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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu May 02, 2019 7:24 pm

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sol magnus wrote:So, the overall complaint is that it's taking too long?

I'm kind of liking the nuance, but it's not necessarily the Nuance I want to see (if that makes any sense). Still, I'm not "bored", I'm waiting. Part of Transformers is the shooting and punching, and that's not happening. Maybe that's what people are finding "boring"?

It's moving at such a slow pace, it's not a lack of action, it's a lack of anything really. we're getting 2 issues a month but it feels like we are moving at half the pace for that.

The art also doesn't help, there is so much you can tell in your story by art, with the characters and expressions and background, and that is not there either.

It just, hasn't dropped anything. Cyclonus is about as close as we have got to something interesting. I want to learn more, but the pace, it's dragging
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Cybertronic Spree Homage on Variant Cover for IDW Transformers 6

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 06, 2019 10:41 am

Have you heard of Cybertronic Spree? It's a Transformers themed band with great costumes and we have written about them before, encouraging you to check them out. They will be featured/homaged on a variant cover for Transformers 6 with Arcee and the gang rocking it out. This is an exclusive for the Greater Austin Comic Con. You can see the cover below along with the following details of the convention:

Come out to Greater Austin Comic Con this Father's Day weekend (June 14th- 15th, &16th) and celebrate with us! Give this gift to dad that the entire family gets to enjoy! — at H-E-B Center at Cedar Park.


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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Stryker P28 » Mon May 06, 2019 11:31 am

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Grimlock in the back is H I L A R I O U S
I love all the little details and characters like frenzy on the drums and Spike on the guitar
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 06, 2019 12:43 pm

Stryker P28 wrote:Grimlock in the back is H I L A R I O U S
I love all the little details and characters like frenzy on the drums and Spike on the guitar

Frenzy plays drums in the actual band

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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby boyatlarge » Mon May 06, 2019 1:03 pm

And did you see their Kickstarter to record their homage covers to CD? Got their backing+ in less than 24 hours:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/th ... rmers-1986
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby LordBludgeon » Mon May 06, 2019 3:31 pm

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Great cover and tribute! I Also noticed that Hot Rod is using Transformers Animated Lazerbeak in his Guitar form. :)

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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby DeathReviews » Mon May 06, 2019 6:55 pm

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Shockwave is in the band too, but I don't see him anywhere. What a burn! I guess Frenzy (or is it Rumble) should be glad that he made it in the shot, even if he is under Arcee's..... diodes.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Supreme Convoy » Mon May 06, 2019 10:10 pm

Ha! That's a lot of fun.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby spiderbob007 » Tue May 07, 2019 9:01 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Shockwave is in the band too, but I don't see him anywhere. What a burn! I guess Frenzy (or is it Rumble) should be glad that he made it in the shot, even if he is under Arcee's..... diodes.


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iTunes Preview for IDW Transformers #5

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed May 08, 2019 7:53 pm

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Thanks to iTunes we have our preview for the next upcoming Transformers comic, #5! Issue #5 gives us a look at Megatron as he gives yet another speech, this time done as a recording and aired out to all of Cybertron. We also get a bit more of a look at Chromia as she and Sideswipe start looking into members of society going underground.

And finally, and adorably, we have Prowl playing around with what looks like a potential pet green pterodactyl. Hmm, now could this be a simple coincidence, or Siege related (Pteraxadon)? Let us know what you think!

These pages are also our first glimpse at interior line work from Anna Malkova, so check it out below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby steve2275 » Wed May 08, 2019 8:00 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Wed May 08, 2019 8:37 pm

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Well, I guess I now have to buy a Siege Prowl specifically for the purpose of having pteraxadon perch on his arm.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Nexus Knight » Wed May 08, 2019 9:31 pm

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This... this newest is awesome. I've never thought of Cybertron having organic lifeforms, but it makes so much sense (I know, they've been introduced before in this series). Just seeing Prowl with the dinobird is great.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first we're seeing of Megatron's actual politics? Beyond the surface "things need to change". He's basically saying that the Autobots as a ruling class are being too restrictive? Am I the only one interpreting this way?
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed May 08, 2019 9:39 pm

Nexus Knight wrote:This... this newest is awesome. I've never thought of Cybertron having organic lifeforms, but it makes so much sense (I know, they've been introduced before in this series). Just seeing Prowl with the dinobird is great.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first we're seeing of Megatron's actual politics? Beyond the surface "things need to change". He's basically saying that the Autobots as a ruling class are being too restrictive? Am I the only one interpreting this way?


He’s been saying that throughout the series in his scenes
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Wed May 08, 2019 10:02 pm

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Great, now I need a Pteraxodon to go with my Prowl..

I wonder if thats a genuine Earth import, establishing a relative time stamp for this stoyry, or some alien knock-off dinobird? If it is, its a clever way to say “Millions of Years ago, by SHOWING instead of telling.
Nexus Knight wrote:This... this newest is awesome. I've never thought of Cybertron having organic lifeforms, but it makes so much sense (I know, they've been introduced before in this series). Just seeing Prowl with the dinobird is great.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first we're seeing of Megatron's actual politics? Beyond the surface "things need to change". He's basically saying that the Autobots as a ruling class are being too restrictive? Am I the only one interpreting this way?
Second time, the first in depth look was the end of Book 2 or 3 when someone fired on Megatron during his speech, but this is a much more in depth look at Cybertron’s past and past politics than we have gotten.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Coptur » Thu May 09, 2019 2:35 am

Honestly i'm happy for those that are enjoying this.


..but here we go again the "Autobots are bad wah wah" this is NOT Megatron.

Megatron should be a power hungry **** no more no less. Idw please please stop justifying your villain it ruins your villain sometimes people are just ****holes simple as that.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby spiderbob007 » Thu May 09, 2019 4:41 am

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Coptur wrote:Honestly i'm happy for those that are enjoying this.

..but here we go again the "Autobots are bad wah wah" this is NOT Megatron.

Megatron should be a power hungry **** no more no less. Idw please please stop justifying your villain it ruins your villain sometimes people are just ****holes simple as that.


Every a-hole is a product of nature and environment and no two are alike. Batman and his rouges gallery are a case study.

Batman = a-hole for justice
Joker = a-hole for chaos
Riddler = smart a-hole
Penguin = greedy a-hole
Catwoman = sneaky a-hole
Poison Ivy = environmentalist a-hole

None of them were born a-holes, it took time and circumstance to make them the archetypal a-holes that they all are.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Thu May 09, 2019 4:44 am

Coptur wrote:Honestly i'm happy for those that are enjoying this.


..but here we go again the "Autobots are bad wah wah" this is NOT Megatron.

Megatron should be a power hungry **** no more no less. Idw please please stop justifying your villain it ruins your villain sometimes people are just ****holes simple as that.



Yeeeeeeah Megatron was a one note villain for over 20 years that just cackled and screamed domination with no depth. No thanks. I’d rather have characters that are interesting and have a good background.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Coptur » Thu May 09, 2019 5:46 am

Randomhero wrote:
Coptur wrote:Honestly i'm happy for those that are enjoying this.


..but here we go again the "Autobots are bad wah wah" this is NOT Megatron.

Megatron should be a power hungry **** no more no less. Idw please please stop justifying your villain it ruins your villain sometimes people are just ****holes simple as that.



Yeeeeeeah Megatron was a one note villain for over 20 years that just cackled and screamed domination with no depth. No thanks. I’d rather have characters that are interesting and have a good background.


Yeah I can see and understand the container argument.

but if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Making your heroes out to be the bad guy faction isn't good writing either.

Megatron isn't Magneto and and should never be Magneto and doesn't need those layers.

By robbing the Leader-1 / Cy-Kill backstory you aren't doing anything new.

Glad you're liking this take on Megatron though, i guess this just isn't for me anymore.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Thu May 09, 2019 6:10 am

Coptur wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Coptur wrote:Honestly i'm happy for those that are enjoying this.


..but here we go again the "Autobots are bad wah wah" this is NOT Megatron.

Megatron should be a power hungry **** no more no less. Idw please please stop justifying your villain it ruins your villain sometimes people are just ****holes simple as that.



Yeeeeeeah Megatron was a one note villain for over 20 years that just cackled and screamed domination with no depth. No thanks. I’d rather have characters that are interesting and have a good background.


Yeah I can see and understand the container argument.

but if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Making your heroes out to be the bad guy faction isn't good writing either.

Megatron isn't Magneto and and should never be Magneto and doesn't need those layers.

By robbing the Leader-1 / Cy-Kill backstory you aren't doing anything new.

Glad you're liking this take on Megatron though, i guess this just isn't for me anymore.


Except it was broke which made those characters not that memorable. When a character just cackles and screams evil things. That’s not great. It worked for a children’s cartoon 35 years ago but not nowadays.

This is also a Megatron that hasnt started the war yet. It’s inevitable he will lose his way but guess what? That’s how most villains start.

The most memorable villains in media have tragic origins that made them who they were. Even going back to transformers with Beast Wars Megatron. A character that was evil but he was evil because he was created on the side of the war that lost and grew up oppressed and became obsessed with changing his heritage.

What you’re wanting is the very thing that people have complained about with the first half of the marvel movies. That the villains were just cookie cutter one dimensional characters that were evil to just be evil and was a big criticism for some of those movies.

Nobody wants what you’re asking for because it doesn’t work
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Coptur » Thu May 09, 2019 7:04 am

Randomhero wrote:
Coptur wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Coptur wrote:Honestly i'm happy for those that are enjoying this.


..but here we go again the "Autobots are bad wah wah" this is NOT Megatron.

Megatron should be a power hungry **** no more no less. Idw please please stop justifying your villain it ruins your villain sometimes people are just ****holes simple as that.



Yeeeeeeah Megatron was a one note villain for over 20 years that just cackled and screamed domination with no depth. No thanks. I’d rather have characters that are interesting and have a good background.


Yeah I can see and understand the container argument.

but if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Making your heroes out to be the bad guy faction isn't good writing either.

Megatron isn't Magneto and and should never be Magneto and doesn't need those layers.

By robbing the Leader-1 / Cy-Kill backstory you aren't doing anything new.

Glad you're liking this take on Megatron though, i guess this just isn't for me anymore.


Except it was broke which made those characters not that memorable. When a character just cackles and screams evil things. That’s not great. It worked for a children’s cartoon 35 years ago but not nowadays.

This is also a Megatron that hasnt started the war yet. It’s inevitable he will lose his way but guess what? That’s how most villains start.

The most memorable villains in media have tragic origins that made them who they were. Even going back to transformers with Beast Wars Megatron. A character that was evil but he was evil because he was created on the side of the war that lost and grew up oppressed and became obsessed with changing his heritage.

What you’re wanting is the very thing that people have complained about with the first half of the marvel movies. That the villains were just cookie cutter one dimensional characters that were evil to just be evil and was a big criticism for some of those movies.

Nobody wants what you’re asking for because it doesn’t work


I understand to take out the saturday morning cartoon element i agree but you shouldn't feel sorry for your villains. never.

I can see that but i doesn't stand for all villains Norman Osborn was nasty before he became the Green Goblin for example.

Now I think you have beast wars all wrong the Predacons were not 'oppressed' that was just the political dogma Megatron spouted to gain followers and to take total power for him self (sound familiar to a real life example) so much much so he wanted to kill the ultimate good in auto/max history to gain said power Optimus Prime. He was greying the lines between the Predacons and Maximals. It wasn't the maximals being evil the writers should not grey the lines between good and evil. People incredibly ticked off people with Hydra Captain America (rightly so) and the constant hero vs hero stories, no one wants that either.

Again not true Abomination had a full character arc (corrupted by power), Loki again not exactly a cookie cutter. Iron Monger a full nasty character arc. (i'll give you Malaketh but that film was rubbish anyway).

No one is asking for all villains to have multiple layers either. the writers to should refer back to budiansky's profiles for where the character came from imo.

I do appreciate your side though
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Thu May 09, 2019 8:02 am

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
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Coptur wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Coptur wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Coptur wrote:Honestly i'm happy for those that are enjoying this.


..but here we go again the "Autobots are bad wah wah" this is NOT Megatron.

Megatron should be a power hungry **** no more no less. Idw please please stop justifying your villain it ruins your villain sometimes people are just ****holes simple as that.



Yeeeeeeah Megatron was a one note villain for over 20 years that just cackled and screamed domination with no depth. No thanks. I’d rather have characters that are interesting and have a good background.


Yeah I can see and understand the container argument.

but if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Making your heroes out to be the bad guy faction isn't good writing either.

Megatron isn't Magneto and and should never be Magneto and doesn't need those layers.

By robbing the Leader-1 / Cy-Kill backstory you aren't doing anything new.

Glad you're liking this take on Megatron though, i guess this just isn't for me anymore.


Except it was broke which made those characters not that memorable. When a character just cackles and screams evil things. That’s not great. It worked for a children’s cartoon 35 years ago but not nowadays.

This is also a Megatron that hasnt started the war yet. It’s inevitable he will lose his way but guess what? That’s how most villains start.

The most memorable villains in media have tragic origins that made them who they were. Even going back to transformers with Beast Wars Megatron. A character that was evil but he was evil because he was created on the side of the war that lost and grew up oppressed and became obsessed with changing his heritage.

What you’re wanting is the very thing that people have complained about with the first half of the marvel movies. That the villains were just cookie cutter one dimensional characters that were evil to just be evil and was a big criticism for some of those movies.

Nobody wants what you’re asking for because it doesn’t work


I understand to take out the saturday morning cartoon element i agree but you shouldn't feel sorry for your villains. never.

I can see that but i doesn't stand for all villains Norman Osborn was nasty before he became the Green Goblin for example.

Now I think you have beast wars all wrong the Predacons were not 'oppressed' that was just the political dogma Megatron spouted to gain followers and to take total power for him self (sound familiar to a real life example) so much much so he wanted to kill the ultimate good in auto/max history to gain said power Optimus Prime. He was greying the lines between the Predacons and Maximals. It wasn't the maximals being evil the writers should not grey the lines between good and evil. People incredibly ticked off people with Hydra Captain America (rightly so) and the constant hero vs hero stories, no one wants that either.

Again not true Abomination had a full character arc (corrupted by power), Loki again not exactly a cookie cutter. Iron Monger a full nasty character arc. (i'll give you Malaketh but that film was rubbish anyway).

No one is asking for all villains to have multiple layers either. the writers to should refer back to budiansky's profiles for where the character came from imo.

I do appreciate your side though

Loki i will give you. Didnt see Hulk, But Iron Monger was the first in a line of Marvel Villians that were just mirrors of their heroes. Iron Monger had Charisma, and that made him memorable, but he didnt jsve an arc. Sn arc implies change. He juat backslid. The guy from Iron Man 2 had more of an arc, we knew his father had been potentially burned by thr Starks previously. But it sounds like Obafiah Iron Monger Stain is exactly who you want as a Megatron. But IDW is building towards another villian like, to continue the metaphors, Thanos.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Thu May 09, 2019 8:02 am

But they were oppressed. The episode that introduced the Tripredacus Council explained that after the war the predacons were oppressed in ways and were treated as second class citizens. And BW megatrons plan by the end of season two was to wipe out not just the autobots and maximals by killing Optimus Prime it was to wipe himself out so his ancestors ancestors would become the victors of the war. That very act would destroy himself too and he knew it.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Coptur » Thu May 09, 2019 8:50 am

Randomhero wrote:But they were oppressed. The episode that introduced the Tripredacus Council explained that after the war the predacons were oppressed in ways and were treated as second class citizens. And BW megatrons plan by the end of season two was to wipe out not just the autobots and maximals by killing Optimus Prime it was to wipe himself out so his ancestors ancestors would become the victors of the war. That very act would destroy himself too and he knew it.


The Tripredous council no doubt 'believed' that and told the masses the same, don't forget they had their own plans in motion which are some what put on hold by BW Megatron.

Megatron didn't fall victim to the time-nado his plan would've killed only Autobots whereas later on Tarantulas saw the opportunity to do the same but to both factions (in turn serving the Tripredacus Council) by wiping out the Ark with all on board.
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Re: IDW Transformers Version 2.0 General Discussion Thread

Postby Coptur » Thu May 09, 2019 8:50 am

Randomhero wrote:But they were oppressed. The episode that introduced the Tripredacus Council explained that after the war the predacons were oppressed in ways and were treated as second class citizens. And BW megatrons plan by the end of season two was to wipe out not just the autobots and maximals by killing Optimus Prime it was to wipe himself out so his ancestors ancestors would become the victors of the war. That very act would destroy himself too and he knew it.


The Tripredous council no doubt 'believed' that and told the masses the same, don't forget they had their own plans in motion which are some what put on hold by BW Megatron.

Megatron didn't fall victim to the time-nado his plan would've killed only Autobots whereas later on Tarantulas saw the opportunity to do the same but to both factions (in turn serving the Tripredacus Council) by wiping out the Ark with all on board.
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