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[sol magnus]

Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

It's not just you. I actually enjoyed it.

I do want puncing and shooting, and yes...transforming. But all of that has to serve the story. Just like an all dialogue issue.

I dont think anyone really minds all dialogue issues. The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

This comic is nowhere near a James Roberts all dialogue issue.

I didn't say it was "near" a James Roberts all dialogue issue. I didn't even hint at that.

What I'm saying is I enjoyed it on the merits of what it is, and without comparison to anything else.

Like you guys, I want to "get to it" so to speak, but I realize there are meta reasons for a slow burn comic when it comes out every two weeks. This all just smacks of 15 or so years ago, which really only makes me tired.

[Cyberstrike]

I'm not buying this series because I got burned out by all of DC's Rebirth bi-weekly books, and honestly this new reboot sounded like a rehash of the previous IDW universe which was IMHO was the greatest "G1" and "G1 inspired" media ever produced by anyone. So why should I support and settle for a cheap knock-off of a superior product?

If they really wanted me to buy this series then they should make a VASTLY different take on the Transformers, and just not another rehash of the previous universes. Maybe I'll buy this when it comes out in TPB or HC but right now since I'm saving $8 a month to buy other books that I like, so for me it's an easy pass.

[william-james88]

I'm not buying this series because I got burned badly by DC's Rebirth bi-weekly books, and honestly this new reboot sounded like a rehash of the previous IDW universe which was IMHO was the greatest "G1" and "G1 inspired" media ever produced by anyone and why should I settle for a cheap knock-off of a superior product?

I can get behind all of that, including the comparison to DC. So far, I have yet to read a DC story in its Rebirth line that really outdid itself.

[Rodimus Prime]

The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

That's your opinion, certainly not fact.

[ThunderPax]

On the topic of issue six.

I made an account to vent and give my two cents on the issue.
IDW 2005 wasn't perfect so stop acting like it was. Is it better than this? Of course, but that's like comparing the acting ability of an eleven-year old up-and-comer with Robert Downey Jr.
I miss James, but I miss Elegant Chaos, Chaos Theory, Remain in Light, and just pre-Dying of the Light James. So basically pre-Revolution where everything went to crap in all corners of IDW because of bad editorial and higher-up choices.
James, as he's said, is done with Transformers for now so we need to get over it.

Now onto the issue: I liked it. Gave me Exodus flashbacks with the two being friends. I find the art nice and reminiscent of the early Windblade issues(idk if same artist), and the scene in space? I loved it. No, nothing will beat Chromedome reuniting with Rewind, but that had years of build up.
Yes, I think perhaps following up with useless character--I mean Rubble's(hopeful) death would have been the best way to go, but to me this is nice. Yes the first few issues were slow, but it could be said that slow is better than fast-paced non-stop events going on in other comics*cough*Marvel*cough*. The art was better, we got some backstory on Orion and Megatron, we got some more lore with Codexa and the Nominus thing.
Not much they could do with their relationship that hasn't been done, guys.
Brothers, Bayverse. Strangers, G1. Acquaintances turned adversaries, IDW 2005. Friends, Aligned continuity and Exodus. Not much to do. At least they're keeping things familiar with Archivist and Miner/Gladiator.

Yes, I think past issue one has been very, very slow. I blame that on a useless character--I mean Rubble's prolonged existence, but that's just my invalid opinion.
I personally liked issue six, and would love for this to turn out somewhat like Griffith and Guts relationship in the anime "Berserk." Not...entirely like that, mind you, but the same feeling of brothers turned hated enemies due to clashing ideals and one's overwhelming desire for power to help bring about their dream.
I think this will be a slow trek, but a worthwhile one. People always wanted peaceful pre-war Cybertron and I've seen people always wanting to go over the entire fall of Cybertron. This will be long, but I think that payoff of Orion and Megatron turning into enemies will be worth it. We just need to endure with the literal universe-building the man is doing and appreciate that Nautica is now a mainstay.

[william-james88]

The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

That's your opinion, certainly not fact.

Of course, thats written in the begining of the article. Since when can anything taste related be factual?

Although, I was surprised at how much agreeing there were in the comments.

[Tigertrack]

It would be nice to not have to judge a comic until the trade is out, and the arc is done, but you do, as a reviewer and as a reader. You're expected to do some analysis. To make connections and interest others in possibly responding to your thoughts and ideas. A review can't be only stating facts of this happened that happened and done. (I don't claim to be good at any of those things, or better than anyone else - once upon a time, it fell in my lap-).

Reviews are a service to site users/visitors. They give a heads up that a recent issue was released, and maybe give someone a reason to buy, pay attention to, or ignore an issue without spoiling the issue -but I really don't think we have that much influence on users.

Most of you posting here don't fall into the above category of user. You are passionate readers who know what you like, or what you'd like to see, and how the current comics are doing at meeting that. You buy the comics, sometimes out of habit, or because you do like to consume this media for your Transformers fix. The review in this case, pretty much just gives us a way to start building conversations, if needed.

I think Scotty does a really nice job of analyzing Transformers literature, as many of you do, too. Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with his takes on it, that's what conversations are about. You all know that good discussions come about because one person said something they thought and then another person introduces their point of view based on their thinking and experiences, and away we go, we have ideas flowing and dialogue! If they are respectful of each other, and actually hearing each other out, it works really well!

Like many of you, I do personally love back stories containing Cybertronian history. Ever since Dreamwave's War Within series (but even before that with issues of Marvel and UK comics, or episodes of the cartoons that take us back in time like 'War Dawn'), I've always wanted more. I'm not sure really why, maybe, because it makes the whole world that we're currently reading about/viewing seem a little more solid. I also like to see what characters show up and have a role in events that have transpired. I like seeing their pre-Earth alt modes and looks.

Sadly, I didn't have anything to really offer Scotty about this issue when I read it and he was writing the review. It did feel very familiar, which is what I shared. Well, I think I said, "not much happened again" and based on the current situation with the comics, I wasn't looking for this so much (Orion and Megatron's Point Break adventure), as I was looking to see what actually happened with Rubble at the end of the last issue. I also know, I'm not in charge of timeline, nor do I know overall how this issue will fit in. SO in looking back it may end up being perfectly timed.

Thanks for the remarks. I do enjoy seeing what others think because I often get an idea of things that I might have missed, or things I might not have thought of. I'm glad some are enjoying the series, some are giving it a chance, some are disagreeing with what's been said about the issue, and some are supporting what's been said in the review.


On a side note, comic review staff has thinned tremendously. Issues every two weeks are taxing in trying to come up with more to say about Transformers content that has been a (mostly) slow simmer.




If you might be interested in being a comic reviewer on Seibertron, we are looking to get some more dedicated reviewers again. Share your review of issue #7 in two weeks. You can e-mail it to me (PDF or e-mail text) at tt24@seibertron.com. I'll share what I get with ryan (seibertron) and the other comics, podcast, and staff, and we'll see where it goes from there.

Thanks for keeping the conversation going! -Old Timer Tigetrack

[Tigertrack]

On the topic of issue six.

I made an account to vent and give my two cents on the issue.
IDW 2005 wasn't perfect so stop acting like it was. Is it better than this? Of course, but that's like comparing the acting ability of an eleven-year old up-and-comer with Robert Downey Jr.
I miss James, but I miss Elegant Chaos, Chaos Theory, Remain in Light, and just pre-Dying of the Light James. So basically pre-Revolution where everything went to crap in all corners of IDW because of bad editorial and higher-up choices.
James, as he's said, is done with Transformers for now so we need to get over it.

Now onto the issue: I liked it. Gave me Exodus flashbacks with the two being friends. I find the art nice and reminiscent of the early Windblade issues(idk if same artist), and the scene in space? I loved it. No, nothing will beat Chromedome reuniting with Rewind, but that had years of build up.
Yes, I think perhaps following up with useless character--I mean Rubble's(hopeful) death would have been the best way to go, but to me this is nice. Yes the first few issues were slow, but it could be said that slow is better than fast-paced non-stop events going on in other comics*cough*Marvel*cough*. The art was better, we got some backstory on Orion and Megatron, we got some more lore with Codexa and the Nominus thing.
Not much they could do with their relationship that hasn't been done, guys.
Brothers, Bayverse. Strangers, G1. Acquaintances turned adversaries, IDW 2005. Friends, Aligned continuity and Exodus. Not much to do. At least they're keeping things familiar with Archivist and Miner/Gladiator.

Yes, I think past issue one has been very, very slow. I blame that on a useless character--I mean Rubble's prolonged existence, but that's just my invalid opinion.
I personally liked issue six, and would love for this to turn out somewhat like Griffith and Guts relationship in the anime "Berserk." Not...entirely like that, mind you, but the same feeling of brothers turned hated enemies due to clashing ideals and one's overwhelming desire for power to help bring about their dream.
I think this will be a slow trek, but a worthwhile one. People always wanted peaceful pre-war Cybertron and I've seen people always wanting to go over the entire fall of Cybertron. This will be long, but I think that payoff of Orion and Megatron turning into enemies will be worth it. We just need to endure with the literal universe-building the man is doing and appreciate that Nautica is now a mainstay.

I think everyone here is looking to be able to say that when we are much further along in the series, no doubt.

[Rodimus Prime]

The best TF comic of this millenia is an all dialogue issue : https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... era/42653/

That's your opinion, certainly not fact.

Of course, that's written in the begining of the article. Since when can anything taste related be factual?

Okay, I was just making sure. I don't care for others' opinions to be forced on me in general, that's all. Maybe I missed something...?

Anyway, I also agree that prequel stories are something a lot of fans would find interesting, which is why some of us were looking forward to this, and when it didn't live up to expectations, the disappointment was amplified.

[Burn]

Guess it’s just me. I liked this issue a lot. I enjoy seeing the origin of these characters and their peaceful interactions and debates. I don’t care about about them shooting each other. I really like seeing Optimus and Megatron acting civil to eachother a lot.

Except to me, this is nothing new. Their friendship has been covered, maybe not as much in depth as this, but it's been done.

I've given this book six issues, and it's done nothing to really hold my attention, if I wasn't a Transformers fan I would have given up on it.

It's just an incredibly slow story, most comic books you have a pay off, or you can see where things are going, but I can't see where this book his headed, I can't see an incentive for myself, and most likely others, to want to keep reading this book.

[snavej]

That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

They have liquid metal faces and can shape-shift their size stop pulling hairs

This isn't a 'hair', it's a major problem. Don't be so dismissive. It's insulting.

The only way the 'captive moon' would work is if they used gigantic anti-gravity generators, as per the Cybertron mould in the previous continuity. If they do this, why bother with a tether at all? The anti-gravity could do the job infinitely better.

[sol magnus]

That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

They have liquid metal faces and can shape-shift their size stop pulling hairs

This isn't a 'hair', it's a major problem. Don't be so dismissive. It's insulting.

The only way the 'captive moon' would work is if they used gigantic anti-gravity generators, as per the Cybertron mould in the previous continuity. If they do this, why bother with a tether at all? The anti-gravity could do the job infinitely better.

Not to be difficult or insulting, but why wouldn't it work in an advanced technology civilization (to put it mildly)?

It's science fiction indistinguishable from magic. It works because they say it does.

[Randomhero]

That tether linking Cybertron and its moon is way too thin. Even made of the toughest possible material, it would soon snap. Even if the two celestial bodies were perfectly balanced in their movements, the wind would strain the connecting structure and result in failure after a few months or years. Also, one has to consider things like intense sunlight, cosmic rays and meteorites. Such 'orbital towers' are designed to reach smaller satellites, not moons. Sorry Brian!

They have liquid metal faces and can shape-shift their size stop pulling hairs

This isn't a 'hair', it's a major problem. Don't be so dismissive. It's insulting.

The only way the 'captive moon' would work is if they used gigantic anti-gravity generators, as per the Cybertron mould in the previous continuity. If they do this, why bother with a tether at all? The anti-gravity could do the job infinitely better.

Not to be difficult or insulting, but why wouldn't it work in an advanced technology civilization (to put it mildly)?

It's science fiction indistinguishable from magic. It works because they say it does.

Exactly. This is a franchise with a giant planet eating robot Satan that can take a damaged near death character and reformat them with godly powers. Who cares about the physics of an elevator that’s connecting a planet to a moon.

It’s a 100% splitting hairs and finding something to complain about

[Stargrave]

Seibertronians now listed at Previewsworld are images for alternate covers for Transformers issues #7 and #8. Issue #7 is due in at your local comic book shop by June 12, 2019 and is listed for SRP: $3.99. The issue cover also states that a Transformers Trading Card Game booster pack will also be included. Although unable to further verify at this time it is presumed this will not be a part of the Siege wave since that is set to release at the end of June. Listed are the CVR Christian Ward (variant cover A) and the 10-copy retailer incentive cover by Guido Guidi.

We also have a new cover for issue #8, the Jeffrey Veregge 10 copy incentive cover.

Let us know your thoughts below!

When another body shows up, Chromia and Prowl feel the pressure to get answers. Bumblebee, meanwhile, applies for a new job-as a bodyguard. But first, he has to impress Elita-1.” The article further states that a “New story begins here! A brand-new era of Transformers!

[leokearon]

Buy a pack of cards and get a free comic

[ZeroWolf]

Is that a buck Rodgers starfighter I see in that scenic cover?

[sol magnus]

Is that a buck Rodgers starfighter I see in that scenic cover?

Unmistakably.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

For all you comic fans and Shockwave fans out there, we have some good news! The John Gallagher cover for issue #4 of the new IDW Transformers ongoing has now gone live and is available for order. The Gallagher cover features Shockwave, and comes in 2 different variants. The "Battle Ready" version is the clean version of the cover and features Shockwave ready for combat; this version is limited to 600 pieces. The "Battle Damage" version features a bunch of new flame details along with some pretty significant damage to Shockwave himself; this version is limited to 500 pieces.

For you US residents, you can order these on Comics Mint, and you Canadian readers can get it from Mutant Beaver Comics.

Check them out below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

[Stargrave]

That looks AWESOME

I love his Shockwave pistol I want that thing. If ever they did Shockwave in a Voyager scale this would make way cool box art. Always love Shockwave news - thank you sir!

[SgtNateV]

Ugh, does this guy do anything that isn't traced?

[Rodimus Prime]

That looks AWESOME

I love his Shockwave pistol I want that thing. If ever they did Shockwave in a Voyager scale this would make way cool box art. Always love Shockwave news - thank you sir!

That IS Shockwave in Voyager scale. Yeah, he was sold as a leader due to all the extra crap that came with him, but the figure itself that this rendering is based on is a Voyager sized figure.

[Stargrave]

Oh for sure I meant if they stripped down all the leader armor and just released him with like a mini Shockwave blaster. I think that would make so many fans happy. I’m fine with the leader class I’m probably of the minority who dig the Doctor Shocktapus look

[Rodimus Prime]

Oh for sure I meant if they stripped down all the leader armor and just released him with like a mini Shockwave blaster. I think that would make so many fans happy. I’m fine with the leader class I’m probably of the minority who dig the Doctor Shocktapus look

I see what you mean. Yeah, I wouldn't have minded that either. I wouldn't get it now, since I already bought the 'leader' version, but I guess you can try having the small Shockwave that came with the MP figure and see if that works, or maybe the CW legends one.

[ZeroWolf]

A Bold New Era Continues! Today we bring you a three page preview from #7 of IDWs Transformers reboot! This comes via Apple's Book website (R.I.P. iTunes).

In this small preview we see Bumblebee staring at the sun when Windblade appears...and that's pretty much it. Check out the preview for yourself below, which we have mirrored for your convenience!

Publisher's description of IDW Transformers #7

When another body shows up, Chromia and Prowl feel the pressure to get answers. Bumblebee, meanwhile, applies for a new job—as a bodyguard. But first, he has to impress Elita-1.

What do you think of these events? Are you looking forward to reading this issue? Click here for our take on issue #6 and share your opinions in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

[ScottyP]