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iTunes Preview for IDW Transformers Optimus Prime #22

Postby Va'al » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:07 am

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We have three more previews of IDW Publishing Transformers comics, coming from both the publisher themselves and regular outlet iTunes for the one included below to begin with - a three page preview for the ongoing series Optimus Prime and its issue #22, as we lead towards the Unicron event already starting in its own mini-series.

Check out the three mirrored pages below, featuring art by Sara Pitre-Durocher, and prepare for the full issue out soon.

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END OF THE ROAD! Trapped between Shockwave’s attack and Unicron’s onslaught, Optimus and the Autobots struggle to make sense of what’s left of their world. Shockwave reveals ancient truths—as an old friend tries to reconnect with Cybertron.


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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:15 am

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Is it me or does bee look even shorter there?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:43 am

It’s available at IDW too
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:56 pm

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Cover Art and Process for IDW Transformers Optimus Prime #23 by Kei Zama & Josh Burcham

Postby Va'al » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:37 am

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Courtesy of both IDW Publishing's website and artist Kei Zama on Twitter, we have the full cover reveal for Cover A of the upcoming Optimus Prime #23 issue of the ongoing Transformers comics series, which features, as you can see below, the Junkion rulers Rum-Maj and Wreck-Gar, along with background Sharkticons.

Also included below, thanks to Zama, are the lineart for the cover, the initial sketches and pencils, and a reminder of the concept designs for both Junkion leaders. Check it all out!

The battle against Unicron forces Optimus Prime’s colonist soldiers to contend with a brutal reality—they have no homes to return to. But when they make a move against Trypticon, the human-controlled home of the next generation of Cybertronians… can the end be far behind?


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Full Preview for IDW Transformers Optimus Prime #22

Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:40 am

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The first of our full previews for upcoming IDW Publishing Transformers comics this Tuesday comes in the form of Optimus Prime #22, running to catch up to the Unicron event in the overall scheduling, and sort of sliding in both before and just after the first issues of that mini-series.

Check it out below, and head back for a review here on Seibertron.com once the book is released!

Optimus Prime #22—Cover A: Kei Zama
John Barber (w) • Sara Pitre-Durocher (a) • Kei Zama (c)
END OF THE ROAD! Trapped between Shockwave’s attack and Unicron’s onslaught, Optimus and the Autobots struggle to make sense of what’s left of their world. Shockwave reveals ancient truths—as an old friend tries to reconnect with Cybertron.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Optimus Prime #22—Cover B: Sara Pitre-Durocher
John Barber (w) • Sara Pitre-Durocher (a & c)
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

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Variant cover by Kei Zama!


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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:40 am

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Poor cliffjumper, he never gets a break.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:01 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Poor cliffjumper, he never gets a break.


Yeah besides the occasional background cameo Cliff sure was forgotten by idw after the death of op issue.

Sigh I remember spotlight Cliffjumper which makes me all the sadder.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:27 am

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Although..
Wasn't he one of the ones who died in the movie?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:55 am

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Nope, he survived with Jazz, Bumblebee and Spike.
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Review of IDW Transformers Optimus Prime #22

Postby Va'al » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:32 am

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...fallen?
(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
END OF THE ROAD! Trapped between Shockwave’s attack and Unicron’s onslaught, Optimus and the Autobots struggle to make sense of what’s left of their world. Shockwave reveals ancient truths—as an old friend tries to reconnect with Cybertron.


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just, generally


Story
The Falling is over, now comes the fallout. As we pick up the pieces of what took place during the latest story arc in the Optimus Prime ongoing, we also finally connect to the story continuing over in the mini-series that is the Unicron event finale - even with the lateness and repercussions that this has, more so than previously in this book specifically.

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err.. surprise?


Other than the return of both Optimus Prime and Bumblebee, with the former's troubled and questioning ethical and personal issues about how the entire universe may be right in not being that happy with him or Cybertron after all, both being utterly spoiled by now by the Unicron book, there are some interesting aspects of returning characters and intersecting universes that work well in the issue.

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In particular, we get to see how Rom is involved in the situation at hand (before the events of Unicron #0), along with many of the other characters previously seen in the Hasbro Universe and still/back on Earth since they were last shown in the series in recent months. And, for someone who mildly enjoyed the titular series, there was some stand out, emotional beats that entirely justify the inclusion in the story.

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There are other peaks in terms of how the extremely large cast is being placed in relation with one another. Pyra Magna in particular leans even further into her role, as played pretty much against every major Cybertronian - something that will continue in Unicron - Bumblebee being used as exposition in the best way possible, and Optimus pretty much just taking it all in for the whole book, his silence actually quite tangible.


Art

Sara Pitre Durocher is the sole artist on the issue this time, and her work on the eyes of the characters (as well as what seems to be thicker inks, to me) is what stands out in particular on the page. From the very opening of Optimus' awakening, running through several close-ups, the layouts bring us closer and closer in to the story and how it's affecting the characters

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I am still impressed by how much of the series' tone has been given by the tonalities that Josh Burcham brings to his colours, which mark it as its own unique thing even when different artists are concerned, and this issue is no exception to that. With the multiple different settings and scenarios, the lighting strikes just right, and some on staff didn't even realise the artist had changed again!

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cold


As for the lettering from Tom B. Long, we only have a couple of particularly visible elements of font work, but the script is one of those exceptions to Barber's style which don't take captions to tell the story, and rather rely on dialogue - meaning that the job may not be as striking, but the careful laying out of the speech bubbles is meticulously done, and precisely on point.

In terms of covers, you can find all three in full size in our database entry, but the Pitre-Durocher one in the thumbnail in particular highlights my point about this book's character focus, while the Zama/Burcham main variant dwells on the story.

Thoughts
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What initially seemed to be mostly exposition, as I pointed out above with Bumblebee, and as is partially also true with Shockwave, is also deployed by Barber really quite effectively as it sets in motion a number of cogs that the book itself remarks upon, though quite subtly, and it's probably the most intriguing hook from an issue that would otherwise be utterly flattened by knowing the general conclusion - and which may be the sole biggest fault of the book.

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*curses against scheduling*


On the other, very positive hand, it was a pleasure to see how Rom and other Hasbro Universe characters and storylines are being brought in finally without it feeling like a strain. Dinobots, Jazz, the Council and Marissa, Trypticon, the colonists on Earth - all pieces being set up for the next in the game, which OP's removal from the conversation actually shows how much his presence can be a hindrance to their development. (That sentence itself may have foreshadowing hues on what is left of this story.)

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:30 am

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Good review, and I love that artwork there of Shockwave talking about Eurakris and Antila. I just can't fathom how the scheduling got this messed up.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:42 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Good review, and I love that artwork there of Shockwave talking about Eurakris and Antila. I just can't fathom how the scheduling got this messed up.


Thanks!

Admittedly, this was more as a big picture weird scheduling. It's not something to do with things being too late or missed releases, it just happens to work weird leading into the Unicron stuff (which was bound to come out for FCBD from the start, from what I know).
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:58 am

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Va'al wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Good review, and I love that artwork there of Shockwave talking about Eurakris and Antila. I just can't fathom how the scheduling got this messed up.


Thanks!

Admittedly, this was more as a big picture weird scheduling. It's not something to do with things being too late or missed releases, it just happens to work weird leading into the Unicron stuff (which was bound to come out for FCBD from the start, from what I know).

I see, I have to wonder when they were sat planning this out, if this was the best worst approach. Given what they wanted to cover in Unicron 0#, they must have resigned themselves to certain events loosing impact.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Ms. Trebuchette » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:20 pm

Everything being sort of spoiled was totally worth it for that one panel where that one character was doing the most important thing EVER with her right arm.

*swoon*
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby AlphaBass » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:39 pm

I'm....actually kinda happy I'm annoyed at Optimus. That's some really good writing there.

Didn't think I'd side with Pyra, but.....yep.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:18 pm

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AlphaBass wrote:I'm....actually kinda happy I'm annoyed at Optimus. That's some really good writing there.

Didn't think I'd side with Pyra, but.....yep.


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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Ms. Trebuchette » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:22 pm

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AlphaBass wrote:I'm....actually kinda happy I'm annoyed at Optimus. That's some really good writing there.

Didn't think I'd side with Pyra, but.....yep.


Pyra Was Always Right.


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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:03 pm

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Though I would ask what prime was supposed to have done instead...seems to me like no option would have spared then this fate.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:39 pm

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At this point, I just don't like Slide. Let's get that part over with.

At least they are finally bringing back Prowl.

Also wondering how Jazz will fit into the finale.

And finally, ROM and Prime together like that, with ROM sitting on his shoulder, is great. My favorite part.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby AlphaBass » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:10 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Though I would ask what prime was supposed to have done instead...seems to me like no option would have spared then this fate.

True, but there's a difference between telling folks "Yeah, this is hopeless, but I'm gonna try my plan and if it doesn't work, we'll bridge folks back to Cybertron as a backup" and "Yeah, this is hopeless, y'all are toast anyway, so my plan involves your toasted-ness so I could have a clear shot at what Unicron is".

It's no wonder Pyra was plotting to overthrow him.

It also make's Pyra's almost-sacrificial comment of "Tell Optimus this is all his fault" ring that much more true.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:20 am

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But they rescued everyone on caminus regardless, they need an opportunity to get into unicron to see what made him tic and only way they could do that is while he was munching on a planet.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby AlphaBass » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:59 am

ZeroWolf wrote:But they rescued everyone on caminus regardless, they need an opportunity to get into unicron to see what made him tic and only way they could do that is while he was munching on a planet.

The problem isn't with the result - Caminus was gone, either way.

The problem is with the approach. Windblade herself railed about how this isn't Caminus' fault. So you go from a relatively peaceful colony to being drug into Cybertronians' issues, to being told by a guy who uses your beliefs against you, ever so slightly, that "Oh btw, I'm gonna sacrifice your planet in the name of the greater good". It's good that they saved everyone, but it's the greater issues at play.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:04 am

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I can see that but I think the blame is still coming too hard considering that ultimately, this is definitely a "sins of the fathers"-type affair .
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:27 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I can see that but I think the blame is still coming too hard considering that ultimately, this is definitely a "sins of the fathers"-type affair .


OP does not have the best track record for 'let's wait and see where he goes with this' admittedly.
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