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News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:46 am

pee-pee Magnus please! (not that I'll buy it. If I've not jumped on the proper coloured version I'll not buy that repaint, but yeah I do want to see someone review it)

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:57 am

Autobot Genocide wrote:Keith want's to know which repaint we would like first .

https://www.facebook.com/kfctoys?fref=photo

While I won't be buying either. I think the Diaclone Powered Convoy colors might be in more demand. love the added face plate.

That Shining Ultra Magnus might be a tough sell. Think,KFC should release it in smaller numbers. Noticed that the trailer is not translucent yellow. Looks like its done up in yellow chrome foil. Love the weathering look on the trailer.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:12 am

craggy wrote:pee-pee Magnus please! (not that I'll buy it. If I've not jumped on the proper coloured version I'll not buy that repaint, but yeah I do want to see someone review it)

Golden shower Ultra Magnus :lol:

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:39 am

Autobot Genocide wrote:
craggy wrote:pee-pee Magnus please! (not that I'll buy it. If I've not jumped on the proper coloured version I'll not buy that repaint, but yeah I do want to see someone review it)

Golden shower Ultra Magnus

it's the europeeing edition. :lol:

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:27 am

I don't know how to break the bad news. But everyone needs to seriously visit all the TF forums. Then look at those Robot Kingdom pics of the MP-22 toy. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ges/30022/

:sad:

The bad new is,MP-22 is similar to The KFC Stacks toy. On the MP-22 toy, Their is no truck cab that transforms into a smaller Nine inch robot mode. Similar to the KFC UM toy,The entire huge Vehicle Transforms into the Super robot mode.

:-?

So in essence this MP-22 toy is an all new mold. It does a great mock job of looking like the MP-10 Truck cab sculpt.

I love the way this turned out. I was fearful of all that car carrier armor parts and pieces being thrown on the MP-10 robot mode. :KREMZEEK:

I think the Takara designer is a genius with this MP-22 toy. :-B

Talk about a curve ball. What a surprise. :shock:

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:30 am

Yeah, hate to say it, but unless KFC drops the price, I'll probably go with MP-22 as well. I actually like KFC's feet better (even if they're not accurate), but the price and not-perfectly-accurate truck mode gives the edge to MP-22.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:39 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, hate to say it, but unless KFC drops the price, I'll probably go with MP-22 as well. I actually like KFC's feet better (even if they're not accurate), but the price and not-perfectly-accurate truck mode gives the edge to MP-22.

I like the 1986 Ultra Magnus Character enough. to buy both the KFC UM & MP-22 toy versions.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:14 am

New info on MP-22 (Front Paged) has it looking much closer to Citizen Stack in overall configuration/design. It now appears that there is no internal robot. In looking at the new higher-res pics, I can see parts of the legs as the floor of the trailer. This is a bummer for those who wanted an interior robot...

However, I wonder how Takara was able to make an in-scale alt and robot mode and KFC wasn't.

At any rate, with the price drop on the Takara version, I am sorely tempted to pick MP-22 up. It looks awesome. Stacks looks good, but I have a feeling that once I see paint on the MP prototype, there's going to be no contest. (I don't really collect MPs, but I did jump on BB. I may pick up Grimlock in Movie Packaging. And I do have a couple of MPs already. Darn plastic crack habit!!)

As far as the renders for alternate colors (and I have no idea how anyone could reasonably infer chrome foil versus translucence in a render) I get the Powered Convoy colors. Was the yellow a Diaclone version? I don't remember there being a Diaclone UM. Otherwise the yellow version looks a little like some yellow fire trucks from some of the stations here in Minnesota. Or is it meant to be one of those toys that represents a second and a half in the Movie right before UM exploded?

News Credits: 5 · by **zodconvoy** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:26 am

Agamemnon wrote:However, I wonder how Takara was able to make an in-scale alt and robot mode and KFC wasn't.

Mass shifting. Or just better designers. Takara made everything to fold up so it would be in scale in botmode.

Agamemnon wrote:As far as the renders for alternate colors (and I have no idea how anyone could reasonably infer chrome foil versus translucence in a render) I get the Powered Convoy colors. Was the yellow a Diaclone version? I don't remember there being a Diaclone UM. Otherwise the yellow version looks a little like some yellow fire trucks from some of the stations here in Minnesota. Or is it meant to be one of those toys that represents a second and a half in the Movie right before UM exploded?

TFWiki.net wrote:With a yellow cab and an entirely translucent yellow trailer, Shining Magnus is intended to recall the moment in the The Transformers: The Movie, just before Optimus Prime dies, when the Matrix is passed to Ultra Magnus and he is bathed in its light. Which was... blue. Yeah, we're not sure how that works.

(I still think it looks like an ice sculpture made of frozen pee.)

TFWiki.net wrote:In the early stages of the development of The Transformers: The Movie, promotional footage for the movie was released that depicted Ultra Magnus in the black, red and dark blue color scheme of the original Diaclone Powered Convoy toy

News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:17 pm

zodconvoy wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:However, I wonder how Takara was able to make an in-scale alt and robot mode and KFC wasn't.

Mass shifting. Or just better designers. Takara made everything to fold up so it would be in scale in botmode.

Agamemnon wrote:As far as the renders for alternate colors (and I have no idea how anyone could reasonably infer chrome foil versus translucence in a render) I get the Powered Convoy colors. Was the yellow a Diaclone version? I don't remember there being a Diaclone UM. Otherwise the yellow version looks a little like some yellow fire trucks from some of the stations here in Minnesota. Or is it meant to be one of those toys that represents a second and a half in the Movie right before UM exploded?

TFWiki.net wrote:With a yellow cab and an entirely translucent yellow trailer, Shining Magnus is intended to recall the moment in the The Transformers: The Movie, just before Optimus Prime dies, when the Matrix is passed to Ultra Magnus and he is bathed in its light. Which was... blue. Yeah, we're not sure how that works.

(I still think it looks like an ice sculpture made of frozen pee.)

TFWiki.net wrote:In the early stages of the development of The Transformers: The Movie, promotional footage for the movie was released that depicted Ultra Magnus in the black, red and dark blue color scheme of the original Diaclone Powered Convoy toy

Someone should have told Citizen not to eat the yellow snow.

News Credits: 5 · by **zodconvoy** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:49 pm

Doctor McGrath wrote:
zodconvoy wrote:

(I still think it looks like an ice sculpture made of frozen pee.)

Someone should have told Citizen not to eat the yellow snow.

Worse, KFC is asking us if we'd pay $200 for that yellow snowcone.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:13 pm

I think they're grasping at straws; piss-coloured yellow straws.

News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:25 pm

zodconvoy wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:
zodconvoy wrote:

(I still think it looks like an ice sculpture made of frozen pee.)

Someone should have told Citizen not to eat the yellow snow.

Worse, KFC is asking us if we'd pay $200 for that yellow snowcone.

Wow, that's a question alright. Maybe they are still in the denial stage?

Should have done the classics scale Keith! I'd have thrown money at every repaint you could put out.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:43 pm

Doctor McGrath wrote:Maybe they are still in the denial stage?

yeah. with every pic of MP22 surfacing, this thing is becoming less and less relevant. which sucks since i dont really have anything against it. theres just a better product out there now.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:27 pm

Doctor McGrath wrote:Should have done the classics scale Keith! I'd have thrown money at every repaint you could put out.

This. Would've been a good alternative to Fansproject's City Commander.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:58 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:Should have done the classics scale Keith! I'd have thrown money at every repaint you could put out.

This. Would've been a good alternative to Fansproject's City Commander.

This is what happens when a 3rd party company listens to the fans. He went with the noisiest people instead of the numbers.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:00 pm

Mkall wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:Should have done the classics scale Keith! I'd have thrown money at every repaint you could put out.

This. Would've been a good alternative to Fansproject's City Commander.

This is what happens when a 3rd party company listens to the fans. He went with the noisiest people instead of the numbers.

Were the noisy asking for an MP-sized Ultra Magnus, or Classics sized?

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:30 pm

Mindmaster wrote:Were the noisy asking for an MP-sized Ultra Magnus, or Classics sized?

As I recall, there was a poll on TFW with multiple choices. The choice that won was "Scaled to MP-10 in alt mode" despite the fact that most who decryed that size accurately predicted the behemoth that it would become, but couldn't all agree on another option, thus diluting the poll.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:42 pm

Mkall wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Were the noisy asking for an MP-sized Ultra Magnus, or Classics sized?

As I recall, there was a poll on TFW with multiple choices. The choice that won was "Scaled to MP-10 in alt mode" despite the fact that most who decryed that size accurately predicted the behemoth that it would become, but couldn't all agree on another option, thus diluting the poll.

So there was no option for a Classics-sized figure? Because if there weren't... that was one of the dumbest things that could've ever happened.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:38 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Mkall wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Were the noisy asking for an MP-sized Ultra Magnus, or Classics sized?

As I recall, there was a poll on TFW with multiple choices. The choice that won was "Scaled to MP-10 in alt mode" despite the fact that most who decryed that size accurately predicted the behemoth that it would become, but couldn't all agree on another option, thus diluting the poll.

So there was no option for a Classics-sized figure? Because if there weren't... that was one of the dumbest things that could've ever happened.

Oh there was an option for classics sized all right, it's just that for some reason, people thought that alt-mode MP scale was actually important. Like I said, this is what happens when a company listens to the noisy minority.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:00 pm

Mkall wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Mkall wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Were the noisy asking for an MP-sized Ultra Magnus, or Classics sized?

As I recall, there was a poll on TFW with multiple choices. The choice that won was "Scaled to MP-10 in alt mode" despite the fact that most who decryed that size accurately predicted the behemoth that it would become, but couldn't all agree on another option, thus diluting the poll.

So there was no option for a Classics-sized figure? Because if there weren't... that was one of the dumbest things that could've ever happened.

Oh there was an option for classics sized all right, it's just that for some reason, people thought that alt-mode MP scale was actually important. Like I said, this is what happens when a company listens to the noisy minority.

If their is any blame here,I think,it rest more on Keith and less on the fans. Keith should have done a poll on all the TF Forums not just the TFW forum.

News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:02 am

Mindmaster wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:Should have done the classics scale Keith! I'd have thrown money at every repaint you could put out.

This. Would've been a good alternative to Fansproject's City Commander.

I would have bought it and I still love my City Commander. This done in classics scale would have been a good way to incorporate Magnus or Powered into a classics collection while using the City Commander mold for the other option.

Mkall wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Mkall wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Were the noisy asking for an MP-sized Ultra Magnus, or Classics sized?

As I recall, there was a poll on TFW with multiple choices. The choice that won was "Scaled to MP-10 in alt mode" despite the fact that most who decryed that size accurately predicted the behemoth that it would become, but couldn't all agree on another option, thus diluting the poll.

So there was no option for a Classics-sized figure? Because if there weren't... that was one of the dumbest things that could've ever happened.

Oh there was an option for classics sized all right, it's just that for some reason, people thought that alt-mode MP scale was actually important. Like I said, this is what happens when a company listens to the noisy minority.

Thats a bummer to hear. I wasn't aware of the poll.

by **Gurgintius Maximus** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:56 am

Mkall wrote: Like I said, this is what happens when a company listens to the noisy minority.

American politics in a nutshell

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:26 am

GiveMeSkyfire wrote:
Mkall wrote: Like I said, this is what happens when a company listens to the noisy minority.

American politics in a nutshell

Yeah, I'd we could not bring politics into this, that'd be great. >:oP

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:28 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Mkall wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Mkall wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Were the noisy asking for an MP-sized Ultra Magnus, or Classics sized?

As I recall, there was a poll on TFW with multiple choices. The choice that won was "Scaled to MP-10 in alt mode" despite the fact that most who decryed that size accurately predicted the behemoth that it would become, but couldn't all agree on another option, thus diluting the poll.

So there was no option for a Classics-sized figure? Because if there weren't... that was one of the dumbest things that could've ever happened.

Oh there was an option for classics sized all right, it's just that for some reason, people thought that alt-mode MP scale was actually important. Like I said, this is what happens when a company listens to the noisy minority.

If their is any blame here,I think,it rest more on Keith and less on the fans. Keith should have done a poll on all the TF Forums not just the TFW forum.

It was also on Facebook, the tfw one was done by a member after the FB one came up.
There were only two options
1. Scaled to MP 10's bot-mode with an undersized alt-mode
2. Scaled to MP-10s alt-mode with an oversized bot-mode

They even pointed out that if they go for alt-mode the thing would be larger than MP01, but the idiots didn't care because we're apparently not in this hobby for robots, but for stupid cars and trucks and planes.

And no matter what size, this does not fit into an MP collection, the design is too classics to fit with anything that's supposed to be highly accurate to the '80s incarnation.