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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Rated X » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:33 pm

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If nobody can get it right for you, do it your damn self. Let's see how well you fair at it. >:oP



Sounds like a job for MMC. I would like to see them do all the dinobots...
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:34 pm

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Noideaforaname wrote:Yeesh, what's with all the negativity towards complaints? Most everyone who's not satisfied have given thought-out reasons as to why they aren't totally satisfied. Plus, it's completely unfair to lump them all together as "whiny haters who are never satisfied with anything."
Show me one complaint that doesn't fall into the category of, "It doesn't fit my views of how Grimlock should be."
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby MasterSoundBlaster » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:10 pm

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Yeah I'm with you all now. I'm Tired of trying to come up with reasons to help explain things to others on this issue. I'm giving ol' Grimlock the green light for my collection and for those of you not getting him, thanks for keeping a well deserved Voyager on the shelves of the toystore for me.

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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Breakdown 2099 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:26 pm

I'm not sold on Blaster. That Ravage/Steeljaw mold looks like it has a bad case of anorexia and scoliosis and is my least favorite. I might purchase him to square off against his Decepticon counterpart. Soundwave's feeling all alone...
Grimlock's robot mode is pleasing to me, his alt mode however, isn't. I'm not going to say anything about what I would do to improve, because I wouldn't be able to. He'll be displayed in robot mode, so the alt mode isn't much of an issue. I like the character, it's just a shame that the other four don't get as much HasTak lovin'. A whole set would've been fantastic, oh well, c'est la vie

Red Alert is a must even if it's just for his mental-collapse spark accessories! The more I see of this crazy little bot, the more I want him. Stay and guard the bunker, Inferno!
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:12 am

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Breakdown 2099 wrote:That Ravage/Steeljaw mold looks like it has a bad case of anorexia and scoliosis and is my least favorite.
Steeljaw's mistransformed in these pics.

Breakdown 2099 wrote:Grimlock's robot mode is pleasing to me, his alt mode however, isn't. I'm not going to say anything about what I would do to improve, because I wouldn't be able to. He'll be displayed in robot mode, so the alt mode isn't much of an issue. I like the character, it's just a shame that the other four don't get as much HasTak lovin'. A whole set would've been fantastic, oh well, c'est la vie
Hasbro hasn't said "No" to making the other four. There's still a chance for them to come later.

Individually, that is. A full set of all five would cost well over $100 bucks. ;)

Breakdown 2099 wrote:Red Alert is a must even if it's just for his mental-collapse spark accessories! The more I see of this crazy little bot, the more I want him. Stay and guard the bunker, Inferno!
Now I want to see MP Alert next to Henkei! Henkei! Inferno. :-B
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Breakdown 2099 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:51 am

Sabrblade wrote:Individually, that is. A full set of all five would cost well over $100 bucks. ;)


$100+? US maybe, rest of the world try $195 to $245. (based on Voyagers priced at $39 to $49). I'd love to live in the US. I'd have twice the collection I do now. :grin:
But lets not digress, I've got the Ravage mold and i don't find him aesthetically appealing. That's why he's left in his case while his brethren are out to play. I don't recall seeing all 5 Dino's since G1, of course, I'm probably wrong, but I just can't remember. I wonder if there's a reason for that? :-?
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby King Kuuga » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:38 am

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That Bot wrote:People complain about the legs being small and the tail being big. They're the same part. If they made the legs bigger, the tail would be goddamn gigantic. If they made the tail smaller, the legs would be skeletal. You can't have it both ways on this one.

Thank you!

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Maybe they should have stuck with the classic G1 transformation sequence. Was there really a need to "neo-ize" the transformation ? He's a T-Rex, not a new car.

This is not G1 Grimlock. This is not meant to be G1 Grimlock. While it can be used as G1 Grimlock, that's not who it's supposed to be, so stop trying to hold it to the standards of G1 Grimlock. It's a T-rex that turns into a robot by turning its tail into robot legs and its rex legs into robot arms. It's gold and silver and it has a black head with red eyes. What more do you want?

And I totally forgot about the wings. Damn he looks naked now to me without them. Eventually sombody will do the Dinobots right.

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MP Grimlock was an update in my opinion. The ony problem with it was that it wasnt voyager sized. MP figures are for coffee tables in a man-cave, not large scale season 1 collections.

There is seriously no pleasing you, is there?

If I-gear were to KO MP Grimlock and shrink it to voyager size, nobody would give a crap about this FOC figure.

I would, because it would be crazy cheaper than an Igear KO and it much more accurately resembles FOC Grimlock than the MP mold does. I imagine half the people in this thread would say the same thing as me on this point.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Dorkimus » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:22 am

Why should everybody like this? Why aren't those who praise this, forced to explain why do they like this ugly grimlock figure? Why should I say anything else than "it's ugly". Because that's what it is :lol:

I don't have this rather sheepish attitude that we should only agree that everything hasbro makes is nice and cool. These are actually even more expencive here in europe than what they are in US. Deluxe sized robots are like 20 €, so I pick rather carefully what I actually want. This grimlock is something I don't like. It doesn't even look like the game version. Not to mention that unlike in some of those earlier promo pics he was at leat shiny and all, but now he just looks like dull grey and sand yellow...and proportions are just awry.

For some reason I find it really difficult to say any negative things about hastak or their products here in seibertron. It is just beyond me why some people are like to force-feed me this idea that I shouldn't/can't complain about this one. Everyone is entitled to have their opinion. Besides like some of you say, it is just a toy. So why defend it so hard?

Blaster on the other hand looks better and might be worth buying. See, not all is negative, but I just refuse to like this grimlock-shit :lol:
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby King Kuuga » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:40 am

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Dorkimus wrote:Why should everybody like this? Why aren't those who praise this, forced to explain why do they like this ugly grimlock figure? Why should I say anything else than "it's ugly". Because that's what it is :lol:

You don't have to like it. But generally you're expected to support your dislike of a thing with valid reasons why you dislike it if you're engaging in discussion.

This grimlock is something I don't like. It doesn't even look like the game version.

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Are we looking at the same toy? It's FOC Grimlock to the letter in bot mode, and in T-Rex mode the only shortcoming is how they moved the thrusters/knees to the base of the tail from the back section and had to shorten the tail overall to make it work as a toy. Sure, the colors leave something to be desired, but:

Not to mention that unlike in some of those earlier promo pics he was at leat shiny and all, but now he just looks like dull grey and sand yellow...and proportions are just awry.

Stock photos are always airbrushed and doctored up to make the figure look shinier. Nothing new here. And the strange proportions are a side effect of not being able to cheat like hell with the transformation the way the game models do.

For some reason I find it really difficult to say any negative things about hastak or their products here in seibertron. It is just beyond me why some people are like to force-feed me this idea that I shouldn't/can't complain about this one. Everyone is entitled to have their opinion. Besides like some of you say, it is just a toy. So why defend it so hard?
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Postby njb902 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:45 am

It's a two edged sword. Discussing something is fine, but I don't see how you can disprove someone's asthetic preferences.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby King Kuuga » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:10 am

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You can't, because opinions are opinions, but you can disprove a person's assertions. I can disprove that this toy doesn't look like the character it represents. I can't disprove that it's good or bad.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Rhinox23 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:15 am

As it has already been stated, I believe the argument over FOC Grimlock comes from those who are trying to fit him into their "classics" shelf. For those of us who actually played the game, he's a great, no perfect, fit for the FOC shelf! He looks as similar to his game model as any of the other FOC figures so far. In fact, he may resemble his game model better than all of the FOC figures save Starscream and Kickback.

I do wish his paint scheme was shiny gold and silver like the photos they showed us before, but I know those are always doctored up. Besides, I think Takara may release their version with the shiny paint should you really want that look (which I may get since I was thinking of getting two of these guys anyway).

Back to his overall look being pretty spot on to his FOC game model, this is the aligned version of Grimlock, which is a completely new version. For those of you interested, there is the TFP Rage of the Dinobots comic to connect Season 2 and 3 of TFP. This version of Grimlock also closely resembles the comic iteration as well with no wings, chest style, leg style and arms. So, to me they did a great job of giving us a figure of this aligned representation of Grimlock.

Thus, it seems to me that the only thing that would turn people off would be that he doesn't work for a G1/classic shelf. Otherwise, he's going to be front and center of my FOC shelf.

One last note, if FOC Grimlock doesn't sell well (which it looks like he won't be the hotcake I thought he would be) then I think we can kiss the possibility of getting the rest of the Dinobot team goodbye. That would be a shame because their FOC models are AMAZING! Dare I say, even better and more bad ass than their G1 selves. Really, FOC has given us the BEST version of ALL of the Dinobots to date. I hope those of us who played/enjoyed the game and are continuing to enjoy the aligned continuity of TFP, comics, etc. will support this guy so maybe the rest of the Dinobots will see the light of day. I remember reading that one of the decision makers at Hasbro said that he would like to see all of the FOC Dinobots become Voyager toys (from an old thread on here, I'm not going to try and dig it up). :PRAY:
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:10 pm

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Rhinox23 wrote:For those of you interested, there is the TFP Rage of the Dinobots comic to connect Season 2 and 3 of TFP. This version of Grimlock also closely resembles the comic iteration as well with no wings, chest style, leg style and arms. So, to me they did a great job of giving us a figure of this aligned representation of Grimlock.


Not only bridging TFP seasons, but FoC to Prime. So...I didn't expect them to look drastically different from their game models, but Grimlock is the one that hasn't been altered as much. Fitting for both your Prime and FoC shelves.

I remember reading that one of the decision makers at Hasbro said that he would like to see all of the FOC Dinobots become Voyager toys (from an old thread on here, I'm not going to try and dig it up). :PRAY:


Yeah, but I'll be pessimistic about that. >:oP
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Va'al » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:11 pm

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http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/additional-transformers-generations-fall-of-cybertron-voyager-images-t91444.php

New images, better lighting, confusing size comparisons but definitely gave me what I wanted!
Will be buying FoC Grimlock without a doubt, all issues are cleared for me.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Rated X » Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:20 pm

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Rated X wrote:
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That Bot wrote:People complain about the legs being small and the tail being big. They're the same part. If they made the legs bigger, the tail would be goddamn gigantic. If they made the tail smaller, the legs would be skeletal. You can't have it both ways on this one.

Thank you!

Listen if you don't like it, don't but it. No need to be ranting so much



Maybe they should have stuck with the classic G1 transformation sequence. Was there really a need to "neo-ize" the transformation ? He's a T-Rex, not a new car.

This is not G1 Grimlock. This is not meant to be G1 Grimlock. While it can be used as G1 Grimlock, that's not who it's supposed to be, so stop trying to hold it to the standards of G1 Grimlock. It's a T-rex that turns into a robot by turning its tail into robot legs and its rex legs into robot arms. It's gold and silver and it has a black head with red eyes. What more do you want?

And I totally forgot about the wings. Damn he looks naked now to me without them. Eventually sombody will do the Dinobots right.

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MP Grimlock was an update in my opinion. The ony problem with it was that it wasnt voyager sized. MP figures are for coffee tables in a man-cave, not large scale season 1 collections.

There is seriously no pleasing you, is there?

If I-gear were to KO MP Grimlock and shrink it to voyager size, nobody would give a crap about this FOC figure.

I would, because it would be crazy cheaper than an Igear KO and it much more accurately resembles FOC Grimlock than the MP mold does. I imagine half the people in this thread would say the same thing as me on this point.



Youre points are valid, but this figure has too many astethics of the Animated version for my taste. It's almost more TF Primish than Generations in my opinion. The head is the only thing I really like. Everything else just doesnt suit me. Ive explained my reasons why in previous posts. I think it's ugly. It seems the people who glorify this figure to be the 2nd coming of christ dont like me to be the devil's advocate.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby njb902 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:31 pm

Rated X wrote:
That Bot wrote:
Rated X wrote:
MasterSoundBlaster wrote:
That Bot wrote:People complain about the legs being small and the tail being big. They're the same part. If they made the legs bigger, the tail would be goddamn gigantic. If they made the tail smaller, the legs would be skeletal. You can't have it both ways on this one.

Thank you!

Listen if you don't like it, don't but it. No need to be ranting so much



Maybe they should have stuck with the classic G1 transformation sequence. Was there really a need to "neo-ize" the transformation ? He's a T-Rex, not a new car.

This is not G1 Grimlock. This is not meant to be G1 Grimlock. While it can be used as G1 Grimlock, that's not who it's supposed to be, so stop trying to hold it to the standards of G1 Grimlock. It's a T-rex that turns into a robot by turning its tail into robot legs and its rex legs into robot arms. It's gold and silver and it has a black head with red eyes. What more do you want?

And I totally forgot about the wings. Damn he looks naked now to me without them. Eventually sombody will do the Dinobots right.

:BANG_HEAD:
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MP Grimlock was an update in my opinion. The ony problem with it was that it wasnt voyager sized. MP figures are for coffee tables in a man-cave, not large scale season 1 collections.

There is seriously no pleasing you, is there?

If I-gear were to KO MP Grimlock and shrink it to voyager size, nobody would give a crap about this FOC figure.

I would, because it would be crazy cheaper than an Igear KO and it much more accurately resembles FOC Grimlock than the MP mold does. I imagine half the people in this thread would say the same thing as me on this point.



Youre points are valid, but this figure has too many astethics of the Animated version for my taste. It's almost more TF Primish than Generations in my opinion. The head is the only thing I really like. Everything else just doesnt suit me. Ive explained my reasons why in previous posts. I think it's ugly. It seems the people who glorify this figure to be the 2nd coming of christ dont like me to be the devil's advocate.


Well that's just not true, the last sentence anyways.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:40 pm

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Rated X wrote:
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Rated X wrote:
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That Bot wrote:People complain about the legs being small and the tail being big. They're the same part. If they made the legs bigger, the tail would be goddamn gigantic. If they made the tail smaller, the legs would be skeletal. You can't have it both ways on this one.

Thank you!

Listen if you don't like it, don't but it. No need to be ranting so much



Maybe they should have stuck with the classic G1 transformation sequence. Was there really a need to "neo-ize" the transformation ? He's a T-Rex, not a new car.

This is not G1 Grimlock. This is not meant to be G1 Grimlock. While it can be used as G1 Grimlock, that's not who it's supposed to be, so stop trying to hold it to the standards of G1 Grimlock. It's a T-rex that turns into a robot by turning its tail into robot legs and its rex legs into robot arms. It's gold and silver and it has a black head with red eyes. What more do you want?

And I totally forgot about the wings. Damn he looks naked now to me without them. Eventually sombody will do the Dinobots right.

:BANG_HEAD:
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MP Grimlock was an update in my opinion. The ony problem with it was that it wasnt voyager sized. MP figures are for coffee tables in a man-cave, not large scale season 1 collections.

There is seriously no pleasing you, is there?

If I-gear were to KO MP Grimlock and shrink it to voyager size, nobody would give a crap about this FOC figure.

I would, because it would be crazy cheaper than an Igear KO and it much more accurately resembles FOC Grimlock than the MP mold does. I imagine half the people in this thread would say the same thing as me on this point.



Youre points are valid, but this figure has too many astethics of the Animated version for my taste. It's almost more TF Primish than Generations in my opinion. The head is the only thing I really like. Everything else just doesnt suit me. Ive explained my reasons why in previous posts. I think it's ugly. It seems the people who glorify this figure to be the 2nd coming of christ dont like me to be the devil's advocate.


TFP's Rage of the Dinobots comic hardly changed Grimlock's game design. He rightfully has a Prime-ish design in that case.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby King Kuuga » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:08 am

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Youre points are valid, but this figure has too many astethics of the Animated version for my taste. It's almost more TF Primish than Generations in my opinion. The head is the only thing I really like. Everything else just doesnt suit me. Ive explained my reasons why in previous posts. I think it's ugly. It seems the people who glorify this figure to be the 2nd coming of christ dont like me to be the devil's advocate.

Generations doesn't have a defined aesthetic. Generations figures come from all over the Transformers spectrum. Aligned designs merge G1, Animated, and Movie aesthetics together. This is a figure of Aligned Grimlock, who meets that description. Furthermore, he works as a modernization of the G1 Grimlock design, which is what Classiscs aesthetics are supposed to do: modernize the designs. If you don't like the idea of using FOC Grimlock as Classics Grimlock, that's fine. The Masterpiece fits your stated ideal design of a classics Grimlock. But then you turn around and say it's too big. I have never seen the figure myself, so I don't know for certain how he scales, but Grimlock is supposed to be large anyway. So it seems to me you're being picky for the sake of being picky. You don't like Generations FOC Grimlock? That's fine. That's your opinion, you're entitled to it, you've given at least one good reason (it looks too much like Animated, which you don't like). But then you turn around and reject the perfect iteration of Grimlock as well and it's just......why? Is there no pleasing you?
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Dorkimus » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:37 am

That Bot wrote:Are we looking at the same toy? It's FOC Grimlock to the letter in bot mode, and in T-Rex mode the only shortcoming is how they moved the thrusters/knees to the base of the tail from the back section and had to shorten the tail overall to make it work as a toy. Sure, the colors leave something to be desired, but:


Well, I could ask you the same question. That is why this is matter of taste. Now that I have seen even more pictures and seen that those legs are just hollow from the behind, I like it even less.


One last note, if FOC Grimlock doesn't sell well (which it looks like he won't be the hotcake I thought he would be) then I think we can kiss the possibility of getting the rest of the Dinobot team goodbye. That would be a shame because their FOC models are AMAZING! Dare I say, even better and more bad ass than their G1 selves. Really, FOC has given us the BEST version of ALL of the Dinobots to date. I hope those of us who played/enjoyed the game and are continuing to enjoy the aligned continuity of TFP, comics, etc. will support this guy so maybe the rest of the Dinobots will see the light of day. I remember reading that one of the decision makers at Hasbro said that he would like to see all of the FOC Dinobots become Voyager toys (from an old thread on here, I'm not going to try and dig it up).


Sorry, but they most likely wont make all the other dinobots no matter how many copies of grimlock you buy. I'm sorry but not all of us see why we should somehow support hasbro. If they do something I like, then I buy it. But seriously, if you thought that they are making all the dinobots, you were punked by some mean individual :lol:
Hasbro isn't doing much fan service and hasn't it been mentioned several times that they don't even have a segment called collectors (or adult collectors). If they for some reason would make the whole freaking FOC dinobot team, I promise to buy them all no matter how ugly I find them :lol:
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Rhinox23 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:46 am

Dorkimus wrote:
One last note, if FOC Grimlock doesn't sell well (which it looks like he won't be the hotcake I thought he would be) then I think we can kiss the possibility of getting the rest of the Dinobot team goodbye. That would be a shame because their FOC models are AMAZING! Dare I say, even better and more bad ass than their G1 selves. Really, FOC has given us the BEST version of ALL of the Dinobots to date. I hope those of us who played/enjoyed the game and are continuing to enjoy the aligned continuity of TFP, comics, etc. will support this guy so maybe the rest of the Dinobots will see the light of day. I remember reading that one of the decision makers at Hasbro said that he would like to see all of the FOC Dinobots become Voyager toys (from an old thread on here, I'm not going to try and dig it up).


Sorry, but they most likely wont make all the other dinobots no matter how many copies of grimlock you buy. I'm sorry but not all of us see why we should somehow support hasbro. If they do something I like, then I buy it. But seriously, if you thought that they are making all the dinobots, you were punked by some mean individual :lol:
Hasbro isn't doing much fan service and hasn't it been mentioned several times that they don't even have a segment called collectors (or adult collectors). If they for some reason would make the whole freaking FOC dinobot team, I promise to buy them all no matter how ugly I find them :lol:


I couldn't disagree with you more. If Hasbro is on the fence about making the other Dinobots and if the best known and most loved one (Grimlock) doesn't sell, then they could pull the plug on further developing the others. It is a business after all and this just makes sense. Also, if you read my post accurately, I said I hope those that like this figure support it by purchasing it. I would never just beg someone to buy a figure they don't want, essentially wasting their money.

I was not "punked" by anyone. It was posted on this site and TFW2005. It was an interview with a marketing director or some similar title at Hasbro and he stated that he would like to see all 5 as Voyagers. It was said, it just might not come true. Additionally, Hasbro has the masterpiece line which is geared towards collectors...just look at the price tag.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Banjo-Tron » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:58 am

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Why do people keep jumping on those who for whatever reason do not like the figure? What's wrong with people having different opinions?

I would rather slag off (what is in my opinion) a poorly-designed figure than a bunch of people I know next to nothing about.

Some people dislike this iteration of Grimlock, get over it. You will not convert them.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby njb902 » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:48 am

Banjo-Tron wrote:Why do people keep jumping on those who for whatever reason do not like the figure? What's wrong with people having different opinions?

I would rather slag off (what is in my opinion) a poorly-designed figure than a bunch of people I know next to nothing about.

Some people dislike this iteration of Grimlock, get over it. You will not convert them.


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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Mkall » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:35 am

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Guess what folks? BBTS has Grimlock and Blaster up for preorder!

Case of 4 - $89.99
Grimlock and Blaster - 53.99
Grimlock - 23.99
No single Blaster though, sorry.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Banjo-Tron » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:48 am

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I arrived home yesterday and Grimlock was waiting for me. I must say that in hand, this figure is quite a lot nicer than those early photos led me to believe. The silver plastic is quite nice, but I'm not a fan of the pale gold, which looks washed out in my opinion. The gimmick works impressively, but I feel that the surrounding plastic needed to be thicker to accentuate the effect, seeing as in dinosaur mode the entire head lights up like a christmas tree.

He is about the same height as Voyager classics Megatron, albeit lighter. The articulation is very good, with a ball-jointed head (although his chin prevents much downwards movement) good movement at the shoulder, wrist swivel, elbow joints, bicep swivel, decent hip articulation, thigh swivel, knee joints. No waist swivel though. Because of the transformation, the arms can also be posed inwardly or outwardly at the shoulder. Most of the joints are like little cogs, and these will obviously wear down with excessive use - a poor man's ratchet joint.

My biggest worry with this figure was gappiness, but actually it ain't too bad. The lower legs are hollow at the back but are kind of filled in by the tail tips. The back of the torso is completely hollow but reasonably filled in by the dinosaur neck and head. Compared to other figures on the FOC line, this feels very substantial.

A quick note on beast mode - I don't like it, but it isn't disastrous either. That tail will annoy you from certain angles, I won't lie. The hollowness is a bigger problem in Dino mode, with there being obvious voids from the neck all the way down to the baby maker. Unfortunately because this approximates an old-skool T-Rex, the 'chest' area is on full display. However, it is not the abomination I first thought.

I know a lot of people will consider using this figure in their 'classics' lineup. does it work? For me, it does, I stuck reprolabels over the dinobot insignia and it looks pretty good. He scales very well with classics Voyager Prime in robot mode. Aesthetically, you can get away with it - it's not as jarring as trying to incorporate a Movieverse figure into your collection. I do discard the shield though as it does not 'fit in'. So anyway below is my ranking of Grimlock that I own, based on suitability into a 'classics' collection.

'Classics' Grimlock - Last place

Pros - erm, makes your other figures look infinitely better by comparison, I guess
Cons - Too damn small, Beast mode does not have the 'right' stance, random inked panels, a bisected head for feet in robot mode, aaargh!

'FOC' Grimlock - Second place

Pros - robot mode scales well with other voyagers, and hopefully the other dinobots which hopefully Hasbro will now release?
Cons - Beast mode is kind of crappy. Not as good quality as MP Grimlock, worrisome joints which will invite wear

'Masterpiece' Grimlock - First place

Pros - superb in both robot and dinosaur mode. Solid as a rock.
Cons - Too big in robot mode, just about gets away with it in dinosaur mode.

So in summary better than I thought. As a stand alone figure people will definately like this, and I feel that if you wanted to display this figure in your 'classics' collection in robot mode, he is a better fit in your collection than any other Grimlock out there. But if you prefer to display Grimmy as a dino, then it is MP all the way.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Arctorro » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:33 am

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Nice write up Banjo-Tron, thanks.

I still want this guy badly!
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