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[Va'al]

Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Nik Hero, and via Newsarama, we have the full preview for next week's flashback heavy issue of Optimus Prime from IDW Publishing! Check it all out below, and beware of some fairly significant story spoilers for Galvatron, and some of the other characters that immediately show up.

Optimus Prime #10
John Barber (w) • Livio Ramondelli & Kei Zama (a) • Kei Zama (c)
THE RETURN OF GALVATRON THE BARBARIAN! Optimus Prime meets with Alpha Trion, the ancient sage, who reveals a tale of Cybertron's earliest days, when the original Thirteen Primes united the world. But even then, the warrior known as Galvatron was a wild card... shaping the future in unexpected ways.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
· Leads directly into this month’s First Strike event!
· Variant cover by Andrew MacLean!

[Randomhero]

Well there's arcee and Galvatron before the first war. I forgot she mentioned in the last issue she had a brother and he died because she stood there and watch THEM kill him. It's a really cool take on both of them.

[Tigertrack]

Well there's arcee and Galvatron before the first war. I forgot she mentioned in the last issue she had a brother and he died because she stood there and watch THEM killed him. It's a really cool take on both of them.

Yeah that was cool, and there's an interesting piece of history to be revealed and built up. Who knew. #spoilers

[ricemazter]

Well there's arcee and Galvatron before the first war. I forgot she mentioned in the last issue she had a brother and he died because she stood there and watch THEM killed him. It's a really cool take on both of them.

Yeah that was cool, and there's an interesting piece of history to be revealed and built up. Who knew. #spoilers

Wait, who's who in this preview? I'm confused.

[BumbleDouche]

Well there's arcee and Galvatron before the first war. I forgot she mentioned in the last issue she had a brother and he died because she stood there and watch THEM killed him. It's a really cool take on both of them.

Yeah that was cool, and there's an interesting piece of history to be revealed and built up. Who knew. #spoilers

Wait, who's who in this preview? I'm confused.

Yeah, tell me about it... Livio's craptastic art strikes again!

[KingofVIZ]

I think the big guy is Megatronus

[Randomhero]

The brothers are Galvatron and Arcee and the big dude with the firey arms is Megatronus of the thirteen. Even I don't like Livio but I can tell and it's not that bad in this issue.

[Kurona]

Yeah, Livio's come a long way since Chaos. Not an artstyle I enjoy, but it's at the point where it's fine now imo.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

"Septimus Prime..." Goodness, they really need some better Prime names, even if he is a fake prime.

But this looks to be really cool. Arcee and Galvatron. Huh.

[ScottyP]

This gon' be good

[Tigertrack]

Yeah, Livio's come a long way since Chaos. Not an artstyle I enjoy, but it's at the point where it's fine now imo.

He has, and I don't enjoy it as much either, but he does do great work, I just think most of his great work is in other franchises, but I appreciate that he has a style and look all his own, he embraces it, and does well with it.

[ebonyleopard]

The brothers are Galvatron and Arcee and the big dude with the firey arms is Megatronus of the thirteen. Even I don't like Livio but I can tell and it's not that bad in this issue.

What makes you say it's Arcee, though I guess I could be thanks to Mark's spotlight story this version was a male bit at some point so Arcee in the comics is a Trans-Transformer.

[ebonyleopard]

Yeah, Livio's come a long way since Chaos. Not an artstyle I enjoy, but it's at the point where it's fine now imo.

He has, and I don't enjoy it as much either, but he does do great work, I just think most of his great work is in other franchises, but I appreciate that he has a style and look all his own, he embraces it, and does well with it.

The styli itself is fine but he still needs to spend time keeping characters on some semblance of model and recognizability. You shouldn't need to guess or TFWiki look up who you are looking at in an issue. Especially when he tries to add cameos.

[Tigertrack]

The brothers are Galvatron and Arcee and the big dude with the firey arms is Megatronus of the thirteen. Even I don't like Livio but I can tell and it's not that bad in this issue.

What makes you say it's Arcee, though I guess I could be thanks to Mark's spotlight story this version was a male bit at some point so Arcee in the comics is a Trans-Transformer.

The one Galvatron has an axe, the other carries two swords. One of the alternate covers shows Galvatron and Arcee, and as mentioned before by RH, Arcee has said recently that she has a brother killed before her eyes.

The issue will provide more 'solid' evidence, as well...

[Deadput]

It's blantly obvious at this point that Arcee is the brother of Galvatron unless they pull off another Tarn "what a twist" (Goddamn it Roberts)


Is Livio like 10 dollars to hire or something? (Wouldn't be surprised with how cheap IDW is and their treatment of Alex Milne)

He can be great at making covers but when he has to make a bunch of pages in the actual book his flaws show big time.

A comic book could have the greatest plot in man kind and I still wouldn't read it if it had horrendous art.

[Randomhero]

It's blantly obvious at this point that Arcee is the brother of Galvatron unless they pull off another Tarn "what a twist" (Goddamn it Roberts).

Except thats wasn't really much of a twist when you go back a realize there were about half a dozen clues of Tarn's identity. Some people even figured it out about 2 years before Dying of The Light but were quickly told "NO ITS ROLLER BECAUSE COOL!!"

[Randomhero]

The brothers are Galvatron and Arcee and the big dude with the firey arms is Megatronus of the thirteen. Even I don't like Livio but I can tell and it's not that bad in this issue.

What makes you say it's Arcee, though I guess I could be thanks to Mark's spotlight story this version was a male bit at some point so Arcee in the comics is a Trans-Transformer.

Because one is wielding swords the other an axe. Arcee has also been drawn in very similar poses with her swords and throughout the second season of RID/TF there's an obvious kinship between the two. Arcee threatened to kill Galvatron many times but never really went through with it and by the end of TF and through out Optimus Prime she has shown some deep emotions for the death of Galvatron.

She knew Galvatron was her brother but the question is why didn't Galvatron? At first I thought John is retconning this but like I said there's hints of something between the two for the passed three years and it's John. He makes long term plans

[BombshellDaBug]

The brothers are Galvatron and Arcee and the big dude with the firey arms is Megatronus of the thirteen. Even I don't like Livio but I can tell and it's not that bad in this issue.

What makes you say it's Arcee, though I guess I could be thanks to Mark's spotlight story this version was a male bit at some point so Arcee in the comics is a Trans-Transformer.

The one Galvatron has an axe, the other carries two swords. One of the alternate covers shows Galvatron and Arcee, and as mentioned before by RH, Arcee has said recently that she has a brother killed before her eyes.

The issue will provide more 'solid' evidence, as well...

You have to admit, the evidence for it being Arcee is a lot stronger than for it not being her. I didn't even notice the sword-wielding until you mentioned it.

In any case, this issue will be great setup for Power of the Primes. I'm looking forward to seeing Onyx Prime and more of Liege Maximo.

[KingofVIZ]

Has anybody notice notice Megatronus's pose is a little bit like this pic

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/or ... gatron.png

[ricemazter]

It's blantly obvious at this point that Arcee is the brother of Galvatron unless they pull off another Tarn "what a twist" (Goddamn it Roberts)


Is Livio like 10 dollars to hire or something? (Wouldn't be surprised with how cheap IDW is and their treatment of Alex Milne)

He can be great at making covers but when he has to make a bunch of pages in the actual book his flaws show big time.

A comic book could have the greatest plot in man kind and I still wouldn't read it if it had horrendous art.

What do you mean about their treatment of Milne?

[Randomhero]

It's blantly obvious at this point that Arcee is the brother of Galvatron unless they pull off another Tarn "what a twist" (Goddamn it Roberts)


Is Livio like 10 dollars to hire or something? (Wouldn't be surprised with how cheap IDW is and their treatment of Alex Milne)

He can be great at making covers but when he has to make a bunch of pages in the actual book his flaws show big time.

A comic book could have the greatest plot in man kind and I still wouldn't read it if it had horrendous art.

What do you mean about their treatment of Milne?

It probably means somebody thinks Alex Milne was "let go" from drawing main transformers books and doesn't bother ever listening to the artist's they love. There's never been a full blown reason why Milne isn't on lost light. He was suppose to trade off story arcs with Jack but it never happened. When news came out about the change in artists Milne made the remark he didn't even know but was fine and blamed himself for him being unreliable to make deadlines. He openly admits he couldn't keep up on a monthly book.

[Randomhero]

It's blantly obvious at this point that Arcee is the brother of Galvatron unless they pull off another Tarn "what a twist" (Goddamn it Roberts)


Is Livio like 10 dollars to hire or something? (Wouldn't be surprised with how cheap IDW is and their treatment of Alex Milne)

He can be great at making covers but when he has to make a bunch of pages in the actual book his flaws show big time.

A comic book could have the greatest plot in man kind and I still wouldn't read it if it had horrendous art.

Livio gets work because he has a great relationship with the IDW staff and he's reliable and came make deadlines. While I'm not a fan of his work I will commend him on his passion. Plenty of artists and writers run with their tails between their legs for getting $#+% on by fandoms and never come back, Livio actually tries and has improved his art with every issue.

And I know there's plenty that will always say "I'll take a delayed book with better art over this" well this is a company and they need reliable artists to make the deadlines to keep it up.

Also IDW isn't cheap. They pay their people quite well and also have to pay for the licenses they have. Hasbro isn't giving them all their IP, they have to pay for them.

Back in 2005 Dreamwave owed Hasbro $500,000 in licensing fees alone for less than year so you can imagine 12 years later what IDW has to pay. Cheap? Not even.

[Shot Put]

She knew Galvatron was her brother but the question is why didn't Galvatron? At first I thought John is retconning this but like I said there's hints of something between the two for the passed three years and it's John. He makes long term plans

Who says he didn't know? All of their interactions were pretty chummy, as though they already both knew each other, and Galvatron did have that line about "brotherhood" back in #42 of exRiD...

[Deadput]

Also IDW isn't cheap. They pay their people quiet well and also have to pay for the licenses they have. Hasbro isn't giving them all their IP, they have to pay for them.

Back in 2005 Dreamwave owed Hasbro $500,000 in licensing fees alone for less than year so you can imagine 12 years later what IDW has to pay. Cheap? Not even.

Maybe they should drop some licenses instead of raising the risks of becoming bankrupt.

Instead of having (simplify) 100 mediocre comics maybe have 20-30 really good ones, that way IDW gets to cheap out less and actually maybe pay off any debts.

[Va'al]

Also IDW isn't cheap. They pay their people quiet well and also have to pay for the licenses they have. Hasbro isn't giving them all their IP, they have to pay for them.

Back in 2005 Dreamwave owed Hasbro $500,000 in licensing fees alone for less than year so you can imagine 12 years later what IDW has to pay. Cheap? Not even.

Maybe they should drop some licenses instead of raising the risks of becoming bankrupt.

Instead of having (simplify) 100 mediocre comics maybe have 20-30 really good ones, that way IDW gets to cheap out less and actually maybe pay off any debts.

That's... not how it works.