with Prime vs. Megs.

I am intrigued by what will come from the DJD confronting him. I mean, we can't lose the whole Lost Light again, right? Perhaps he will go with them to spare the crew...and that will be his re-inclusion into the Decepticon ranks as they try to un-Autobot him, or Agent X or whoever reveals himself to save the crew... Since these are more obvious guesses, I absolutely expect neither to be the case.
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:40 am

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Thanks TT, I know it's not a perfect match but it's the only one I could think of that got my meaning across.

I also wonder about the DJD but I think it boils down to Tarn vs Megatron, Tarn acting like the spurned student now trying to prove something to his teacher.

Something like this has a couple of endings, like either or the pair, dying. Megatron going with them and becoming evil again through brainwashing. Or, perhaps the most interesting idea, Tarn will redicate himself to Megatron instead of the decepticon cause thus allowing him to still follow megs regardless of megs path. Can't see this going over well with the other DJD mind... (assuming they survive the battle)
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby Syn_13 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:33 pm

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I think we'll see the answer to this question soon enough. Issue #50 will see the whole DJD vs Megatron thing come to a head, and we're bound to see Megatron's true colours there.

I reckon we'll see Megatron side with neither the Autobots, nor the Decepticons in the end. He'll come to the conclusion that he can never truly be an Autobot, yet at the same time his Decepticon vision was twisted and not what he truly intended. I reckon he will feel regret and remorse over the way he handled things and distance himself from the lot.
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby ClearlySane88 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:58 pm

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I was kinda hoping that Megatron would be turned for good (or at least for a loooong while) and have BW Megatron take over as the Big Bad of the series.
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:56 am

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ClearlySane88 wrote:I was kinda hoping that Megatron would be turned for good (or at least for a loooong while) and have BW Megatron take over as the Big Bad of the series.

A man after my own heart :) Only problem is they haven't introduced him or anyone like him
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby Tigertrack » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:04 am

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Syn_13 wrote:I think we'll see the answer to this question soon enough. Issue #50 will see the whole DJD vs Megatron thing come to a head, and we're bound to see Megatron's true colours there.

I reckon we'll see Megatron side with neither the Autobots, nor the Decepticons in the end. He'll come to the conclusion that he can never truly be an Autobot, yet at the same time his Decepticon vision was twisted and not what he truly intended. I reckon he will feel regret and remorse over the way he handled things and distance himself from the lot.



My feelings to a t! Except, like I said, we have rarely gotten the predictable with Barber, so I feel there is another several possibilities that are there. My students are very fond of 'what ifing' until the sun goes down, so I am assuming there are several 'what if' directions to follow, and it will probably not be the most clear to us with the information that we have.

BW Megatron making some transwarp jump and taking control is a possibility though not as likely.

I'd like to see this secret agent thing come out... Give us Roller from Tarn and go...

The Tarn following Megatron's ideals no matter what is a cool path. But does it follow Megatron's book, because that is what ultimately drives the DJD, right? The updated version is in Tarn's hands right? Did he read it yet?
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Re: How long until "Autobot" Megatron shows his true colors?

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:12 am

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I don't think it said that tarn read the new one as he was just shown the part from his trial (I do think some of what optimus made megs said was necessary but at the same time there was a lot that he shouldn't of made him say)
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