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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:37 am

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The always excellent digital assistant over at IDW Publishing Mariel Romero has uploaded the short short preview of the upcoming second part of the Scavenger excursus, in Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 - check out the three pages from iTunes below!

What does it mean to be a DECEPTICON in a postwar universe? Was MEGATRON’s rise to power the inevitable consequence of configurative determinism? Is it possible to "disprove" an ideology? Who decided that all the badges should be purple? In this issue, the Scavengers ponder at least one of these questions.


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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:22 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:21 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:29 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:I guess Max still has some issues to work out.

Eh, Overlord put him in a coma for years only about 5-10 years back in-story wise, can't blame him for not being over it yet :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby Prowl4 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:03 pm

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The best transformers series going. Looking forward to seeing what happens in this issue. Is that red alert back? Looks like him and fort max are working together by tracking cons like microchip and the punisher.

Although fort max reciting the tyrest arrest speech was odd, why is he reciting it? Where is star saber?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:00 pm

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Will there be a long storyarc leading up to issue 50? I'm reading through this series by the TPB volumes, and I'm impressed so far. Very good writing. I've only finished volume 2 so far, hopefully Rodimus gets better as a character.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:04 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Will there be a long storyarc leading up to issue 50? I'm reading through this series by the TPB volumes, and I'm impressed so far. Very good writing. I've only finished volume 2 so far, hopefully Rodimus gets better as a character.

Some of the stories are actually set up as 4-5 issue series, but others are more single issue looking but every issue has some sort of carry over that is important. And Rodimus will be looking different by the time you catch up to this issue :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby ScottyP » Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:52 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Will there be a long storyarc leading up to issue 50? I'm reading through this series by the TPB volumes, and I'm impressed so far. Very good writing. I've only finished volume 2 so far, hopefully Rodimus gets better as a character.
Let's see, you're about to get into a few side stories in Volume 3, then two pretty well contained longer arcs in 4 and 5 that also serve the larger ongoing MTMTE tale. Dark Cybertron is a detour, but a necessary one for the rest of the volumes, also serves big picture. Volumes 6 and 7 continue the overall story. Volume 8 is going to be all over the place, but again, advances the overall plot.

Volume 9 is, again presumably, the last trade that would lead in to issue 50 (assuming it'll be 45-49). It'll be a two parter that follows up on something introduced in the volume you're about to read, that isn't visited again until now. Then, a three parter we know little about right now that should lead in to 50 which we've been told should be some form of big deal.

tl;dr: Yes.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:44 am

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ScottyP wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Will there be a long storyarc leading up to issue 50? I'm reading through this series by the TPB volumes, and I'm impressed so far. Very good writing. I've only finished volume 2 so far, hopefully Rodimus gets better as a character.
Let's see, you're about to get into a few side stories in Volume 3, then two pretty well contained longer arcs in 4 and 5 that also serve the larger ongoing MTMTE tale. Dark Cybertron is a detour, but a necessary one for the rest of the volumes, also serves big picture. Volumes 6 and 7 continue the overall story. Volume 8 is going to be all over the place, but again, advances the overall plot.

Volume 9 is, again presumably, the last trade that would lead in to issue 50 (assuming it'll be 45-49). It'll be a two parter that follows up on something introduced in the volume you're about to read, that isn't visited again until now. Then, a three parter we know little about right now that should lead in to 50 which we've been told should be some form of big deal.

tl;dr: Yes.

The whole thing really is a huge long story. Everytime a story arc ends, it literally sets the next one up, and even episodes where there seems to be no advancement whatsoever have some sort of thing thrown in either subtly, or like MTMTE 43: loudly :BOT:
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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Full Preview

Postby Va'al » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:26 am

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Coming this Wednesday is the next chapter in the Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye ongoing series from IDW, and the second part of the Scavengers excursus - find out more about Fort Max's intentions in the full preview below! And remember to drop by Seibertron.com on the day of release for our own review of the issue, too.

Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46
James Roberts (w) • Alex Milne (a & c)
What does it mean to be a DECEPTICON in a postwar universe? Was MEGATRON’s rise to power the inevitable consequence of configurative determinism? Is it possible to "disprove" an ideology? Who decided that all the badges should be purple? In this issue, the Scavengers ponder at least one of these questions.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby Deadput » Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:43 pm

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Grimlock looks like the Beast on that cover.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:31 pm

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Wonder what happens when Grim and Max meet again... :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby Whifflefire » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:41 pm

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Stoked! Can't wait. I love the writing style of this series, it can be a dramatic moment and there are still characters making jokes without ruining the moment.

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:33 pm

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Roberts just confirmed on his twitter that there will be a Lost Lighter cameo!! Here's hoping it's Ratchet and/or Drift!! :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby MrBlack » Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:42 am

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This was a really excellent issue. Some great character moments for the Scavengers and Fort Max, and a few minor mysteries revealed about the former.

The last couple of pages drop some major mysteries for the future: The mysterious glyph from Luna 1 shows up again, on the WAP and at Demus' facility. We also see some bots wearing the symbol, who are obviously part of a larger conspiracy, and who mention a "Grand Architect." Tyrest, perhaps?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:12 pm

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MrBlack wrote:The last couple of pages drop some major mysteries for the future: The mysterious glyph from Luna 1 shows up again, on the WAP and at Demus' facility. We also see some bots wearing the symbol, who are obviously part of a larger conspiracy, and who mention a "Grand Architect." Tyrest, perhaps?
Interesting that it appears it was Grimlock who drew the glyph in the WAP. Check the panel right where Max shows up to capture him. That, along with Max's mention of the Roboids previously being things with a "beast mode", and I think it's a bit more clear what happened to Grimlock.

I'm also trying to figure out what "Prepare Confront Repel" might mean, but not a lot of clues. Haven't really dug around much either.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby Va'al » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:46 am

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Apologies on the lateness of the review - I have to move it to next Wednesday due to personal commitments outside of the internet. :shock:
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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Review

Postby Va'al » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:45 am

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Synopsis
What does it mean to be a DECEPTICON in a postwar universe? Was MEGATRON’s rise to power the inevitable consequence of configurative determinism? Is it possible to "disprove" an ideology? Who decided that all the badges should be purple? In this issue, the Scavengers ponder at least one of these questions.

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Story

First of all, a note of apology and of due credit. Life this side of the screen gets busy, and a lot of the wording and thoughts for this review are worked in tandem with ScottyP (my saviour). On the other hand, the issues getting in the way of writing the review actually feed 'nicely' into the topics of the issue itself!

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Whatever lacklustre comments I made last month for the first part of this story, and of James Roberts' style in approaching it, have definitely redeemed themselves by issue #46. There is plenty of character development, plenty of plot direction, and some really good work in terms of addressing wider post-war issues for the TFverse overall, no longer limited to the other titles.

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Some characters clearly stand out, in terms of how they are portrayed and their role to the story, with Krok, Fort Max and Crankcase definitely taking centre stage. The rest of the cast, though, is not set aside, and we have some excellent moments with pretty much everyone involved, through a wide range of (e)motion, too.

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Plus a lot of guns, apparently


I do have some criticisms by the time the book comes to a close, though I will mention them more below. The standout point, if a little clunky in some of its execution, was looking at not only physical, not only theoretical, not only ideological consequences of the war - but the repercussions on the mental health of many of those who took however little a part.


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The visual team on this issue is gigantic, as Alex Milne prepares the pages, layouts and pencils, while Brian Shearer, John Livesay, John Wycough and Milne conjoin inking powers to bring a very different, multi-faceted look at some of the outer spaces of the Transformers universe currently explored, inwards and outwards.

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Both sides of which are cleverly rendered in tone and volume by the excellent colouring, shading and hue work of Joana Lafuente, who deftly includes one of the wider-ranging palettes we had currently seen on this book, at least since the Swerve issue and Hedonia, and some seriously emotional contrasts in dark/light games.

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And just look at that sky, again


Multiple inkers clearly (?) required multiple letterers, as regular Tom B. Long is joined by Chris Mowry - and with the Scavengers and Grimlock involved, you just know there's going to be plenty of font-based fun. And there is. The main cover also shows more of spotlight on one of the key players of the issue, as teased in #45, with Milne teaming up with Josh Perez again, as Nick Roche single-handedly Fort Maxes out for the artist edition variant (see thumbnail).


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

Practically copying Scott's words now, the issue does a very good job, along with some parts of Transformers: Redemption, at dealing with the often underrepresented consequences of war, and the individual repercussions of that state. It's no longer factions of Autobot, Decepticon, colonies or unaligned, but rather those who can let go of the war and those who hang on to it desperately.

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Then, of course, there's that side


The criticism I mentioned? Other than the couple of niggles above, the conclusion feels a little too nebulous, a little too complex and too much of a stinger to a wider story that we have only really started seeing - and it felt like a kick to remind us that, yes, we are still part of a wider narrative. Some will love it, I found it a little ..whelming. That said, definitely worth the read.

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:13 am

Definitely a better issue than last and a better story than the first Scavengers but it does leave you with "was this story worth telling?" The ending was fine but it was an ending that wasn't part of the story. If it had a connecting to something in the story but not a very vague connection.

Roberts writing is really channeling the writing of DWs patyk and mcdonough's ongoing where it's jumping everywhere, it's asking too many questions and answering too little. While it gets around to EVENTUALLY it is spending too much time laying down too many foundations and finishing the construction way too far down the road. It's expecting you to remember stuff 20-30 issues later anymore. Necrobot and agent 113 are great examples of that. While I had no problem with the resolution of those a majority did.

All that aside, I'm starting to wonder if the functionalists still have a big part in MTMTE. I'll try not to get too spoiler in this but it's been over a week now since the issue came out but that Cog symbol keeps showing up and cogs are a huge deal with the functionalists and not the Knights of Cybertron. Yes the cog symbols has something to do with the map and the matrix but we still don't know what the matrix is in IDW because religion is an unproven thing in IDW. We know rodimus and thunder clash has the map in their heads but they too carried the matrix to a point where it was fused into them.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:55 am

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We'll just have to see where this goes. I was glad to get these characters back in the story and am glad that we got a good issue. I really enjoyed it and look forward to issue 50 coming up and what it has in store for us! :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #46 Thread

Postby padfoo » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:15 pm

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I loved these last two issues and seeing things from the Decepticons POV. I have to admit I like the Scavengers and I was genuinely concerned about them getting put to rest.
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