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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:54 am

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I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:56 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For those keeping track, with issue 15 having come out this past month (February) and the recent Solicitations showing that issue 18 is set to come in May, this means Lost Light will be running till December, when issue 25 will be coming out.


:lol: That's a nice assumption, thinking IDW will be able to keep to its infamously bad scheduling.



They’re already back in schedule and it’s not just IDWs fault. MTMTE got delayed quite a bit sometimes and Milne took full responsibility. When he found out he wasn’t on LL he fully admitted he couldn’t keep up. A lot of the times it is the artist or the writer.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:02 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.

Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:32 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.

Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?


No it’s because he just does. That’s been a statement by people for years now that Roberts writes like he’s writing a TV show. The two part about charisma aliens? That’s straight out of Red Dwarf. Some(not me) even accused him of ripping off red dwarf and other British shows. Swearth is a straight up episode of a show. Tailgate and Cyclonus are literally hanging out in the “friends” apartment. There’s numerous jokes and references to Community too.

Roberts himself refers to post dark Cybertron to dying of the light as Season Two and LL as season three. No one does that with comics.

He’s always treated his comics as if they’re TV shows and that’s kind of always been a big problem I’ve had with his writing because those are two very different medias. Sometimes it works and other times it just fails like cutting back and forth between Rung and Functionist Rung both explaining and discovering their purpose at the same time. That’s how TV works not comics.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:34 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.


I’m gonna call it now and say LL will have nothing to do with unicron. 19-25 will be Rodomus, getaway and the scavengers with maybe Fort Max and Red Alert all coming together to Cyberutpia and concluding that story.

I think we’ll go back to one comic. I think we need to at this point but with both John and James. Like Dark Cybertron. John does story and James does the characters. It’s their strengths. Death of Optimus Prime is one the best comics we’ve gotten and it’s beciase it played on both their strengths
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:35 pm

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Interesting and cautiously optimistic news that LL will be going through #25. I assume then that OP will go through (by the same token) to issue #26. If they both end in December 2018 culminating in the end of the Unicron event I'll be satisfied. January 2019 would be a nice even place to start again, unlike the summer/fall of 2016 when they abruptly ended MTMTE & TF (and cut what could have been a really cool Titans Return story way short...) to start the whole mess that is the Hasbroverse.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:11 pm

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Randomhero wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.

Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?


No it’s because he just does. That’s been a statement by people for years now that Roberts writes like he’s writing a TV show. The two part about charisma aliens? That’s straight out of Red Dwarf. Some(not me) even accused him of ripping off red dwarf and other British shows. Swearth is a straight up episode of a show. Tailgate and Cyclonus are literally hanging out in the “friends” apartment. There’s numerous jokes and references to Community too.

Roberts himself refers to post dark Cybertron to dying of the light as Season Two and LL as season three. No one does that with comics.

He’s always treated his comics as if they’re TV shows and that’s kind of always been a big problem I’ve had with his writing because those are two very different medias. Sometimes it works and other times it just fails like cutting back and forth between Rung and Functionist Rung both explaining and discovering their purpose at the same time. That’s how TV works not comics.

Ah I see, though I'm a little confused as to why that's a bad thing, like the example you give, what's so wrong with that? It's something that plays with visuals (like the scene where night beat and nautica are looking into brainstorms suitcase and time gets a lil weird.) It seems more to me that roberts adopts more of a comedy approach which again, I feel is fine as there shouldn't be anything you can't attempt with comics.

I also don't see the problem with borrowing TV lingo for story arcs as comics have always had things like: whatever event: part 2 of 6. I'd he wants to call a bunch of story arcs a season then that's fine, can't see why it would cause a fuss.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:47 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.

Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?


No it’s because he just does. That’s been a statement by people for years now that Roberts writes like he’s writing a TV show. The two part about charisma aliens? That’s straight out of Red Dwarf. Some(not me) even accused him of ripping off red dwarf and other British shows. Swearth is a straight up episode of a show. Tailgate and Cyclonus are literally hanging out in the “friends” apartment. There’s numerous jokes and references to Community too.

Roberts himself refers to post dark Cybertron to dying of the light as Season Two and LL as season three. No one does that with comics.

He’s always treated his comics as if they’re TV shows and that’s kind of always been a big problem I’ve had with his writing because those are two very different medias. Sometimes it works and other times it just fails like cutting back and forth between Rung and Functionist Rung both explaining and discovering their purpose at the same time. That’s how TV works not comics.

Ah I see, though I'm a little confused as to why that's a bad thing, like the example you give, what's so wrong with that? It's something that plays with visuals (like the scene where night beat and nautica are looking into brainstorms suitcase and time gets a lil weird.) It seems more to me that roberts adopts more of a comedy approach which again, I feel is fine as there shouldn't be anything you can't attempt with comics.

I also don't see the problem with borrowing TV lingo for story arcs as comics have always had things like: whatever event: part 2 of 6. I'd he wants to call a bunch of story arcs a season then that's fine, can't see why it would cause a fuss.
The main reason I said that was because Roberts himself practically admitted it, and because the pacing of his writing is like a TV show. The stories wouldn't be so bad if he would keep a steady pace of setting things up and then delivering on them, and not just leave details and story lines seemingly unfinished and then expect us to remember everything when he suddenly comes back to some small detail 6 months later. It's the erratic pacing (or plotting, whichever is more appropriate) that annoys me the most. For this reason, his stories are better when binged. This is why I don't like reading the individual issues, just get the trades when a story arc is over. Most of MTMTE's stories were pretty good reads when I read them as a whole, except the last 2. Dying of the Light was such a disappointment, and it couldn't even be blamed on horrible pacing, it was just a bad ending to what promised to be a great story. I reserve full judgment on LL until it is actually over and I read the whole thing from issue 1 to 25. So far I'm not impressed, but who knows, it could get good. The last 2 issues were an improvement over the previous 6 or 7. So we'll see. Again, that's what I mean about pacing. So uneven. Just exposes the flaws of Roberts' writing even more.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Galactic Prime » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:57 am

Good, I hope this entire comic series burns in hell, it's been terrible from start to finish.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:09 pm

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Then why did you read it for so long? Normally if something doesn't click with me after three-four issues we part ways.
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IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 Three Page Preview

Postby ScottyP » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:46 pm

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From the usual source of iTunes, the first three pages of Transformers: Lost Light #16 are now available. This quick preview is light on the dialogue, but heavy on the mystery and intrigue. The start of a three part story titled "The Everlasting Voices", the first entry is titled "Metastasis". With the end of #15 teasing with the word "threnody", the signs are there that surely everything will go just fine with a perfectly happy ending for everyone's favorite characters.

This latest chapter of Lost Light is set for release on March 14, 2018, making it the fourth entry of the series in just seven weeks at that point. Who knew Transformers comics had gone bi-weekly? The preview pages are mirrored below, featuring the writing of James Roberts, line art by Jack Lawrence, and colors by (presumably) Joana Lafuente.

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:03 pm

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Interesting, now how will this tie into things. My guess is that none of them are actually there physically. Also anyone else get the feeling that Cyclonus is seeing something different?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:13 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Interesting, now how will this tie into things. My guess is that none of them are actually there physically. Also anyone else get the feeling that Cyclonus is seeing something different?

I think he's seeing Tailgate. that's my guess
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IDW Transformers: Lost Light - Casey Coller To Do Linework for Issue 20, EJ Su Art Sample

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:39 pm

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Lost Light news has been coming hard and fast as of recent! With EJ Su confirmed to do artwork, The series to run to issue 25, and Issue 16's preview, making it the potential 4th Lost Light to be released in 2 months and finally back on schedule, all revealed, we thought we couldn't get any more news.

Well, we were wrong.

Thanks once more to James Roberts Twitter page, we have 2 new pieces of news to share with you tonight. The first news is that, following the spectacular return of EJ Su to interior work, we have word that issue 20 will be handled by yet another long time Transformers artist new to the series: Casey Coller!. Coller will be the guest artist for issue 20 of the series, and we are looking forward to finally seeing him on Lost Light interiors.

The 2nd piece of news is a 1-page penciled preview of EJ Su's artwork for issue 19! Check it out below, and let us know what you think of this newest piece of Lost Light news!

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby WreckerJack » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:56 pm

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Seems mildly interesting. Still soured after the last two issues. Might read my GF's copy to see if it redeems itself.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:07 pm

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I also think Cyclonus is seeing something else. So Rodimus is having a Matrix vision. Maybe he'll get it back and become Rodimus Prime just in time for Unicron to show up.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:21 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:I also think Cyclonus is seeing something else. So Rodimus is having a Matrix vision. Maybe he'll get it back and become Rodimus Prime just in time for Unicron to show up.


They’re in the same place seeing the same thing.

Here’s no matrix to get back. It’s broken and in Optimus possession. This is a 3 part story.

They’re not going to be part of the Unicron story. That’s going to be only johns thing. James last story will be him tying up his own story of all his characters converging on cyberutopia.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:47 am

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Randomhero wrote:They’re not going to be part of the Unicron story. That’s going to be only johns thing. James last story will be him tying up his own story of all his characters converging on cyberutopia.
I must have missed this information in the news. Can you post a link, please?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Galactic Prime » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:48 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Then why did you read it for so long? Normally if something doesn't click with me after three-four issues we part ways.


Mostly for the art, and a tiny bit hoping at some point it would get better, sadly, I was wrong on the second part. At least the art has gotten better since they let that clown EJ Su draw it
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:58 pm

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Genuine question: when you say you'd hoped it get better, what kind of story were you expecting/wanting?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:01 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:23 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:From the look on his face, maybe Cyclonus sees this:

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Hah, :lol:

Nah if that was the case, the panel would show him rolling over the floor laughing, expecting the original cyclonus to break out into a village people song looking like that.

Seriously it looks like hes wearing briefs

I think that it will end up being tailgate as someone else suggested, or, in a curve ball move, he's sees an image of cybertron as it was before the first ark launched.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:26 pm

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I was thinking more along the lines of the more uniform aesthetic, the missing Faction Symbol etc. I imagine those things will present themselves soon enough in the "reboot".
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:19 pm

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Will have to see but I hope not, though the question does become how will they deal with galvatron, his own man? (This approach works best as there's little overlap between megs and galvy) or will they go full revival of megs -> galvy...hang on a moment...you were complaining in another thread about the franchise sticking with too much g1 influence and yet you want cyclonus and other aspects to be more like the sunbow cartoon. You want g1 to be used less then you need to get used to the idea that cyclonus doesn't need to be that boring yes man again. His character may have gone through some retcons but what he's now is infinitely better. I have a feeling that furman would gladly sign off on this new aspect.

Can't wait for the five page preview to come up, though it will be next week (hopefully) before we get answers...apart from those lucky few who get review copies early
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #347 - Swooped In
Twincast / Podcast #347:
"Swooped In"
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Posted: Saturday, April 6th, 2024

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