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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby Burn » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:23 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Now that he's gone elsewhere, Transformers will finally be able to move on.

Because he had the final say on things and not Hasbro executives who via marketing determined that G1 characters are what people want?
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:37 am

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Burn wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Now that he's gone elsewhere, Transformers will finally be able to move on.

Because he had the final say on things and not Hasbro executives who via marketing determined that G1 characters are what people want?


Warren was a GOD and everything that happened to the franchise was his doing and his alone. [-(
That's how it sound anyway from the complainers.

Still, he did had a heavy influence and I'm honestly thankful for that. We got Combiner Wars, Titan Return, Siege, and Earthrise that are all stellar lines with so many "budget masterpieces".

There's still so much to tap into G1. But G1 can take a break and we can put back the S in Generations.

Warren going to Power Rangers, I'm pretty sure the franchise will have the revival it need.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:41 am

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Generations: I've missed out listing which series had idw on it but even cw did. The geewun whingers are a bit whingee for my liking.

CW g1, g2, armada, new stuff

Titans return g1, g2, new stuff

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Selects g1, g2, energon, new stuff


If the future of transformers is just two step changers or steps in the wrong direction, it won't really matter with the decades of figures available and that continue to be made.
Titans return/takara legends will probably be my favorite and go to line out of the generations lot but there is always room for surprises and awesomeness in other lines.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:11 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Burn wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Now that he's gone elsewhere, Transformers will finally be able to move on.

Because he had the final say on things and not Hasbro executives who via marketing determined that G1 characters are what people want?


Warren was a GOD and everything that happened to the franchise was his doing and his alone. [-(
That's how it sound anyway from the complainers.

Still, he did had a heavy influence and I'm honestly thankful for that. We got Combiner Wars, Titan Return, Siege, and Earthrise that are all stellar lines with so many "budget masterpieces".

There's still so much to tap into G1. But G1 can take a break and we can put back the S in Generations.

Warren going to Power Rangers, I'm pretty sure the franchise will have the revival it need.
Who's Warren? :P
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:21 am

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Close enough. [-(
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:33 am

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blackeyedprime wrote:Generations: I've missed out listing which series had idw on it but even cw did. The geewun whingers are a bit whingee for my liking.

CW g1, g2, armada, new stuff

Titans return g1, g2, new stuff

Potp g1, new stuff, beast wars,

Seige g1, g2, armada, car robots, bay, new stuff

Netflix g1, new characters

Earthrise g1, new stuff

Kingdom g1, beast wars, and more

Selects g1, g2, energon, new stuff


If the future of transformers is just two step changers or steps in the wrong direction, it won't really matter with the decades of figures available and that continue to be made.
Titans return/takara legends will probably be my favorite and go to line out of the generations lot but there is always room for surprises and awesomeness in other lines.

Ah but you're forgetting people's reactions to the new stuff and non-G1 elements. Remember the kick off over poor alpha bravo? How people disliked the armada megs? Then the kick off over making characters headmasters?

Fans will hate on both sides.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:45 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Fans will hate on both sides.


I'm pretty sure fans will not only hate on both sides, but the front, the back, the top, and the bottom as well! :lol:

Especially if you dare venture at 4chan's /toy/.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:54 am

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I'd say I have little to no love for IDW stuff but a good toy is a good toy (t30 Springer etc).

I wasnt on the forums at that point to complain about alpha bravo :P but my complaints would have been on how hard it was to get aerialbots to complete superion (and still would be, if alpha bravo hadn't become hard to get too).
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:15 am

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Didn't help that we didn't get wave 2 at retail, if you wanted the stunticons, you had to go online
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:38 am

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blackeyedprime wrote:Generations: I've missed out listing which series had idw on it but even cw did. The geewun whingers are a bit whingee for my liking.
No one is forcing you to interact with them. And the name calling is unnecessary.

As for the topic of Warden moving on, for the most part I like his contributions to the franchise. There are a couple of things I could pick on, but I won't, because IMO what we got under him is far better than what we had before he came along. 5 or 6 years ago, I was disheartened with just about all facets of the franchise, and the arrival of CW got me excited again. I even picked up the IDW books, with mixed results. So as far as I'm concerned he has only gratitude from me for reigniting my passion for the toys, and helping me refocus my collection and collecting habits. I don't buy Power Rangers or Ghostbusters, but I think his involvement will only improve the product. Thank you and good luck, Mr. Warden. ;)^
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:09 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote: I'm concerned he has only gratitude from me for reigniting my passion for the toys, and helping me refocus my collection and collecting habits.


I HATE HIM BECAUSE HE MADE BUY SO MUCH G1 VINTAGE ORIGINAL THAT I WOULD NEVER HAVE BOUGHT OTHERWISE!!!

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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby SMiGaTRON » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:02 am

End of a most excellent era!

Fingers crossed moving forward.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby o.supreme » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:55 pm

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Well I’m not going to lie, I’m a little saddened at Warden’s decision to move on, but it was eerily predicted by me, and I wish him the best. It was CW that brought me back from a 10-year absence, and depending on what happens after Kingdom, I may, for the 3rd time in my life cease collecting for a time, but as always, I’ll wait and see.

Now I talked in another thread about some of the similarities between the original Transformers release time period, and what’s occurred during Warden’s tenure as project manager. I’m sure there was no overall grand scheme to do a complete original series redux, but in some ways, it does feel like that, for me at least. 1984-1990 (7 years). vs 2015-2021 (also 7 years). The original series had a new product line each year. Warden will have overseen Six lines (Two Trilogies) when it’s all over in that seven-year span, which may spill over a bit into 2022 based on current real-world situations, who knows…

But within those Six lines, many of the original series characters I enjoyed have been brought back, especially with respect to Combiners and Titans. Of course, Hall of Fame characters have had multiple releases since 2015. With all that being said, there is still a 4th wave of Earthrise to be revealed, as well as the entire Kingdom line (spoilers from the poster not withstanding). I’ve tried to compile a list of as many characters from 1984-1990 that haven’t seen a release from 2015- ER wave 3 that we know of. Feel free to speculate if we will get any of these or not before Kingdom is done. There will be a couple of *tweaks*. I’m going to let Metroplex pass on this. I know it was not Warden’s, but I’m ok with the one from T30. Also, I may put some asterisks * next to anything that had a decent T30 release, as it may not be necessary at this time to revisit those. Additionally, there may be some representations of characters that some fans may not feel are Ideal (such as Pretenders being Prime Masters, or Slamdance being a Skytread repaint etc…), but I am going to count them, nonetheless. Additionally, I’m not going to count Action Masters. So, without further ado:

1984 – Every Character from this release year seems to have been released between 2015 and now

1985- Whirl*, Roadbuster*, Tracks, Skids, Barrage, Ransack, Venom

1986-Sandstorm*

1987-Trainbots (Raiden), Artfire, Pointblank, Sureshot, Goldbug, Freeway, Rollbar, Searchlight, Wideload, Slugfest, Twincast

1988-Override, Backstreet, Chainclaw, Catilla, Waverider,Skyhigh, Groundbreaker, Splashdown, Guzzle, Fizzle, Sizzle, Hosehead, Gunrunner, Scoop*, Quickmix, Landfill, Slapdash, Iguanus, Finback, Bugly, Crankcase, Roadgrabber, Squawkbox, Carnivac, Snarler, Black Zarak, Sparkstalker, Flamefeather

1989-Monstructor/Dinoking, Skyhammer, Roadblock, Pincher, Doubleheader, Longtooth, Stranglehold, Crossblades/Blue Bacchus, Vroom, Erector, Flattop, Roughstuff, Overload, Skystalker, Starsaber, Victory Leo, Road Caesar, Landcross

*Micromasters- It occurs to me, there are just too many for me to keep track of. I don’t know how many have been released vs the originals, but if Kingdom is going to include them, then probably most of them will have been revisited, I would hope.

In hindsight, a lot of ground has been covered, and we've had meany great toys I never thought we'd see characters of again. It will be interesting to see how many, if any of these missing bots gets a release before the end of Kingdom.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:34 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Warden will have overseen Six lines
More than that, actually. AOE was his first line, then he oversaw RID 2015, TLK, Studio Series, and while he didn't oversee it, he designed (whether fully or partially) six of the Thrilling 30 molds:
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:20 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:I guess this means Kingdom is his last line.


Designing Beast Wars just broke him I guess.

Just joking, I wish him all the best.
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Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:33 pm

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No one is forcing you to interact with them. And the name calling is unnecessary.

As for the topic of Warden moving on, for the most part I like his contributions to the franchise. There are a couple of things I could pick on, but I won't, because IMO what we got under him is far better than what we had before he came along. 5 or 6 years ago, I was disheartened with just about all facets of the franchise, and the arrival of CW got me excited again. I even picked up the IDW books, with mixed results. So as far as I'm concerned he has only gratitude from me for reigniting my passion for the toys, and helping me refocus my collection and collecting habits. I don't buy Power Rangers or Ghostbusters, but I think his involvement will only improve the product. Thank you and good luck, Mr. Warden. ;)^

As someone who loves megazord designs, but requires articulation from my figures, I hope to any god that's out there that he brings some generations tf design quality to whatever new megazords he's gonna be churning out, because I'll be there =P~
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby Burn » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:34 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Who's Warren? :P


Close enough. [-(


Not if you're Zelda.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:11 pm

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Burn wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Who's Warren? :P


Close enough. [-(


Not if you're Zelda.


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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby 1984forever » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:30 am

Beast Wars is such a small, but vocal part of the fandom. It was smart of Warden to get out before he tanked the line.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby Burn » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:37 am

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1984forever wrote:Beast Wars is such a small, but vocal part of the fandom. It was smart of Warden to get out before he tanked the line.

Oh do shut up.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:37 am

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1984forever wrote:Beast Wars is such a small, but vocal part of the fandom. It was smart of Warden to get out before he tanked the line.

Actually Kingdom is his last line as he toys will already be in development. Actually he may have already laid the groundwork for the 2022 line given developmental life cycles.
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:33 am

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1984forever wrote:Beast Wars is such a small, but vocal part of the fandom. It was smart of Warden to get out before he tanked the line.


I'm going to give it to you.

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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby blackeyedprime » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:20 pm

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Fingers crossed Wardens moved onto M.A.S.K. I need an optimus prime/outlaw Cross over :)
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Re: John Warden Moving On From Transformers Brand

Postby Burn » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:20 pm

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #348 - Uno
Twincast / Podcast #348:
"Uno"
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Posted: Saturday, April 20th, 2024

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