sol magnus wrote:Well, your complaints are well articulated. And that's fine. I'm not saying there are no legit gripes with the series - but, it's never going to be "perfect", even if such a thing exists.
sol magnus wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:sol magnus wrote:but none of them straight laid out how we get started in the war, either. All of that is scattershot across the continuity.
Megatron: Origin did exactly that. The first canonical story in the pre-retconned IDWverse.
Umm, no. The war hadn't started at the end of the series. Megatron said he "had a few ideas."
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:sol magnus wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:sol magnus wrote:but none of them straight laid out how we get started in the war, either. All of that is scattershot across the continuity.
Megatron: Origin did exactly that. The first canonical story in the pre-retconned IDWverse.
Umm, no. The war hadn't started at the end of the series. Megatron said he "had a few ideas."
Also please don't try to assert that this new run is anything approaching a "cerebral" story. I've read comics for 30 years. For cerebral books, I'd point you to Alan Moore, Grant Morrison or a whole host of Indie authors.
This current IDWverse is superficial story telling with clunky, heavy exposition and very little substance beyond that.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Next immediate issue/arc: Threefold Spark War.
As IDWverse did with Stormbringer, showing why the Cybertronians abandoned Cybertron (a great new idea that each subsequent writer gave up on). The new book needs to SHOW why their race has imposed such restrictions upon itself.
Black Hat wrote:There's loads of ways one could approach the "rise to power of evil dictator" story from a political angle. If you must use allegory (like Tolkein I rather dislike it) you could do a critique of Socialism, with Megatron championing a downtrodden workforce in some principality of Cybertron and rising up to cast down the oppressive Autobot overlords...only to discover that they totally lack the means, resources or knowledge to sustain themselves at even the most basic level, let alone the "free stuff" utopia Megatron dreamt of, resulting in the Decepticon state becoming an absolute trainwreck relying on invading neighboring states to get the resources needed to feed the woefully inefficient and corrupt workings of the Decepticon Union. Whilst obviously the immediate IRL parallel would be the Soviet Union, you could also work in a bit of the mess going on in places like South Africa and Zimbabwe ("Let's reclaim these farms from the colonist descendants for we natives!...Oh. Wait. We have no idea how to run these farms, and they're falling apart and we're starving. Whoops!").
Dr. Caelus wrote:Black Hat wrote:There's loads of ways one could approach the "rise to power of evil dictator" story from a political angle. If you must use allegory (like Tolkein I rather dislike it) you could do a critique of Socialism, with Megatron championing a downtrodden workforce in some principality of Cybertron and rising up to cast down the oppressive Autobot overlords...only to discover that they totally lack the means, resources or knowledge to sustain themselves at even the most basic level, let alone the "free stuff" utopia Megatron dreamt of, resulting in the Decepticon state becoming an absolute trainwreck relying on invading neighboring states to get the resources needed to feed the woefully inefficient and corrupt workings of the Decepticon Union. Whilst obviously the immediate IRL parallel would be the Soviet Union, you could also work in a bit of the mess going on in places like South Africa and Zimbabwe ("Let's reclaim these farms from the colonist descendants for we natives!...Oh. Wait. We have no idea how to run these farms, and they're falling apart and we're starving. Whoops!").
So, Animal Farm and basically every McCarthy-to-Reagan era wet dream of Capitalism being God's chosen economic system. But with alien robots.
Black Hat wrote:I mean, Animal Farm IS one of my favourite books, and whilst capitalism ain't perfect (though ultimately no system ever can be, as "utopian" ideals never work out- which would be an interesting theme to play with incidentally) it's sure better than the alternatives, especially that one they tried up until about '91 which caused more deaths than just about any other regime in history.
Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit: I mean, for Pete's sakes, Megatron: Origin ends with Megatron assassinating a narrative effigy of how Liberals view conservative politicians. Sentinel Prime represents everything Liberals hate, but Megatron murdering him was what triggered a massive civil war and began the Deceptions on a path towards becoming as bad as him.
ZeroWolf wrote:You can never know the intent of authors unless they say it themselves, I mean the president at the time was G W Bush, and its quite easy for a non-American to hold a view of American politics now in the days of the web.
ZeroWolf wrote:Now with the recent reveal of Battlemaster Rung, does this mean he'll be re-entering the comics? Maybe being a font for Primus from the get go. It is good though to see that these characters are getting their due and will maybe start to appear in other media, thus proving there is a taste out there for brand new characters.
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