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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:07 am

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I'm wondering why they used that cover for the TPB. It doesn't really look connected to the IDW-verse
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:51 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm wondering why they used that cover for the TPB. It doesn't really look connected to the IDW-verse


Looks good on a shelf though!
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:57 am

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Va'al wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm wondering why they used that cover for the TPB. It doesn't really look connected to the IDW-verse

Looks good on a shelf though!

Eh, true. But a cover with the throttlebots or dino/trypticons would have looked good too!
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Full Preview for IDW Optimus Prime #12 #Transformers

Postby Va'al » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:35 am

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Courtesy once more of comics news website Multiversity comics, we have a full preview of the next issue of the ongoing Transformers comic book series from IDW Publishing: Optimus Prime #12. Taking place during the events of the recently concluded First Strike Hasbro franchise crossover, the issue continues to look at the characters left around Optimus himself as he's busy off-planet, as Aileron and the Prime-followers continue their search for Jazz. Check it out below!

Written by John Barber
Illustrated by Andrew Griffith
Colored by Josh Burcham
Lettered by Tom B. Long

With Optimus Prime trapped on Cybertron, the Autobots track down their missing friend, Jazz-and find themselves under fire from humans armed with Cybertronian weapons.

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* While First Strike blows up Cybertron, the Autobots must keep the peace on Earth!


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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:01 am

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Review of IDW Optimus Prime #12 #Transformers

Postby Va'al » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:32 am

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(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
With Optimus Prime trapped on Cybertron, the Autobots track down their missing friend, Jazz—and find themselves under fire from humans armed with Cybertronian weapons!

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Also, biting IDW commentary


Story

This 12th issue brings us to the second part of a shorter arc dealing with everyone but Optimus Prime himself, too busy being patronised by Windblade and Scarlett over in First Strike (rather than Aileron and Pyra Magna on Earth, so same difference really. He deserves it). And so we return to the Prime fanclub that might be, and the search for Jazz.

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and more social commentary


I'll say it: Jazz is one of the better written characters in John Barber's arsenal. He's determined if conflicted, has been present in this universe since the very beginning, and has a long history with pretty much all sides of the war. Even in Aileron's narration, a newcomer to it all, Jazz truly takes the spotlight in the issue.

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I swear that's actually Batman


The colonists part of the central story are extremely fun to follow, but there is some criticism that I'd move against their still fairly by the numbers characterisation, with only spikes of added layers to their individuality. Still, Aileron's control over them and their clashing/collaboration work, and lead to a bigger question about the whole set-up..

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#squad


..did Optimus really need to include Earth in the Council after all? This is still the bigger question floating above the rest, even when trying to avoid it. But if Jazz, Aileron, and a random assortment can manage the 'defense', there was no real need for the theatrical political move of war general Optimus - something Barber asks subtly, and appropriately.

Art

Seeing Andrew Griffith back at work with John Barber is a nice feeling indeed, and brings a sense of familiarity even in this post-Cybertronian war, post-AHO Earthern setting. The designs and work that he brings back to the scenes, including some nifty action sequences, reminds us of how much he set the tone for exRID and Transformers, and it's good to have some of it drop back in here.

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*transforming noises aplenty*


The highlight of the visual side of this issue, and confirming it as the series overall, is Josh Burcham's colourwork - his ability to maintain a visual consistency and coherence even across several artists (four and counting so far) is impressive and inspiring, and does wonders with keeping the book in line with its own newly found aesthetic.

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I just wanted to include this panel


Tom B. Long is easily another element of continuity for the series, and I'm so very glad that lettering is recognised as being an integral part of the book production - the reason for, e.g. the Buzzsaw and Laserbeak moments is making the jokes land by actual, accurate dialogue placement, among everything else. The cover used for the thumbnail is also by Andrew Griffith, with Josh Perez on colours, after all the others have been spotlighted across news stories - you can find them all Database entry for the issue of course, right here.


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

On staff, one of the comments was that Barber's script for the issue has been able to veer enough away from the current events to bring us back to an Earth we might all recognise from pre-AHM times, and it is perhaps a needed anchor for the cast and readership alike, even with all the recent additions. Plus, it adds the whole wave of human reactions to the fray, which may help readers see what the legacy of Transformers actually is on the planet.

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Still social commenting


If some of the beats might appear heavy handed for real-life parallels, the script still allows for subtlety in its dealing with Prime's absence - metaphorically and literally - and how the various characters orbiting his system (Aileron above all, but Jazz and the rest of the crew too) relate to each other and the issues at hand. The story may appear 'uneventful' even in its busyness, but it keeps saying a lot about the new, universal status quo.

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:34 am

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Using the same narrative device (talking heads in mockumentary style) twice just confirms how firmly average OP First Strike was compared to this one. I need to go review that, still.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:06 pm

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My real thoughts got assimilated into the review already so I don't have much else to say here.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:06 am

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So after reading this issue, I'm not sure how much I actually like the direction they are going with Prime. I've followed it, and it was already a little questionable, but after this issue I'm much less confident in this Optimus.

And it basically dates back to Combiner Wars and the immediate aftermath. I really wish they would revisit the whole "what does combining do to the individuals" considering there were a few notable instances and some that showed no effect of the experience, and Prime is the big one to show it. He's more ruthless and much more of a prick. Hell, he told Cosmos he wanted Soundwave to bow to him. He punched Prowl down, killed Galvatron brutally and when he was defeated, the whole line in issue 4 or 5 where he said he is using the people who believe him to be divine, the fact that Cosmos is only listed as an ally of the Autobots instead of being an Autobot, Jazz and Windblade among others no longer want to know him, it all feels a bit much. And I don't really like it too much.

Mopey Prime from RG1 was better in that regard because he wasn't really a prick and there was understanding and he sort of redeemed all that (I've been reading the series lately again, really enjoyed it and still do), but this one... He's a Prime/Prowl thing now that I don't like. And it's not like Sunstreaker, Mirage, or Ironhide show symptoms of having combined, it's only Prime from that experience and Prowl, but only because he did it for longer with different teams. Hell, the only thing that happened to the OP Max guys, Sky Reigns, or Galvas were Sunstreaker and TC are now friends.

Long story short: I don't like the direction Optimus as a character is going at the moment, and things like the titan raising keep him looking like a good guy.

On a different note, when do we think we'll get to Springer, Impactor, and Mayhem again. Springer is loose on Earth with Verity, happily at peace, and Impactor and Mayhem were planning to do some stuff. Considering throttlebots, Trypticon, and Unicron are all on the horizon, do we think Wreckers and Mayhem may get involved again?

And has everyone in this book forgotten about Prowl? I want to hear from him again at some point
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby snavej » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:59 am

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Just think how much more serious the mass shootings would be with 'space guns' all over the US and beyond! :cry: Some examples:

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This issue is all about gun control, after all.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:39 pm

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snavej wrote:Just think how much more serious the mass shootings would be with 'space guns' all over the US and beyond! :cry:

Dude, seriously ... wtf?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:24 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Long story short: I don't like the direction Optimus as a character is going at the moment, and things like the titan raising keep him looking like a good guy.

On a different note, when do we think we'll get to Springer, Impactor, and Mayhem again. Springer is loose on Earth with Verity, happily at peace, and Impactor and Mayhem were planning to do some stuff. Considering throttlebots, Trypticon, and Unicron are all on the horizon, do we think Wreckers and Mayhem may get involved again?

And has everyone in this book forgotten about Prowl? I want to hear from him again at some point
Optimus was a micromanaging war commander, one of his similarities to Megatron as we learn in Chaos Theory. He's also been shown to be more on the side of a conformed, though just, society where enforcement is critical. After "Chaos" and DoOP, dude was tired. Done. Ready to move on. Through one event or mishap or another, he's been put right back in this position of command again, and trying to apply tactics that worked before. The rules have changed now, and he's behind the curve. There's not only too much new for him to process at once, there are voices like the colonists and A3 telling him how great he still is. OP is, to me, completely blind to the growing disdain around him. Phase 2 started with him realizing he was representative of another time, so he left. Now we're finding out the hell that happens when he sticks around, despite his best intentions.

Also, yes, please, the Wreckers/Springer/Prowlspiracy plot is in desparate need of some attention.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:21 pm

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ScottyP wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Long story short: I don't like the direction Optimus as a character is going at the moment, and things like the titan raising keep him looking like a good guy.

On a different note, when do we think we'll get to Springer, Impactor, and Mayhem again. Springer is loose on Earth with Verity, happily at peace, and Impactor and Mayhem were planning to do some stuff. Considering throttlebots, Trypticon, and Unicron are all on the horizon, do we think Wreckers and Mayhem may get involved again?

And has everyone in this book forgotten about Prowl? I want to hear from him again at some point
Optimus was a micromanaging war commander, one of his similarities to Megatron as we learn in Chaos Theory. He's also been shown to be more on the side of a conformed, though just, society where enforcement is critical. After "Chaos" and DoOP, dude was tired. Done. Ready to move on. Through one event or mishap or another, he's been put right back in this position of command again, and trying to apply tactics that worked before. The rules have changed now, and he's behind the curve. There's not only too much new for him to process at once, there are voices like the colonists and A3 telling him how great he still is. OP is, to me, completely blind to the growing disdain around him. Phase 2 started with him realizing he was representative of another time, so he left. Now we're finding out the hell that happens when he sticks around, despite his best intentions.

And by god, do I also love that from a meta perspective. How a refusal to move on and completely rely on the old will land you in a bit of a mess. But also that that's what this franchise keeps doing; it keeps bringing back and relying on Optimus and Bumblebee and yadda yadda. IDW has to keep Optimus Prime in the spotlight because, well, he's Optimus friggin' Prime; so part of me can't help but think this is Barber being a bit cheeky :lol:
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IDW Optimus Prime #13 Preview Is Up!

Postby Tyrannacon » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:42 am

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iTunes has recently posted a preview of the upcoming 13th issue of the Optimus Prime comic coming out November 22nd, 2017. The preview is relatively small, but hopefully it is enough to whet one's appetite and satisfy one's curiosity for the upcoming issue. Here is a bit of information regarding it below along with some choice screen shots shown by iTunes for it.

Description
As the consequences of the First Strike event reverberate, Optimus Prime ventures into the wilderness of Cybertron to search for the first new Cybertronian life to emerge in four million years!

Category: Graphic Novels
Expected Release: 22 November 2017
Publisher: IDW Publishing
Seller: Idea and Design Works, LLC
Print Length: 31 Pages
Language: English


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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:18 am

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Um, wow. I'll be a bit disappointed if Sixshot really was taken down by four Throttlebots, even if he was already hurting from getting stepped on by Metroplex.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Optimutt » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:19 am

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:55 am

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Really caught off guard by how engaging these three pages are. Very excited for upcoming issues, now I'm impatient to read just the rest of this one.

Additionally, let the speculation commence on whether the Botanica mention is a joke or something more. I'll go with "Regen One Retcon" in a scale from "Joke" to "Botanica becomes the main character".
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:02 pm

ScottyP wrote:Really caught off guard by how engaging these three pages are. Very excited for upcoming issues, now I'm impatient to read just the rest of this one.

Additionally, let the speculation commence on whether the Botanica mention is a joke or something more. I'll go with "Regen One Retcon" in a scale from "Joke" to "Botanica becomes the main character".



Or it’s neither and just a reference
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:51 pm

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I'm sad they are saying 2 of the Throttlebots bit it. I thought they would live.

Speaking of which, where is the 6th throttlebot?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:54 pm

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Randomhero wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Really caught off guard by how engaging these three pages are. Very excited for upcoming issues, now I'm impatient to read just the rest of this one.

Additionally, let the speculation commence on whether the Botanica mention is a joke or something more. I'll go with "Regen One Retcon" in a scale from "Joke" to "Botanica becomes the main character".



Or it’s neither and just a reference
I'm giving you a "no fun" on a scale from "literal charisma parasite" to "parties so hard it's guaranteed to be worth the jail time" :-P

Yes though, it probably is just using it for the sake of it. Was hoping that came across but I suppose not.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:24 pm

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Aw man, it's super sad (yet super interesting) that the Throttle Bots don't know that the Autobots basically won the war, especially since there are hundreds if not thousands of other stranded Cybertronians that are in the exact same situation.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Shockwave 8 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:40 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm sad they are saying 2 of the Throttlebots bit it. I thought they would live.

Speaking of which, where is the 6th throttlebot?

Goldbug mentions that "Searchlight keeps watching the skies," and a panel shows him briefly. It was hard for me to pick him out at first too. He is supposed to be the reclusive one, so it makes sense that he would be keeping lookout alone while the others are talking.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:46 am

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I have been putting off this review thinking it was going to be another meh chapter of Optimus Prime... Bit no,

HOLY HANDLEBARS I wanna read a story about THROTTLEBOTS. Way to go, IDW for making a throwaway gimmick team into (potentially) interesting story.

I am excited about where this could go. Especially whwm the Tjrottlebots find outbthe Autobots won amd just didnt come for them.

Even though I am tiring of Disillusionment Prime.
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Full Preview for IDW Optimus Prime #13

Postby Va'al » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:42 am

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Fresh from the folders of IDW Publishing, we have for all of you a full preview of the latest comic in their ongoing Transformers series, dealing with the aftermath of First Strike, and the first of a two-part story featuring the Throttlebots again.. and maybe more.

Check out the full works on Optimus Prime #13 below, and join us again after the book is released on Wednesday for a Seibertron.com review, an inevitable discussion, and more, all in the Energon Pub discussion boards.

Optimus Prime #13
John Barber (w) • Livio Ramondelli (a) • Kei Zama (c)
As the consequences of the First Strike event reverberate, Optimus Prime ventures into the wilderness of Cybertron to search for the first new Cybertronian life to emerge in four million years!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
Optimus Prime deals with the fallout of the First Strike event!
Variant cover by Livio Ramondelli!


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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:17 am

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