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Postby ctrlFrequency » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:50 am

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Okay, so... About 2 years ago I stopped buying the comics.

Since I fell behind and they released all the crossovers, it became way too much work to figure out how to jump back in, as I stopped right as RID and MTMTE was wrapping up (really bad place to stop, honestly)

I want to jump back in where I left off but I am having a problem figuring out where I should be going.

The last Barber book I read was #57. And I actually read Lost Light 1-6 in the trade last Christmas. I'm going to kind of leave Lost Light for now and catch up on the other half of things... But what came after #57 (it was Titans Return, I guess, but Comixology has it listed with all my RID issues)?

I know this is something that gets asked a lit, sorry! I did try to look at the chronology Va'al has posted... But I think I might be beyond chronology help now :-(
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Re: I think I need some help...

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:45 am

I think you would have a much easier time than most. You know where you left so just go from there. Read Till All are One from the begining then get into the Optimus Prime series and that will land you right smack into the current Unicron story.
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Re: I think I need some help...

Postby ctrlFrequency » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:15 am

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Thanks William :-)

That was what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure what went where anymore. Though I was told months ago the crossovers didn't affect the story.

It seems I have Till All Are One up to #6. I had to really dig yesterday :lol: I'll get #7 and then go from there! Then I can tackle the rest of Lost Light.
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Re: I think I need some help...

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:22 am

ctrlFrequency wrote:Thanks William :-)

That was what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure what went where anymore. Though I was told months ago the crossovers didn't affect the story.

It seems I have Till All Are One up to #6. I had to really dig yesterday :lol: I'll get #7 and then go from there! Then I can tackle the rest of Lost Light.

Yeah, thats why I didnt mention combiner wars. Just ignore it and move on ;) Let us know what you think of TAAO, I loved it.
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Re: I think I need some help...

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:08 pm

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Even though it was a mess, you should still read Combiner Wars at least once, just so you get all parts of the story. Or at least read the Wiki summaries. And yeah, TAAO was pretty good, though I think it could have been better. To me it didn't seem like Sarah Pitre-Durocher took every chance she could, which seems like even more of a disappointment, considering TAAO was cut short. It could have been really something.
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Re: I think I need some help...

Postby ctrlFrequency » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:32 pm

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Hey Roddy!!! :x

I'm pretty sure I read Combiner Wars. Unless I am confusing it with something else.
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Re: I think I need some help...

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:27 am

Motto: "He doesn't have jaundice, that's just how he looks."
Hey yourself! 8-)

And I doubt you can confuse Combiner Wars with something else, it got its own miniseries and TPB, though it was actually a part of the RiD timeline. But as far as disappointment, yeah it ranks up there. There could have been so much more combiner action than what we got. I would also love to see a whole series that deals with an in-depth analysis of what it means to be a combiner on every level, physical, mental and emotional. I was kinda hoping TAAO would do that since it seemed to put the Combaticons in the spotlight, but all we got was some PC fanservice and a half-hearted story of manipulation. That's why I said before that it could have been so much more. Unfortunately IDW doesn't have the writers with enough skills to pull it off.
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Re: I think I need some help...

Postby ScottyP » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:01 am

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Based on other posts of where you were, here's what you need to catch up. First, the simple, TF-centric version, by trade paperback where possible:

  • Revolution
  • Till All Are One vol. 2
  • Revolutionaries vol. 1 (optional)
  • Till All Are One vol. 3 but bookmark it after TAAO 12
  • Optimus Prime vol. 1
  • Optimus Prime vol. 2
  • Revolutionaries vol. 2 (optional, but really good)
  • First Strike (may be branded as "Transformers / G.I. Joe First Strike")
  • Transformers: Salvation (one-shot, "Annual" sized issue)
  • Optimus Prime vol. 3
  • Go back to your bookmark in TAAO vol. 3 and finish it
  • Optimus Prime 2018 Annual (one-shot)
  • Optimus Prime vol. 4 (not out yet as a trade, but this is OP 15-21)
  • Transformers vs Visionaries (or read a summary, imo it's not very good)
  • Requiem of the Wreckers (one-shot, "Annual" sized issue)
  • Now you're caught up to the Unicron series, see towards the end of the lengthy list below for a suggested order


Now for the "literally everything except Lost Light (since you already mentioned that) since ~2 years ago" by individual issue. Probably a few repeats for you, I copy/pasted it. Note that this is not an official reading order, but it should work. Also includes some newly retconned to be "in universe" material and all Hasbro U stuff, just in case!
1 - Pre-Revolution - these occur prior to Infiltration #0 but after Shockwave has initiated Regenesis. Exactly where? That's up to your imagination on the first couple entries.
  1. Rom: Annual
  2. Rom vs Transformers: Shining Armor 1-5
  3. Hearts of Steel mini-series (optional, in my opinion)
  4. Infestation 2 mini-series (also optional, in my opinion. For this and the above, extra/back-matter in Revolutionaries will fill in the gaps!

2 - The Road To Revolution and Titans Return
  1. Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook #1 - "Roadies" opening short
  2. Transformers 50 - 55 ("All Hail Optimus"/Volume 10 TPB)
  3. Till All Are One 1-4 (Volume 1 TPB) - roughly concurrent with "All Hail Optimus"
  4. Micronauts 1-6 (Volume 1 TPB) - could really go anywhere before Revolution, because Time is All Things. I think it gives a satisfying real-life-reading-time gap in between some of the TF stuff going on here, making the transitions less jarring. YMMV
  5. Titans Return One-Shot
  6. Transformers 56-57
  7. More Than Meets The Eye 56-57
  8. First Strike #0 (Not a typo! Not the most satisfying place to read this but if you're looking for chronology, well...)
  9. Revolution #0
  10. M.A.S.K. Revolution - Rough guess with this being ~ a year before Revolution, but it would need to be after Blitzwing's capture.
  11. Rom #11-14 backup story "Tales of the Solstar Order"
  12. Rom #0
  13. Action Man #0-4
  14. Rom #1-4

3 - Revolution
  1. ROM Revolution
  2. Revolution #1
  3. Revolution #2
  4. Micronauts: Revolution
  5. Till All Are One: Revolution
  6. Revolution #3
  7. G.I. Joe: Revolution
  8. Transformers: Revolution
  9. Action Man: Revolution
  10. Revolution #4
  11. Revolution #5
  12. More Than Meets The Eye: Revolution

4 - Reconstruction
A list isn't the best representation here as there are a great deal of things happening more-or-less concurrently. YMMV, this list is what I like and it purposely jumps around to different things just for the sake of it at times.
  1. G.I. Joe #1-4
  2. M.A.S.K. #1-5
  3. Till All Are One #5-8 (Volume 2 TPB)
  4. Micronauts #7-9
  5. Micronauts Annual
  6. Micronauts #10-11
  7. Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook #2 - "Upgrades" opening short
  8. Revolutionaries #1-3 (Issue 1 occurs before Rom #5, Wrath of Karza is after issues 2 and 3)
  9. First Strike #1 backup story "The Origins of Evil, Part One: Redcliffe Club" (Probably. It's all messed up so... this feels good enough. Different contextual clues put this in different places, but it seems to work pretty ok here and it will remind you of some folks existing amidst other things going on.)
  10. M.A.S.K. Annual
  11. First Strike #2 backup story "The Origins of Evil, Part Two: A Game of Chess"
  12. M.A.S.K. #6-7
  13. Till All Are One #9-12
  14. Rom #5-14 - Not including the "Tales of the Solstar Order" story (This could be split up, but I'm not comfortable suggesting you have to for these purposes)
  15. Wrath of Karza #1-5
  16. First Strike #4 backup story "The Origins of Evil, Part Four: Hitting the Big Time"
  17. Revolutionaries #4-6 (issue 4 takes place sometime after Wrath of Karza, issue 6 is sometime after MASK #6)
  18. Optimus Prime #1-8 (Optimus Prime issue 7 is stated to occur roughly a year after the events of Transformers #50-55, "All Hail Optimus")
  19. Transformers Annual (2017)
  20. G.I. Joe #5-9 (I guess, nothing really jumps out as placing it here but it has to go somewhere)
  21. M.A.S.K. #8-10 (It has to go somewhere and I like putting it in before Revolutionaries wraps up.)
  22. Revolutionaries #7-8
  23. Optimus Prime #9-10
  24. First Strike #3 backup story "The Origins of Evil, Part Three: A Little Bit of Mayhem"
  25. First Strike #5 backup story "The Origins of Evil, Part Five: One Unholy Machine"

5 - First Strike
  1. First Strike #1
  2. Optimus Prime First Strike (events occur concurrently with First Strike #1)
  3. Optimus Prime #11 (events occur concurrently with Optimus Prime First Strike)
  4. Micronauts First Strike
  5. Rom First Strike (This and the Micronauts story basically stand alone with little else to do with the First Strike event, so may as well get them out of the way before the really interrelated stuff hits the forefront of the plot.)
  6. First Strike #2
  7. First Strike #3
  8. Optimus Prime #12 (events occur concurrently with First Strike #2-3)
  9. G.I. Joe First Strike
  10. M.A.S.K. First Strike
  11. First Strike #4
  12. Transformers First Strike (events occur concurrently with First Strike #2-4)
  13. First Strike #5
  14. First Strike #6

6 - The Road to Unicron
  1. Rom and the Micronauts 1-5 (kinda just runs parallel to other stories, can really go anywhere within this subset of books)
  2. Transformers: Salvation
  3. Optimus Prime #13-14
  4. Till All Are One Annual
  5. Optimus Prime Annual (this starts before the TAAO annual, but ends after.)
  6. Optimus Prime #15-16
  7. Scarlett's Strike Force #1-3 (#2 references the Ore 13 mine opened up in KY during OP #15)
  8. Optimus Prime #17-21
  9. Transformers vs Visionaries #1-5
  10. Requiem of the Wreckers

7 - End of the Road
  1. Optimus Prime #22 (pages 1-13)
  2. Unicron #0
  3. Optimus Prime #22 (pages 14-20)
  4. "Ad Infinitum" - back up Rom strip published in Unicron #1
  5. Unicron #1-3
  6. "Last Stand" - back up G.I. Joe strip published in Unicron #2
  7. Unicron #4
  8. Optimus Prime #23 (mostly concurrent with Unicron #4)
  9. "Reunion" - back up M.A.S.K. strip published in Unicron #3
  10. "Transition" - back up Micronauts strip published in Unicron #4 (not actually sure where this goes yet, except "after Unicron 1")

Rodimus Prime wrote: I was kinda hoping TAAO would do that since it seemed to put the Combaticons in the spotlight, but all we got was some PC fanservice and a half-hearted story of manipulation. That's why I said before that it could have been so much more. Unfortunately IDW doesn't have the writers with enough skills to pull it off.
This sure is an opinion.

TAAO is fantastic and you should ignore most everything RP says about it here, imo :)
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Re: I think I need some help...

Postby ctrlFrequency » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:04 am

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Thanks Scotty!


ScottyP wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote: I was kinda hoping TAAO would do that since it seemed to put the Combaticons in the spotlight, but all we got was some PC fanservice and a half-hearted story of manipulation. That's why I said before that it could have been so much more. Unfortunately IDW doesn't have the writers with enough skills to pull it off.
This sure is an opinion.

TAAO is fantastic and you should ignore most everything RP says about it here, imo :)


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Re: I think I need some help...

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:49 am

Motto: "He doesn't have jaundice, that's just how he looks."
I was saying that mainly about the story involving the Combaticons, which is the first part of TAAO. Part 2 is actually the conclusion of Titans Return, which is much better, and the final part is a story involving Starscream, Windblade and Vigilem, one of the Titans. I should have been clearer when I made that statement. Overall, TAAO is a positive experience, but the Combaticons' story fell way short of my expectations.
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