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Hmm, I never thought I would hear Optimus Prime say "My bad" but then I hadn't heard anyone say that until about 10 years ago and I think it sounds dumb. He did seem to be basically the same character and Id like to think that he has so much invested in Prime, given who Peter says the inspiration for the character is, that he would have pointed un Prime like things out and had an influence.

People believe that Frank and Peter know what these characters mean to the fans and would hope that they wouldn't tread all over them simply to make a bit of money. They seem to appreciate the impact their work had on people.

Ravage XK wrote:People believe that Frank and Peter know what these characters mean to the fans and would hope that they wouldn't tread all over them simply to make a bit of money. They seem to appreciate the impact their work had on people.

I don't doubt that they understand the impact they've had on people over the years, and I think they've been very humble and appreciative of it.

But I really do think people are giving them more credit in the direction of the characters they're voicing.

As far as i'm concerned, I don't think Cullen has had much input into Movie or TF:Prime Optimus. If he did, he would have stood up and said "Hey come on, this guy is just way too preachy and whiny!"

Can't believe how many people are complaining about Megatron's lack of screen time. Across the trilogy he had far more screen time and dialogue than any other Decepticon. It's natural that the villains are going to be featured less than the heroes, (every movie is like this - compare Darth Vader's screen time in SW to every good guy), and Megs was in the spotlight a hell of a lot more than several of the Autobots, (Ratchet, Sideswipe, Jazz etc...).

And to say he was only whining or getting his ass kicked? He kicked the crap out of Optimus TWICE!

Ravage XK wrote:Hmm, I never thought I would hear Optimus Prime say "My bad" but then I hadn't heard anyone say that until about 10 years ago and I think it sounds dumb. He did seem to be basically the same character and Id like to think that he has so much invested in Prime, given who Peter says the inspiration for the character is, that he would have pointed un Prime like things out and had an influence.

People believe that Frank and Peter know what these characters mean to the fans and would hope that they wouldn't tread all over them simply to make a bit of money. They seem to appreciate the impact their work had on people.

As talented and passionate as you give Peter and Welker credit for, I think you are over estimating any of the voice talents ability to affect these movies. The things we've heard about Bay, I doubt he'd let the most talented of voice actors do anything but read the lines that he has given them.

Look at movie Prime. He has gone down as the most uncharacteristic Prime ins the franchise. I can guarantee you that Peters role in the creation of this Prime was no more involved than Hugo's. It's not about the voice actors and their appreciation of their roles, it is about Bay and his appreciation for this franchise, and while these movies were fine summer action flicks, they were really lousy Transformers stories.

Don't blame him at all, I mean he died in every movie but the second, he really only didn't to anything until the end of them all, and he had almost no dialogue. And he's supposed to be a decepticon leader. And only meeting with bay via Skype? Hugo doesn't care about the role, and neither does Bay, he just wants to blow up Megs like everything else.

I've got nothing more to add. We'll just have to wait and see what tf4 turns out to be.
Good thing we have FOC & Prime in the meantime.

While I suppose it's disappointing to hear that Hugo doesn't particularly care for his turn as Megatron, he did just provide a voice. It's not like he was a live part of the films in the way that any of the human cast was. Could it be possible that he doesn't hold the role in great esteem because he spoke into a microphone a couple of times as opposed to having been in front of the camera?
He's been in a number of films by now that have relied on effects or makeup of what have you to help create his character (the Red Skull, V, Elrond)but had he ever done any voice work prior to these movies? Even then, and I see this has already been brought up, the lack of Megatron dialogue, but I essentially had four or five good lines over the span of three movies (just my opinion). Maybe he didn't find things like saying "Megatron!" up to his personal standard of his work.
Anyway, we've gotten some similar stories from other members of the cast, and it could be entirely possible that they just don't see the films with the same glasses as fans of the movies do. Yeah, I agree that people should be proud to some degree at least of everything they attach their names to, but it's possible that Weaving just doesn't think that voicing Megatron ranks super high on his list.

Dagon wrote:While I suppose it's disappointing to hear that Hugo doesn't particularly care for his turn as Megatron, he did just provide a voice. It's not like he was a live part of the films in the way that any of the human cast was. Could it be possible that he doesn't hold the role in great esteem because he spoke into a microphone a couple of times as opposed to having been in front of the camera?
He's been in a number of films by now that have relied on effects or makeup of what have you to help create his character (the Red Skull, V, Elrond)but had he ever done any voice work prior to these movies? Even then, and I see this has already been brought up, the lack of Megatron dialogue, but I essentially had four or five good lines over the span of three movies (just my opinion). Maybe he didn't find things like saying "Megatron!" up to his personal standard of his work.
Anyway, we've gotten some similar stories from other members of the cast, and it could be entirely possible that they just don't see the films with the same glasses as fans of the movies do. Yeah, I agree that people should be proud to some degree at least of everything they attach their names to, but it's possible that Weaving just doesn't think that voicing Megatron ranks super high on his list.

I agree. Sure there was a lack of a buncha crap on bay and the writers' part, but they are just voice actors, who might not even care about the subject matter (especially when presented with such a lack of soul in the character, story, and whatever else they might have had to read before conducting their work). Just kind of a random tangent, but the next time (if) you watch american dad, and principal louis is speaking, look at your bulkkhead figure. Hearing bulkhead speak such adult dialogue is hilarious

Well, Movie Megs sucked a lot, and he doesn't get enough screen time like Animated Megs.

Still, I hope Michael Butt chooses Welker, because he does deserve a G1/Prime like Megs.

Lord Onixprime wrote:Eh, don't care. I liked Hugo's Megatron, but I don't care if he is not coming back. Honestly, if he was (meaning Megatron was returning) I'd be disappointed. Despite the lackluster final fight in DotM, bringing him back from death again would just make me roll my eyes. Megatron needs to stay dead. Maybe bring in Galvatron as a completely new character.

Agreed...keep Megs dead...Bring in Galvatron or some other ultimate badass bad guy. Find an actor that cares too. Hugo was ok, but I mean...whatever.

Micronautsdeep wrote:

Lord Onixprime wrote:Eh, don't care. I liked Hugo's Megatron, but I don't care if he is not coming back. Honestly, if he was (meaning Megatron was returning) I'd be disappointed. Despite the lackluster final fight in DotM, bringing him back from death again would just make me roll my eyes. Megatron needs to stay dead. Maybe bring in Galvatron as a completely new character.

Agreed...keep Megs dead...Bring in Galvatron or some other ultimate badass bad guy. Find an actor that cares too. Hugo was ok, but I mean...whatever.

Galvatron and Megatron are the same dude.

And we already have someone somethings named Galvatron(s) in the Movie Franchise.

PrymeStriker wrote:Galvatron and Megatron are the same dude.

And we already have someone somethings named Galvatron(s) in the Movie Franchise.

They could still make a "Galvatron (TF4)" who is a non-Megs Galvatron like BWII Galvatron and IDW Galvatron.

Of course he doesn't shive a git about what he did as Megatron. What actor in their right mind would? Bayverse Megatron is a Megaflop. The weakest supposed "leader" of any incarnation. It doesn't even deserve to be called Transformers.

User897 wrote:Of course he doesn't shive a git about what he did as Megatron. What actor in their right mind would?

Peter Cullen?

Umm, as always, Peter Cullen was/is Optimus Prime. Your point? I was talking about the crappy Bay version of Megatron and how all the Bay movie scripts were below Mr. Weaving.

User897 wrote:Umm, as always, Peter Cullen was/is Optimus Prime. Your point? I was talking about the crappy Bay version of Megatron and how all the Bay movie scripts were below Mr. Weaving.

Didn't you ask what actor would care about their role in the Bay movies?

TulioDude wrote:WARNING:Large amount of blind rage detected in this topic.

There sure is. Hugo weaving is one of my favorite actors, but I can totally understand that sitting in a booth for 2 hours wouldn't rank among his greatest roles. But of course there are people that have to twist every little thing into irrational Bay hatred.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Micronautsdeep wrote:

Lord Onixprime wrote:Eh, don't care. I liked Hugo's Megatron, but I don't care if he is not coming back. Honestly, if he was (meaning Megatron was returning) I'd be disappointed. Despite the lackluster final fight in DotM, bringing him back from death again would just make me roll my eyes. Megatron needs to stay dead. Maybe bring in Galvatron as a completely new character.

Agreed...keep Megs dead...Bring in Galvatron or some other ultimate badass bad guy. Find an actor that cares too. Hugo was ok, but I mean...whatever.

Galvatron and Megatron are the same dude.

And we already have someone somethings named Galvatron(s) in the Movie Franchise.

Sort of...Megatron re-created by Unicron. We all know the story, just saying. If they bring back Megs, re-create him as Galvatron or come up with someone we haven't seen yet.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

TulioDude wrote:WARNING:Large amount of blind rage detected in this topic.

There sure is. Hugo weaving is one of my favorite actors, but I can totally understand that sitting in a booth for 2 hours wouldn't rank among his greatest roles. But of course there are people that have to twist every little thing into irrational Bay hatred.

Hugo doesn't want to play red skull again, and as far as I was concerned, that was a pretty boring character in the movie, so theres definitely enough grounds to believe that crappy writing could cause an actor or voice actor to lose any bond with the character, and vice versa with good writing potentially inspiring an actor or voice actor to create a sense of achievemant and connection with that role. But ya, its all pretty much speculation. There just so happens to be a readily possible reason with the crappy writing, so its no surprise people would begin to slander the movies. Hardly irrational when your guess is as good as mine.

That's what I meant, was the script, including the poorly-written Megatron character, was simply something that talented professionals like Weaving would not want to focus on.

I can't hate on the guy for being honest. Even though at first glance he sounds like he's being a dick, he's really not. He did the job he was approached to do, and all things considered did it well. The fault lies with Bay, for not giving enough of a crap about the characters or storyline. What should have been main characters were nothing but extras in a Degrassi episode. All Bay's Megatron required was what Weaving put in.

Looks like Michael Bay didn't appreciate the comments from Hugo Weaving regarding his role in the first Transformers movie trilogy. Bay apparently took to his official website and fired off the comments quoted below. The original posting on MichaelBay.com seems to have been removed, but Collider managed to snag the comments before they were taken down. See what Bay had to say below:

Do you ever get sick of actors that make $15 million a picture, or even $200,000 for voiceover work that took a brisk one hour and 43 minutes to complete, and then complain about their jobs? With all the problems facing our world today, do these grumbling thespians really think people reading the news actually care about trivial complaints that their job wasn’t ‘artistic enough” or “fulfilling enough”? I guess The Hollywood Reporter thinks so.

What happened to people who had integrity, who did a job, got paid for their hard work, and just smiled afterward? Be happy you even have a job – let alone a job that pays you more than 98% of the people in America.

I have a wonderful idea for all those whiners: They can give their “unhappy job money” to a wonderful Elephant Rescue. It’s the David Sheldrick WildlifeTrust in Africa. I will match the funds they donate.

What can I say? Michael Bay, a rich untalented director, poking fun at people who he is just like? I never thought what Mr Weaving said was ungrateful. I do, however, think Michael Bay has no credibility with his words. Considering his idea of finding a talented actress to play his lead is having her wash his car in a bikini.

You know, it's nice that Bay has some class sensitivity here, and some desire to give to a good cause, but his contempt for the idea of (gasp) artistic fulfillment says a lot about what was wrong with all of those movies.