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[Sunstar]

I was specifically talking about Visionaries. But that was an interesting reaction I had not expected!

So far, there is very little LL plot feeding into Unicron, thought that may of course change.

great minds think alike then.

[WreckerJack]

I hadn't bothered with visionaries due to the previews looking kinda meh (and robots dying in stupid and or pointless ways is my pet peeve!)

[Sigma Magnus]

I hadn't bothered with visionaries due to the previews looking kinda meh (and robots dying in stupid and or pointless ways is my pet peeve!)

Guessing you didn't like the Wreckers saga then

[AllNewSuperRobot]

So I just read issue 0. That.. was interesting. Obviously the context of most of the dialogue, characters and relations to each other was lost on me. But it didn't actually matter in the end, because they are all largely fodder, as they should be.

I like this Unicron already. I like the preamble to him. That he is an unknown quantity. Wasn't crazy about the Galactus Quote at the end. They should definitely keep his speech to a minimum. Other than that, he is finally a relentless Destroyer. I approve.

[ZeroWolf]

I think they'll end up giving him a full voice once he's eaten more planets...not saying that's what I want but it's something I can see them doing, probably has something to do with his voice being so iconic (now that I think about it though, did unicron talk during the unicron trilogy, or was it only through sideways?)

Now I'm probably overthinking it but was there another reason emissary tried to stop them from getting out of there?

[AllNewSuperRobot]

In league is a possibility. As I've mentioned before the true significance of this Unicron is that Cybertron called for him. That suggests some kind of ancient failsafe?

His voice via Orson Welles is iconic. Yet his dialogue on the printed page... Not so much.

[AlphaBass]

I think they'll end up giving him a full voice once he's eaten more planets...not saying that's what I want but it's something I can see them doing, probably has something to do with his voice being so iconic (now that I think about it though, did unicron talk during the unicron trilogy, or was it only through sideways?)

Now I'm probably overthinking it but was there another reason emissary tried to stop them from getting out of there?

It's probably related to that energy spike Wheeljack saw when he was starting the space bridge. But also consider he was paralyzed from the crash, so he may not have been able to switch the signal off even if he wanted to.

[bluecatcinema]

If they went with that, they would have to explain what the connection was between the qunits and unicron was, which depending on how it was handled, could have been fun.

It certainly would have been better than Primacron

I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually prefer the Primacron origin. To me, it sounds a little more believable than Unicron being this god-like being who destroyed the previous universe.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the Primus/Unicron Creation origin either. I think it's one of those situations where less is more. Like in The Movie, he was just there, keeping the enigma and mystery, enhancing his character.

[ZeroWolf]

If they went with that, they would have to explain what the connection was between the qunits and unicron was, which depending on how it was handled, could have been fun.

It certainly would have been better than Primacron

I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually prefer the Primacron origin. To me, it sounds a little more believable than Unicron being this god-like being who destroyed the previous universe.

Is there such a thing talking about unbelievablilty when we're talking about shape shifting alien robots that can alter mass?

[Galactic Prime]

Ummmm he's a terrible writer? I honestly don't see how you can see him as good. The continuity of the IDW TF comics has been terrible. Utterly terrible.

His run didn't even start until The Death of Optimus Prime, so he can't even be blamed for anything before. If I remember properly, his stories helped smooth over some of the headaches from before. It would be nice, though, if you gave a more specific example of how he is bad, instead of just telling people they are wrong to like him, especially with such a well loved author like Barber.

OK, let me try to say it this way. Every reason that you like him, is why I don't. Does that help?

I haven't been impressed with the IDW Transformers at all. The characterizations on many of the characters are WAY off. The pointless and stupid deaths of characters that served no purpose.

I mean Mirage, Trailbreaker, Sideswipe, and so many more all terrible deaths.

But the characterizations, my god.... so terrible.

[WreckerJack]

I hadn't bothered with visionaries due to the previews looking kinda meh (and robots dying in stupid and or pointless ways is my pet peeve!)

Guessing you didn't like the Wreckers saga then

To be honest I have not read it yet. I bought it about a month ago and it's been on my to-read pile on my shelf. Maybe I should screw over my sleep cycle a little more and read it now haha.

Getting back to the subject, I read Unicron 0 and it was pretty good. There were some slow parts but it does make me curious for this series. I liked that they gave us a re-cap and some other cool stuff in the back of the book. I am glad I picked it up.

[ScottyP]

I hadn't bothered with visionaries due to the previews looking kinda meh (and robots dying in stupid and or pointless ways is my pet peeve!)

Guessing you didn't like the Wreckers saga then

To be honest I have not read it yet. I bought it about a month ago and it's been on my to-read pile on my shelf. Maybe I should screw over my sleep cycle a little more and read it now haha.

:clears throat, taps your shoulder:



Anyhow, I was thinking about it earlier and Trypticon + the Dinobots might be some of the IDW Transformersverse's most important characters going into this event. Protoform children and their 5 dino-dads (and 1 dino-mom in Strafe!) that may be the future of the Cybertronian species just hanging out in the background - for now, at least.

[Va'al]

More covers all together (from James Raiz) plus solicits for #3 and #4.





Solicits: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... 018/41273/

[starfishy]

Is that cobra commander?

[Daniel Adkins]

Yep!

[Carnivius_Prime]

Barber: Unicron is a really iconic piece of the Transformers mythos. If you’re old enough to have lived through the original Transformers cartoon in the 1980s, you remember what a massive, disruptive thing Unicron was in the movie. That movie was one of the most apocalyptic cartoons you were going to see as a kid in the 1980s—it was devastating watching those familiar characters die. And that’s intrinsically linked with Unicron—in my mind, at least—even though, as editor David Mariotte likes pointing out, Unicron didn’t really kill very many Transformers. He still ate whole planets!

I far, FAR preferred the Marvel comics storyline where due to various events, Unicron ends up arriving many years sooner than in the film and does kill many notable characters all beautifully drawn by Geoff Senior. In fact I can't even recall which characters died in the film by Unicron (most died way before he turns up) I might check out this thing just to see it finally end the IDW G1verse that I've had such great difficulty trying to enjoy the several times I've tried my hardest to over the years.

[ZeroWolf]

We did see unicron kill some bots at the end where daniel saved spike and bumblebee other than that he was supposed to have killed Shock wave but we don't techincally see it. I mean it's implied with unicron raking cybertron surface but it's not shown shockwave getting crushed. Plus we never see his body, it's just that we never see him again.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Yep!

So did Baroness become the new Cobra Commander?

We did see unicron kill some bots at the end where daniel saved spike and bumblebee other than that he was supposed to have killed Shock wave but we don't technically see it. I mean it's implied with unicron raking cybertron surface but it's not shown shockwave getting crushed. Plus we never see his body, it's just that we never see him again.

Shockwave and the Coneheads too (kind of). Likewise you could argue Reflector died here, as they vanished after this point too. Wasn't that Gears that got melted inside the acid vat as well?

[ZeroWolf]

I think it was gears...but I'm sure there was a couple more.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

I think it was gears...but I'm sure there was a couple more.

[Daniel Adkins]

Yep!

So did Baroness become the new Cobra Commander?

Yep!

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Yep!

So did Baroness become the new Cobra Commander?

Yep!

The original didn't go all Cobra-La again, did he?

[Daniel Adkins]

Yep!

So did Baroness become the new Cobra Commander?

Yep!

The original didn't go all Cobra-La again, did he?

Nope. He got shot in the head by Chuckles back in 2011. Baroness is actually the third person to claim the mantle since then.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

That's fine then. The Cobra-La stuff was always one step too far for me.