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IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:07 am

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Definitely agree on that. I really hope this gets to be a full-on ongoing instead of being yet another short series that we'll get a sequel to in a year. That situation's plagued the Windblade comics since they began and I'd love to see it remedied...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:06 pm

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Kurona wrote:Definitely agree on that. I really hope this gets to be a full-on ongoing instead of being yet another short series that we'll get a sequel to in a year. That situation's plagued the Windblade comics since they began and I'd love to see it remedied...


I'd like to think it will. This series is more Cybertron-and-its-inhabitants focused than JUST focused on Windblade. Optimus Prime is focused on Earth, and Lost Light on outer space. Three very different stages for different stories to focus on. If the solicits for issue #9 aren't misleading, it'll focus mostly on Chromia, Starscream, and the council, and The Mistress of Flame will likely be sitting in for Windblade as she did in the Annual.
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IDW Transformers: Till All Are One #8 Full Preview

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:24 pm

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Also in comic news today, Newsarama has uploaded the full preview for IDW's Till All Are One #8, which is set to finish off the Titans Return story arc! Check out the preview, and get ready for some mass chaos as the evil titan Vigilem comes online!

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:03 pm

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Ooooh, this is gonna be good.

My guess is, Windblade is able to keep Vigilem dormant, but take control of his body (parts of which he took from Tempo) to fight off the zombie Titans. But the strain is too much, and she goes into stasis lock.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

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Good lord, Elita looks...robust.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby DeadCaL » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:20 pm

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She's a tough old bird, that Elita ;-)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Targetmaster Kup » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:46 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:So.... how about that Liege Maximo?


Do you think more people will be willing to try it now that Windblade is apparently dead for a while?

Lots of people claimed that as their biggest problem with the series.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:49 pm

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Nik Hero wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:So.... how about that Liege Maximo?


Do you think more people will be willing to try it now that Windblade is dead?

Lots of people claimed that as their biggest problem with the series.

But the thing is... A. she's not dead. Other issues already out confirmed it

B. The whole point of this series is to be spotlight: Starscream and Windblade, so it doesn't make sense that taking her away would solve problems cause she is basically the series, or at least half of it
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:58 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Nik Hero wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:So.... how about that Liege Maximo?


Do you think more people will be willing to try it now that Windblade is dead?

Lots of people claimed that as their biggest problem with the series.

But the thing is... A. she's not dead. Other issues already out confirmed it

B. The whole point of this series is to be spotlight: Starscream and Windblade, so it doesn't make sense that taking her away would solve problems cause she is basically the series, or at least half of it

C. She's a pretty damn good character honestly. It's a shame CW Machinima and Hasbro's shilling her out at every opportunity makes her extremely unappealing on the surface because I find it very easy to put her in the top 5 best female Transformers characters.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:51 pm

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Ok, so I just came to a realization: the whole 13 ores ending up on the planets that the 13 primes ended up on is starting to fall apart more.

it was already in danger because of Alpha Trion being on cybertron, thus leaving 13 ores to 12 primes, and then micronus being in a whole other universe (though the entropy cloud as an ore can still be said to make sense).

But this does break it. Liege Maximo was onboard Carcer AKA Vigilem, who I really think had some salvaged Tempo parts forming him, hence how Metroplex detected that titan as Tempo. But if Liege Maximo was on board that titan the whole time, then was the titan resting on a planet where an ore was planted, only to take off later? or is this a continuity order with the 13 ores and the 13 primes?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:02 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Ok, so I just came to a realization: the whole 13 ores ending up on the planets that the 13 primes ended up on is starting to fall apart more.

it was already in danger because of Alpha Trion being on cybertron, thus leaving 13 ores to 12 primes, and then micronus being in a whole other universe (though the entropy cloud as an ore can still be said to make sense).

But this does break it. Liege Maximo was onboard Carcer AKA Vigilem, who I really think had some salvaged Tempo parts forming him, hence how Metroplex detected that titan as Tempo. But if Liege Maximo was on board that titan the whole time, then was the titan resting on a planet where an ore was planted, only to take off later? or is this a continuity order with the 13 ores and the 13 primes?

IIRC, Shockwave planted the Ores where he thought the Primes had gone. There was no indication of just how correct he was, if he got all of them right if any at all; nor any indication of if he knew Trion was a Prime or not. It's very possible that Shockwave was simply incorrect.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:36 pm

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I think this series is only primarily about Windblade if you have a preconceived notion framing it that way and you aren't able to divorce said notion from your thoughts. This particular series has done an excellent job of building more of an ensemble feeling and giving other minor characters more moderate roles and making supporting cast of the past come front and center. She's a main character, yes, but not always the focus character.

Yeah, this particular issue focuses quite a bit on Windblade, but also on Chromia. And Elita. And Titans. Some Ironhide and Starscream too, plus Obsidian filling a nice role, and of course the spoiler mentioned several times above.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Targetmaster Kup » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:27 pm

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I agree that some haters wrongly think this is Windblade Vol. 3, so maybe if they thought this issue ended that, they might jump on.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:03 pm

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Nik Hero wrote:I agree that some haters wrongly think this is Windblade Vol. 3, so maybe if they thought this issue ended that, they might jump on.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Targetmaster Kup » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:12 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:19 pm

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I think all three ongoings are doing pretty great in the grand scheme of things; just at the moment OP and LL are a bit bogged down by being restarted as 'new' books and the burdens that come with that.
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Review of IDW Transformers: Till All Are One #8

Postby Va'al » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:25 am

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Synopsis
This is it: the final stand for Cybertron! Will Starscream and Windblade’s gamble finally pay off or will all of Iacon be destroyed by the zombie titans?

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This is where we started


Story

We know how this story ends. We know from solicitations and other ongoings that have a differed timeline in the storytelling. We know that the Titans are defeated, and that something happens on Cybertron and Caminus that requires the Mistress of Flame to show up, and wider repercussions. But we did not know it would happen like this.

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..ummmkay


This is the culmination of an action sequence that started three issues ago, one that began much earlier, and one sustained excellently through the arc, while trying to deal with one landscape of scenarios so crowded and multi-sided that anything wrong would've tipped it all off. It didn't. It doesn't.

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Very apt, Chosen One


The most surprising part? Metroplex is the one voice running through the story, as the ties he and his kind have to Carcer/Vigilem are the ones that Windblade must use, exploit and endure to bring an end to the Titans' return at the hands of Infinitus/Sentinel and Sovereign (yeah, remember them, that long while ago?). And it works, in such a powerful, moving, way. The connection is palpable.

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geddit? connection?


There are two stories being told here, through Windblade and Carcer, Vigilem and Metroplex: one has to do with Titans Return, and the end of that story arc; the other has to do with the entire TFverse, and digs much deeper than some of Windblade's moments have done so far (go back to the Revolution tie-in, for example). Both are poignant, neither detracts from the other, and they deliver blows of equal violence - as only Scott's evil writing can do.

Art

Sara Pitre Durocher truly, really shines in the issue. She combines the use of layers and contrasts, playing with negative space and foregrounds, sizes and overlays in such a way as to convey the scale - and not just in a tangible sense - metal warfare, as well as physical, are exquisitely portrayed in a very concrete way, and the designs of some newcomers (of sorts) only add to that.

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Those uses of negative space and contrast? They wouldn't be as effective without the perfect synchronised work of Joana Lafuente's colours, playing with the layers, adding shadows and light where the two can bring the most to the panel, shutting out either where only one suffices. Adding transparency to some overlays. Allowing us to savour the art on its many battlefields.

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TAAO has always brought some fascinating ways of using Titan brain modules and captions into the storytelling, and with Metroplex taking centre narratorial stage, Tom B. Long has some significantly hefty work on his plate, which he also delivers, as usual, effortlessly. And cover-wise, we have seen two out of three with Pitre-Durocher on the looming main, Priscilla Tramontano on the thumbnailed ominous silhouette, and Nelson Daniel (found in our database entry) taking the Awesome Twosome to front page material.

Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

The three current ongoing series from IDW Publishing all have their degrees of excellence, and appeal to slightly different readerships perhaps: Till All Are One, for me, maintains the perfect balance of lore shaking/building, character development, sustained action (it just did so for over four issues) and the more light hearted sides - even with darker humour - of the series. And it does so with such glee and revelling in its twisted, even darker plot turns.

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welp, there it is


What has just happened may probably not be revisited soon enough, as there will be a settling arc and story to follow this up as we find out what happens to its key players. There will be more, so much more to come now that some of the even BIGGER players are on the board; or perhaps, starting to move from outside the board altogether. I am most definitely in for the ride - you coming?

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:22 am

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Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Till All Are One #8

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:58 am

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Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Till All Are One #8

Postby Kurona » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:19 am

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What most fans see when they hear or see the name 'Windblade'
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Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Till All Are One #8

Postby Va'al » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:35 am

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Va'al wrote:
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welp, there it is

YAY! You listened to me!


Always do, I'm just quiet about it. ;)

Kurona wrote:What most fans see when they hear or see the name 'Windblade'


Nevertheless, she persisted.
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Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Till All Are One #8

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:36 am

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Va'al wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Va'al wrote:
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YAY! You listened to me!


Always do, I'm just quiet about it. ;)

Hmm, being literal or a slight dig at how I talk too much?

You decide! :-P

But really though, this was a great issue. TAAO has done some amazing things within the minds of cybertronians. First Bruticus, then this!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Optimus Prime13th » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:03 am

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #347 - Swooped In
Twincast / Podcast #347:
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