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Postby Va'al » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:34 pm

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Via the usual iTunes source, we have a three-page preview for the upcoming issue #9 of IDW Publishing's ongoing Transformers series Optimus Prime! If you missed our review of issue #8, you can find it here, and then check out the opening pages for next month's book below.

THE LIFE OF SIDESWIPE! A Junkion machine finally gives long-injured Sideswipe a new lease on life! But when his brother goes missing, Sideswipe and Arcee return to Cybertron—and nothing will be the same between them ever again.


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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:03 pm

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I'm getting heavy Wheeljack revival vibes from this. I wonder if that's intentional... :-?
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Full Preview of IDW Optimus Prime #9

Postby Va'al » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:35 am

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In other IDW Publishing news, the Optimus Prime ongoing Transformers comic sees its issue #9 released this coming week, and we get to go back to Sideswipe as he gets released of his tank - and more! Check out the full preview below via CBR, and come back to Seibertron.com for a review after the book's release!

THE LIFE OF SIDESWIPE! A Junkion machine finally gives long-injured Sideswipe a new lease on life! But when his brother goes missing, Sideswipe and Arcee return to Cybertron—and nothing will be the same between them ever again.

Don’t miss the Optimus Prime cover by Mondo artist Tom Whalen, part of our Tom Whalen Cover Month!
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:29 am

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I know folks complain about these "filler" issues, but that was one of the best single issues that John Barber has written.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:38 am

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I want to see Barber write a lot more character-focused issues, because if the past three have proven anything, it's that he's really friggin' good at it. It's ironic because MTMTE/LL was considered the character-focused one while ex-RiD/TF/OP was considered the story-focused one... but I'm honestly finding myself liking some of these characters on the same level as if not higher than some of the Lost Lighters. Jazz is certainly fitting in comfortably between Chromedome and Whirl.

I wish we'd gotten more of this during post-Dark Cybertron ex-RiD because the lack of fleshed out characterisation among Prime's crew was probably the biggest problem I had with it; it was a great storyline and there were fantastic characters in Optimus, Prowl, Aileron, Soundwave, Cosmos, Thundercracker etc. but I didn't feel connected to most of what was supposed to be the main protagonists. But now I do. I love Sideswipe, Jetfire and Jazz a hell of a lot more than I used to and Barber deserves any praise he gets for these issues.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:22 am

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MrBlack wrote:I know folks complain about these "filler" issues, but that was one of the best single issues that John Barber has written.


Review incoming, but basically. Yes. That.
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Review of IDW Optimus Prime #9

Postby Va'al » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:41 pm

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THE LIFE OF SIDESWIPE! A Junkion machine finally gives long-injured Sideswipe a new lease on life! But when his brother goes missing, Sideswipe and Arcee return to Cybertron—and nothing will be the same between them ever again.

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Also, Bob!


Story

It's fascinating what we get to read in Transformers comics these days, really. Truly fascinating how we've had so much character development taking over the steady progression of plot for a couple of issues, and how breathers have become such a staple in the major arcs that another 'filler' issue isn't really regarded as such. But it still is. And yes, it fills.

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(Up)side(down)swipe


John Barber has shown a sharp increase (which is probably a lot more steady, but since stepping down from editorial, the writer in him has just leapt streets ahead, for me) in his talent for capturing voices, both through the established techniques like the caption narratives, and newly acquired tricks in recent issues and sidelines.

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Side(lined)swipe


In this case, we mostly see the entire issue through the eyes and voice of Sideswipe, as he is awakened from the stasis he was in for a while now already, and we explore this new world to him - the old world of Cybertron in the new reality - and to some newer readers (if we consider Revolution or OP #1 as their starting point), with some assists from Arcee of course, in one of the best platonic friendships the publisher has to offer right now.

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More like brobots


The framing of story is interesting, insofar as it tries to follow up just briefly on the Jazz-centric events of the previous issue, but then fully delves into this second spotlight in two months. It takes a deep breath - and plunges an unexpected blade into several sparks. Hard.


Art

What Kei Zama achieves in the issue is really quite extraordinary, bringing her heavy lines and inks back to Cybertron, making Sideswipe himself essentially look like his G2 incarnation while still keeping in tune with the continuity in design, and adding her twists to the fairly numerous cast of the issue, and with delightful composition cues from RID #33, too.

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plus dem background characters


Josh Burcham ups the amping on the grittyness in all the right spots too, playing with lighting and saturation to achieve some very Sideswipe action sequences, mixed in with more calm, tranquil palette choices for the other scenes around them, in yet more proof that he and Zama can work wonders in thick ink and grainy layers.

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Yaniger smile!


Tom B. Long also has more work on his hands, with plenty of captions to place around the page, some very good and in fact very subtle fonting work across the book, and carefulness not to cover up lines of dialogue and panel layouts for the overall effect. The cover we're using in the thumbnail is the variant by Casey Coller (EDIT: also on colours!), which best captures the issue's tone by the end too - all other covers can be seen in our database entry right here!

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I have not commented, not one bit, on the ending / resolution / twist of this book. I talk about it now in the vaguest of terms, and only really to preface a couple of misgivings that people might have about the art or even the dialogue - both of which might seem too on the nose or to go in circle a bit in spots. There is a reason for that. Keep reading.

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Keep breathing.


Take your time with this one, as it closes a number of plot points that we probably wouldn't have addressed in any other satisfying way, cleverly employs known techniques to original results, and had some very strong reactions on staff - ranging from anger, to sadness, to adoration. We're warning you, and it still won't be enough.

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:49 pm

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The only anger this issue got from me was when the comic showed... those two. You know who I'm talking about. They're even in the review. *shudder*

Otherwise the score is fully deserved. An excellently well-done issue that proves OP isn't just "that other" IDW Transformers ongoing and is fantastic in its own right.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Targetmaster Kup » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:35 pm

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I hated the revelation of what this whole episode was. Hated it. But it was good storytelling nonetheless.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:42 pm

This issue did not make me sad in the slightest. I finished it and smiled. It was amazing. Best issue of Optimus prime so far. It was a celebration life, not death.

Halfway through I figured it out. Once marissa mentioned wreck-gar was just a head and he wasn't and the whole scene at the warehouse blew over so fast I knew what this was. Not complaining, it was clever and I liked it.

Also I liked skids and Mudflaps cameo. They're characters I've never had a problem with.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:53 pm

Randomhero wrote:This issue did not make me sad in the slightest. I finished it and smiled. It was amazing. Best issue of Optimus prime so far. It was a celebration life, not death.

Also I liked skids and Mudflaps cameo. They're characters I've never had a problem with.


I like your way of thinking there. I started out a little mad because he's always been my favorite Autobot, with Skywarp as my favorite Decepticon and now one is dead and the other is stuck with G I Joe in the IDW-verse. But man, what a very touching and cool way to let him go out.

Plus, now maybe he'll get an updated toy, hell maybe even in wave 6 of TR. TR seems to love putting out dead bots from the IDW-verse (Galvatron, Astrotrain, Ravage, Hardhead, Quake, Topspin, Twintwist, Sky Shadow, Flywheels, anyone else?).
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:55 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:This issue did not make me sad in the slightest. I finished it and smiled. It was amazing. Best issue of Optimus prime so far. It was a celebration life, not death.

Also I liked skids and Mudflaps cameo. They're characters I've never had a problem with.


I like your way of thinking there. I started out a little mad because he's always been my favorite Autobot, with Skywarp as my favorite Decepticon and now one is dead and the other is stuck with G I Joe in the IDW-verse. But man, what a very touching and cool way to let him go out.

Plus, now maybe he'll get an updated toy, hell maybe even in wave 6 of TR. TR seems to love putting out dead bots from the IDW-verse (Galvatron, Astrotrain, Ravage, Hardhead, Quake, Topspin, Twintwist, Sky Shadow, Flywheels, anyone else?).

Thunderwing! He even started that trend in Generations 2012 before it was cool! :lol:
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Sigma Magnus » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:58 pm

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Kurona wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:This issue did not make me sad in the slightest. I finished it and smiled. It was amazing. Best issue of Optimus prime so far. It was a celebration life, not death.

Also I liked skids and Mudflaps cameo. They're characters I've never had a problem with.


I like your way of thinking there. I started out a little mad because he's always been my favorite Autobot, with Skywarp as my favorite Decepticon and now one is dead and the other is stuck with G I Joe in the IDW-verse. But man, what a very touching and cool way to let him go out.

Plus, now maybe he'll get an updated toy, hell maybe even in wave 6 of TR. TR seems to love putting out dead bots from the IDW-verse (Galvatron, Astrotrain, Ravage, Hardhead, Quake, Topspin, Twintwist, Sky Shadow, Flywheels, anyone else?).

Thunderwing! He even started that trend in Generations 2012 before it was cool! :lol:

Triggerhappy, off the top of my head. Too lazy to go looking. :lol:
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:04 pm

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Sigma Magnus wrote:
Kurona wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:This issue did not make me sad in the slightest. I finished it and smiled. It was amazing. Best issue of Optimus prime so far. It was a celebration life, not death.

Also I liked skids and Mudflaps cameo. They're characters I've never had a problem with.


I like your way of thinking there. I started out a little mad because he's always been my favorite Autobot, with Skywarp as my favorite Decepticon and now one is dead and the other is stuck with G I Joe in the IDW-verse. But man, what a very touching and cool way to let him go out.

Plus, now maybe he'll get an updated toy, hell maybe even in wave 6 of TR. TR seems to love putting out dead bots from the IDW-verse (Galvatron, Astrotrain, Ravage, Hardhead, Quake, Topspin, Twintwist, Sky Shadow, Flywheels, anyone else?).

Thunderwing! He even started that trend in Generations 2012 before it was cool! :lol:

Triggerhappy, off the top of my head. Too lazy to go looking. :lol:

Scourge as well! Sentinel Prime died in the TR comic tie-in -- though he died in that, uh, body-was-never-found-I-totally-won't-return comic book villain way.

Then there's Horri-Bull, Nightbeat died before he wasn't dead, Wilder's technically in Titans Return because he's the same as Fangry...

... man, this is depressing.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:34 pm

Did I mention that I hate this art.......

As much whining as I hear about LL's art at least it's legible. But whatever, still haven't read ep. #6 and probably won't bother with this one either.

Revert back to Cybertron....To h3ll with these humans!
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Tigertrack » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:36 pm

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Excellent review of an emotional issue. I was one who went through a gamut of emotions. I was angry because I was hoping for the miracle, it was set up as such, and in having my own expectations be thrown back at me in such an extreme manner... Sideswipe's always been a favorite. Mostly because of his alt mode and somewhat brash, but fun attitude, and his interactions with his brother which I could relate too.

Well executed writing and art. I think Optimus Prime has been my most looked forward to reading each month. It's been really well done. I'm converted. I've always been the reader who wanted less to no humans in my comics to finally evolve Transformers fiction to a higher, more enjoyable level. I didn't think it was possible to include humans and for us to reach the level of story that we're at here. I've been proven wrong and it's awesome!

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:51 pm

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Snare was the first thing that tipped me off to "this isn't really happening" because John Barber wouldn't let a Predator jet in as a background character. They're too famous as being Decepticon cannon fodder in LSotW!
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Tigertrack » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:39 pm

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ScottyP wrote:Snare was the first thing that tipped me off to "this isn't really happening" because John Barber wouldn't let a Predator jet in as a background character. They're too famous as being Decepticon cannon fodder in LSotW!



I didn't catch him. Was too wrapped in seeing Lazer Rods! Good catch. Much like the Wreckgar has a body and not just a head. I saw that to start and went, 'huh?', but read in thinking if they could repair the cool McGuffey, they could certainly give him a new body. Where's Ratchet, First Aid, Velocity, or Pharma when you need them?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Microraptor » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:41 pm

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ScottyP wrote:Snare was the first thing that tipped me off to "this isn't really happening" because John Barber wouldn't let a Predator jet in as a background character. They're too famous as being Decepticon cannon fodder in LSotW!


Didn't Snare die in that anyways?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Targetmaster Kup » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:55 pm

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:02 am

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YoungPrime wrote:Did I mention that I hate this art.......

As much whining as I hear about LL's art at least it's legible. But whatever, still haven't read ep. #6 and probably won't bother with this one either.

Revert back to Cybertron....To h3ll with these humans!


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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Windsweeper » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:37 am

In the pic with RID Fixit and the Movie twins, is that Prime Arcee?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

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Agreed with so many of these points. Sideswipe is my 2nd favorite behind Trailbreaker (dangit, top 2 dead...) and it made me sad and smile. The ending was amazing, and I agree that this is the best issue of Transformers recently, and maybe ever for Barber.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:57 am

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Windsweeper wrote:In the pic with RID Fixit and the Movie twins, is that Prime Arcee?


I'm not sure who you're referring to specifically, but I can confirm Prime Arcee is not in that panel!
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Variant Covers for IDW Optimus Prime #10, by Andrew Griffith & Andrew MacLean

Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:51 am

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Courtesy of Previews World, we have some variant covers for the upcoming Optimus Prime #10 from IDW Publishing, as we stave off First Strike just a little longer - and we return to Alpha Trion, but also Galvatron the Barbarian, and the early days of the Primes! Variants are by Andrew Griffith and Andrew MacLean

(W) John Barber (A) Kei Zama, Livio Ramondelli (CA) Andrew Griffith
THE RETURN OF GALVATRON THE BARBARIAN! When Optimus Prime of Alpha Trion, the ancient sage reveals a tale of Cybertron's earliest days, when the original Thirteen Primes united the world. Optimus Prime meets with Alpha Trion, the ancient sage, who reveals a tale of Cybertron's earliest days, when the original Thirteen Primes united the world.

Bullet points:
* Leads directly into this month's First Strike event!


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(W) John Barber (A) Kei Zama, Livio Ramondelli (CA) Andrew MacLean
THE RETURN OF GALVATRON THE BARBARIAN! When Optimus Prime of Alpha Trion, the ancient sage reveals a tale of Cybertron's earliest days, when the original Thirteen Primes united the world. Optimus Prime meets with Alpha Trion, the ancient sage, who reveals a tale of Cybertron's earliest days, when the original Thirteen Primes united the world.

Bullet points:
* Leads directly into this month's First Strike event!


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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #348 - Uno
Twincast / Podcast #348:
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