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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Fri May 17, 2019 7:46 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Fri May 17, 2019 11:44 pm

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Dang great review Scotty thanks man!

I think that's just the shot in the arm we needed. Much appreciated good sir!
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Sat May 18, 2019 1:44 pm

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I was beginnibgbto think the lateness of the Review was because of reviewers opinions of the book. :lol:

For me, I feel like where Book5 ended, considering this is something like the last page of chapter 1 of a larger story is where we shoukda been in book3. This. Series has a bad habit of spening 17 pages on "story", ramping up thr last 3 pages of "action", and then not continuing the action again. The attack on Megatron comes to mind. Yes, things happened because of the attack, but its words and not actions. Even Megatron feels nonchalant about an attack on his own "flock".

That said, I think in a few years from now this story will be great in the trades, where we can read it and whatever comes next together with no waiting. These Comics are like side dishes, individually they won't fill you up but put together you get a good, if not great, meal.

This story is losing its lustre for me. I like the characters, and I like the world building. I love that the "Golden Age" pre war Cybertron is being shown as a vibrant, thriving part of a larger galaactic community. Something like this is a great way to quietly back-door character families like Rom. But I'm not feeling the "Oh Boy the new Transformers Comic is out" that I was feeling for Issue 1. But 5 left us at an interesting point, so if 6 promises to pickup the ACTION from 5 instead of another Story.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat May 18, 2019 2:41 pm

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Flashwave wrote:I was beginnibgbto think the lateness of the Review was because of reviewers opinions of the book. :lol:

For me, I feel like where Book5 ended, considering this is something like the last page of chapter 1 of a larger story is where we shoukda been in book3. This. Series has a bad habit of spening 17 pages on "story", ramping up thr last 3 pages of "action", and then not continuing the action again. The attack on Megatron comes to mind. Yes, things happened because of the attack, but its words and not actions. Even Megatron feels nonchalant about an attack on his own "flock".

That said, I think in a few years from now this story will be great in the trades, where we can read it and whatever comes next together with no waiting. These Comics are like side dishes, individually they won't fill you up but put together you get a good, if not great, meal.

This story is losing its lustre for me. I like the characters, and I like the world building. I love that the "Golden Age" pre war Cybertron is being shown as a vibrant, thriving part of a larger galaactic community. Something like this is a great way to quietly back-door character families like Rom. But I'm not feeling the "Oh Boy the new Transformers Comic is out" that I was feeling for Issue 1. But 5 left us at an interesting point, so if 6 promises to pickup the ACTION from 5 instead of another Story.

I think you're right about reading in the trades, as that's what I'm doing with this series. I'm still curious as to how much this will tie in to the toylines with the characters rocking the siege look, guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Sat May 18, 2019 2:52 pm

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I keep checking for any news on the new cartoon- with the dedication to the toy depiction I wonder if it’s a cross media assault with more synergy. That can mean less individual artistic interpretation in each of the mediums but at the end of the day it’s all Transformers it gets me excited. Maybe fans of the show will find the comic. I wonder if it’ll be the exact same stories or not, I think that’s what I’m trying to get at.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat May 18, 2019 2:54 pm

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I would expect a different story for the Netflix series, that one will probably start in the middle of the war.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby David Leese » Mon May 20, 2019 12:55 pm

A little late to the thread, but I'll be up-to-date in future (now that I've found this forum).

I really enjoyed this issue - more than I've enjoyed any of the others, and that includes issue 1, when I had the untainted optimism around following a new TF comic book series (my first since the original in the 80s).

It seems that the fifth issue follows the same general pattern of the whole series so far - each of the four issues has been 80-90% setup, then a sudden change of pace in the last few pages (the discovery of Brainstorm; the explosion at Megatron's rally; Orion's visit to Codexa). We've had four issues of that, and now things are finally - FINALLY - moving. I sincerely hope they don't drag the pace back to the glacial rate that we've had to suffer.

And please, no more walking and talking. The appeal of Transformers is that they... y'know... transform.

Anyway: here's my video review (the reviews for the four previous issues are also on my channel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WGvi9Gk4a8

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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon May 20, 2019 2:34 pm

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I'm certainly leaning towards the idea someone else should be given the TF license now.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Mon May 20, 2019 2:39 pm

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00Stargrave00 wrote:I keep checking for any news on the new cartoon- with the dedication to the toy depiction I wonder if it’s a cross media assault with more synergy. That can mean less individual artistic interpretation in each of the mediums but at the end of the day it’s all Transformers it gets me excited. Maybe fans of the show will find the comic. I wonder if it’ll be the exact same stories or not, I think that’s what I’m trying to get at.

IDW isn’t shying away from new characters, so I think the trade off for strictly toy accurate figures for guys like Prime and Megatron (whom we care most about) is that we get more freeform designs like Geomodus and the aliens, as well as ELita-1 who oddly is not using her PotP toy even though Quake CLEARLY is his TR figure. And I think that’s okay.

ScottyP made a point 2/3 Podcasts back that this toyline accuracy may in fact be less or as much about selling their own toys and more about Hasbro firing back the 3P guys who were making money off the IDW designs of Charactres like Rodimus. Which raises questions again about guys like Geomodus and Froid, who are NOT toy designs. Will we see the 3P guys try to make their money off second stringers? Is there even demand for that?
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon May 20, 2019 2:44 pm

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Although I have always found it strange that HasTak allow the 3P market to exist in the first place. It is, by the same token, seriously hypocritical of them to decry 3P. As they are making the range of figures HasTak themselves are too lazy and complacent to make.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon May 20, 2019 4:52 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Although I have always found it strange that HasTak allow the 3P market to exist in the first place. It is, by the same token, seriously hypocritical of them to decry 3P. As they are making the range of figures HasTak themselves are too lazy and complacent to make.

I always took it that they exist because of gray areas, the copyright laws in the countries they operate in, and lastly, how much it would cost hasbro to step on them. That's neither here or there really mind in the context of the thread.

Now regarding the story so far, I'm curious as to how it was planned out, as I read originally this story arc was supposed to be 12 issues? If that was the case then this doesn't even put us at the half way mark, would that account for pacing if we weren't fully in the middle yet?
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Mon May 20, 2019 5:13 pm

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3P makes me feel oogy yes it’s good it’s great stuff usually but it also feels like J walking or stealing Brachs from the market yeah ok nobody got hurt but we all know it’s breaking rules.

Hey I’ll be honest I think I’m going to start grabbing issues so I can keep up with you all but I’ve also been waiting thinking I’d get it collected after it’s over like I ended up sadly doing with IDW. In that regard I also don’t want to miss the bandwagon again.

Are any of you Seibertronians waiting for a collected edition before buying?
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon May 20, 2019 5:32 pm

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00Stargrave00 wrote:Are any of you Seibertronians waiting for a collected edition before buying?

I always buy trades, but I'm still not convinced enough to pick up the trade of this yet. But I did enjoy issue 5 more than any of the other issues
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue May 21, 2019 4:43 am

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I'm a trade buyer as well, I prefer not having to wait for the next issue :lol: not till I get to the end of the collection anyway
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue May 21, 2019 5:39 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I'm a trade buyer as well, I prefer not having to wait for the next issue :lol: not till I get to the end of the collection anyway

I prefer the way I can put them on a shelf that way. It's more organized and a lot easier to find what you want to read too!
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Transformers #6 iTunes 3 Page Preview and #7 Sneak Peak

Postby Stargrave » Thu May 23, 2019 10:20 pm

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Fellow Seibertronians we have a few news bites from the new Transformers comic from IDW! First up is a short but very interesting three page preview from iTunes for Transformers #6. Check ‘em out!

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"Optimus takes the spotlight! Even a bot as wise as a leader of the Autobots needs guidance now and again, so Optimus turns to Codexa-A Cybertronian who has grown into the very planet itself. Will she help Optimus settle his problems with Megatron or will she lead them both to ruin?" By Author Brian Ruckly and artist Bethany McGuire-Smith the 32 page issue is expected this month.

Following up with that story is a teaser image from series editor Tom Waltz from his Instagram account giving us a great teaser shot of Cyclonus bearing down like the Cybertronian Count Dracula ready to lay down violet (and probably violent) retribution!

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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri May 24, 2019 6:24 am

Really disliking the art on Transformers 6.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Fri May 24, 2019 7:08 am

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It's different in terms of art on the first two pages, but I don't hate it.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri May 24, 2019 9:14 am

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Transformers X Final Fantasy.. Who knew :P

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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri May 24, 2019 9:25 am

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@allnew does that mean Megatron will play the part of Sephiroth ;) Also why am I okay with the idea of such a crossover (more so if better then the summons of FF13)

So Codexa is acting as some kind of historical archive here I'm guessing.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri May 24, 2019 9:29 am

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:lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues ;)

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device... >:oP
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri May 24, 2019 9:32 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues ;)

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device... >:oP

To be fair, that just adds to the final fantasy comparison as Jenova was also a plot device really... At least Codexa is getting lines.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri May 24, 2019 10:34 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues ;)

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device... >:oP


Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about... :roll:
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Fri May 24, 2019 10:51 am

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Randomhero wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol: Only if Megatron has Mother issues ;)

Yes, how droll. Codexa is a Literal Plot Device... >:oP


Yeah and we all know those have never existed in transformers in 35 years. Certainly not the matrix, the Allspark, the underbase, the magnificence, the enigma of combinations, Star saber sword, requiem blaster, alpha Trion, the guiding hand, the thirteen.

Totally new idea that we should criticize without knowing anything about... :roll:

Seems like it was Orion's memory, anyway. We don't even know that she's any kind of McGuffin as yet.
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