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I'm mostly a fan of Ramondelli's work, I know nothing of the author. Hopefully this will be better paced than what we have now, I find the concept interesting.

I feel like this is an extension of sorts to the original Spotlight idea, depending on the bots it covers, it could be a good read.

I'll give this a shot but it does feel like a shot in the arm for the main series which is just dawdling along. They need to pick up the pace and make the book a touch more interesting and exciting.

Sounds interesting but I'm not a fan of Ramondelli's art. Along with Wildman, he's my least favourite artist.

The nuIDW stuff has had some deeply questionable art but those Constructicons are looking rather nice.

After getting a 1-page teaser as Tuesday, we have another teaser page for you for the upcoming IDW Transformers #8! Issue #8 appears to be a very Cyclonus-heavy issue, as our prior preview showed us him engaging Flamewar in a very violent showdown, and this page gives us a very worried looking Froid following by a flying Cyclonus totally smashing his way into some sort of building.

This preview comes to us from Tom Waltz on Twitter, and with an apparent delay the issue is set to come out next Wednesday, July 3.

Check out the page below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

Thanks to artist Winston Chan from his Twitter account we have a great image of the cover for issue #13 of the current IDW Transformers! You can see Starscream along with a particular pumpkin-hued Prime in the background with a nicely drawn Prowl and Chromia on the run in the foreground. Check out the image and as always share your view with the Seibertron crew in the forums.

From Winston's Twitter:
"The cover drawn and coloured by me for issue 13 of
@IDWPublishing's new #Transformers comic.
I'm so grateful for the chance to realise a dream. Much thanks to
@IDW_David_M and @TomWaltz.
Hope you all like it."

The perspective on Chromia's legs makes me physically ill. Nice colour work though.

TR Sentinel Prime? Ok then, I guess

Nice art, but I feel like we had better art before.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:TR Sentinel Prime? Ok then, I guess

Nice art, but I feel like we had better art before.

Yes I agree with sentinel. I’ve been looking forward to his official introduction even though a small part of me wondered if TR toy would be used. I have the toy. I like it but it’s not the best translated in art. I am hoping for heroic Sentinel Prime and not robot nazi sentinel. Worked for the first IDW but let’s go back to a bot Optimus looked up to.

I do like the art on the cover though

Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?

ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?

It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?

It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.

Like a sentinel from Megatron Origin who was alluded to being a smug A-hole but because he had a duty and didn’t care about the politicians. I’d be fine with that.

I still enjoyed Sentinel Prime from IDW but now that it’s all said and done I see errors. He revealed that like Sovereign he was an agent of Nexus Prime and then Onyx Prime and was preparing for Onyx’s return. His plan was to bring an army of titans and wipe out everyone on Cybertron. colonists and planet born Cybertronians. When Onyx returned and Shockwave revealed himself, sentinel and the plan to use titans to go all attack on Titan and trample everyone is not mentioned and none of that seemed to gel with shockwaves plans. It didn’t make any sense in the end.

One big criticism I have for the end of IDW was a lot of things didn’t end up getting resolved. Mainly plots with sovereign and Centurion. No time. They just got dumped. Woulda been nice if we’d gotten some interaction with Shockwave and those 2

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?

It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.

Like a sentinel from Megatron Origin who was alluded to being a smug A-hole but because he had a duty and didn’t care about the politicians. I’d be fine with that.

I still enjoyed Sentinel Prime from IDW but now that it’s all said and done I see errors. He revealed that like Sovereign he was an agent of Nexus Prime and then Onyx Prime and was preparing for Onyx’s return. His plan was to bring an army of titans and wipe out everyone on Cybertron. colonists and planet born Cybertronians. When Onyx returned and Shockwave revealed himself, sentinel and the plan to use titans to go all attack on Titan and trample everyone is not mentioned and none of that seemed to gel with shockwaves plans. It didn’t make any sense in the end.

One big criticism I have for the end of IDW was a lot of things didn’t end up getting resolved. Mainly plots with sovereign and Centurion. No time. They just got dumped. Woulda been nice if we’d gotten some interaction with Shockwave and those 2

All the stuff with Shockwave/Onyx/whatnot still reeks of an eleventh hour pivot to simplify a more complex, pre-planned plot and move it towards a rushed conclusion to make way for the Unicron wrap-up event.

ScottyP wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?

It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.

Like a sentinel from Megatron Origin who was alluded to being a smug A-hole but because he had a duty and didn’t care about the politicians. I’d be fine with that.

I still enjoyed Sentinel Prime from IDW but now that it’s all said and done I see errors. He revealed that like Sovereign he was an agent of Nexus Prime and then Onyx Prime and was preparing for Onyx’s return. His plan was to bring an army of titans and wipe out everyone on Cybertron. colonists and planet born Cybertronians. When Onyx returned and Shockwave revealed himself, sentinel and the plan to use titans to go all attack on Titan and trample everyone is not mentioned and none of that seemed to gel with shockwaves plans. It didn’t make any sense in the end.

One big criticism I have for the end of IDW was a lot of things didn’t end up getting resolved. Mainly plots with sovereign and Centurion. No time. They just got dumped. Woulda been nice if we’d gotten some interaction with Shockwave and those 2

All the stuff with Shockwave/Onyx/whatnot still reeks of an eleventh hour pivot to simplify a more complex, pre-planned plot and move it towards a rushed conclusion to make way for the Unicron wrap-up event.

Well said. I wanted to like Optimus Prime’s go at a title in his name and that whole 11th hour push/arc as you accurately called it but it was very busy and muddled then ooo inky Junkions then ooo lots of Aileron then oo Onyx and boom done. And Shockwave just didn’t feel like Shockwave. In retrospect I was left wanting a bit.

Having read the whole thing in a big whoosh like I did looking at it as a whole I think there were a lot of factors at play but nothing bored me more than the crossover stuff. Crap. Crossover crap. And I love each of those properties from my childhood dearly but it just was wrong it did not belong.

ScottyP wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?

It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.

Like a sentinel from Megatron Origin who was alluded to being a smug A-hole but because he had a duty and didn’t care about the politicians. I’d be fine with that.

I still enjoyed Sentinel Prime from IDW but now that it’s all said and done I see errors. He revealed that like Sovereign he was an agent of Nexus Prime and then Onyx Prime and was preparing for Onyx’s return. His plan was to bring an army of titans and wipe out everyone on Cybertron. colonists and planet born Cybertronians. When Onyx returned and Shockwave revealed himself, sentinel and the plan to use titans to go all attack on Titan and trample everyone is not mentioned and none of that seemed to gel with shockwaves plans. It didn’t make any sense in the end.

One big criticism I have for the end of IDW was a lot of things didn’t end up getting resolved. Mainly plots with sovereign and Centurion. No time. They just got dumped. Woulda been nice if we’d gotten some interaction with Shockwave and those 2

All the stuff with Shockwave/Onyx/whatnot still reeks of an eleventh hour pivot to simplify a more complex, pre-planned plot and move it towards a rushed conclusion to make way for the Unicron wrap-up event.

Well that’s the thing. John did that interview with Mike and Andy on the Moonbase 2 and he said that Shockwave and Onyx was planned in 2015. He was year into season 2 of RID when he figures out how to bring back Shockwave. John still had everything planned with a Onyx and Shockwave but he decided to leave the book after “the falling arc” but when they decided to end the continuity they tossed in a unicron at the end.

You can see there was a bigger story that was gonna he told. Onyx does show up and claims to have a cure for the corrupted Energon the talisman did. He’s even holding a via of something all through the arc but in the final issue Shockwave just says he had no cure and liege Maximo’s power of deceit was rubbing off on him. Even I said “wait..what?”

I still enjoy how IDW ended very much. I still love the unicron story and everything but you can totally see there was waaaaaay more that gonna go on if it hadn’t ended.

All of Scott’s plans for till all are one.
The arisen
The colonies
The stuff that for crunched into the last 6 issues of Lost light.
Sovereign
sentinel

A lot of stuff got axed but I still think they did the best they could with a 12 month notice to end it all.

00Stargrave00 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?

It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.

Like a sentinel from Megatron Origin who was alluded to being a smug A-hole but because he had a duty and didn’t care about the politicians. I’d be fine with that.

I still enjoyed Sentinel Prime from IDW but now that it’s all said and done I see errors. He revealed that like Sovereign he was an agent of Nexus Prime and then Onyx Prime and was preparing for Onyx’s return. His plan was to bring an army of titans and wipe out everyone on Cybertron. colonists and planet born Cybertronians. When Onyx returned and Shockwave revealed himself, sentinel and the plan to use titans to go all attack on Titan and trample everyone is not mentioned and none of that seemed to gel with shockwaves plans. It didn’t make any sense in the end.

One big criticism I have for the end of IDW was a lot of things didn’t end up getting resolved. Mainly plots with sovereign and Centurion. No time. They just got dumped. Woulda been nice if we’d gotten some interaction with Shockwave and those 2

All the stuff with Shockwave/Onyx/whatnot still reeks of an eleventh hour pivot to simplify a more complex, pre-planned plot and move it towards a rushed conclusion to make way for the Unicron wrap-up event.

Well said. I wanted to like Optimus Prime’s go at a title in his name and that whole 11th hour push/arc as you accurately called it but it was very busy and muddled then ooo inky Junkions then ooo lots of Aileron then oo Onyx and boom done. And Shockwave just didn’t feel like Shockwave. In retrospect I was left wanting a bit.

Having read the whole thing in a big whoosh like I did looking at it as a whole I think there were a lot of factors at play but nothing bored me more than the crossover stuff. Crap. Crossover crap. And I love each of those properties from my childhood dearly but it just was wrong it did not belong.

See I all about shockwaves character in the falling arc and unicron. This isn’t senator Shockwave and it’s not logic driven Shockwave. It’s a mixture of both that’s also 18-19 million years old. Much like the change in Megatron in MTMTE/LL, he’s completely different character.

See I felt that too fortunately there was enough mention of and exposition to make that really tangible for me but as we’re all kind of echoing I guess it just felt squeezed in.

Every death in Unicron felt like saying goodbye in painful chunks to something I’d fallen in love with fast and hard like a teenager’s romance. You always wish you had more time.

You mentioned how Megatron evolved that’s like all you needed to say. When his canon turned into his med case I thought oh some people are gonna hate that but I love a well written villain turnaround I lost my fanboy s$&@ when he did that. He’s like the Doctor Doom type character teaming up with the FF I always geeked out for that stuff.

00Stargrave00 wrote:See I felt that too fortunately there was enough mention of and exposition to make that really tangible for me but as we’re all kind of echoing I guess it just felt squeezed in.

Every death in Unicron felt like saying goodbye in painful chunks to something I’d fallen in love with fast and hard like a teenager’s romance. You always wish you had more time.

You mentioned how Megatron evolved that’s like all you needed to say. When his canon turned into his med case I thought oh some people are gonna hate that but I love a well written villain turnaround I lost my fanboy s$&@ when he did that. He’s like the Doctor Doom type character teaming up with the FF I always geeked out for that stuff.

Soundwaves death still gets to me so much when I got reread unicron and I do go back every couple months and read it again. He seriously became a shining gem in IDW and his death was very sad but he went out a hero. Nothing will probably ever trump IDW Shockwave as one of the best villains in transformers fiction but I don’t think anything will ever trump Soundwave either just as a character.

Randomhero wrote:

00Stargrave00 wrote:See I felt that too fortunately there was enough mention of and exposition to make that really tangible for me but as we’re all kind of echoing I guess it just felt squeezed in.

Every death in Unicron felt like saying goodbye in painful chunks to something I’d fallen in love with fast and hard like a teenager’s romance. You always wish you had more time.

You mentioned how Megatron evolved that’s like all you needed to say. When his canon turned into his med case I thought oh some people are gonna hate that but I love a well written villain turnaround I lost my fanboy s$&@ when he did that. He’s like the Doctor Doom type character teaming up with the FF I always geeked out for that stuff.

Soundwaves death still gets to me so much when I got reread unicron and I do go back every couple months and read it again. He seriously became a shining gem in IDW and his death was very sad but he went out a hero. Nothing will probably ever trump IDW Shockwave as one of the best villains in transformers fiction but I don’t think anything will ever trump Soundwave either just as a character.

Oh hells yes! Just all he fought for, by the end he totally got me.

You know what I would like to see in the future, comics based on other tf settings. IDW did a great job changing G1, could they do the same with G2? Or The Unicron Trilogy?

I too hope for a different Sentinel Prime. He was one of those where I felt the political commentary was just a bit too much on the nose, and I adore Animated Sentinel as the guy with a chip on his shoulder that really shouldn't lead but can and does while being a jerk. We need more of that

While checking on the IDW Twitter it was noted the full cover image for IDW's Transformers #8 lists in the lower left corner that this issue will also be including a Trading Card Game Booster Pack.
From the summary:
"As Megatron seeks to bring about change to Cybertron, he meets with Termagax, a living piece of Cybertronian history and founder of the Ascenticon movement. Find out where she takes him when TRANSFORMERS #8 hits stores this week!"

Like it says in the summary the issue is due out this week so be sure to pick up your copy and let us know what you think in the forums!

ZeroWolf wrote:You know what I would like to see in the future, comics based on other tf settings. IDW did a great job changing G1, could they do the same with G2? Or The Unicron Trilogy?

Maybe someday with Unicron Trilogy. It would be nice to get a comic series that had a beginning middle wand end with it since we didn’t get that without DW. I would even mind a maxi-series for each part. Like 12 issues for each part.

G2...it’d be neat to attempt the only problem is G2 is just G1 continued. I wouldn’t even mind if we went back to that coda issue from Mike costa that was ended his ongoing and made a what if since they decided to make that vision instead of a “final issue” to it all