d_sel1 wrote:Master Chief has some mediocre weapon technology for the 2500's)
Wigglez wrote:I have a question though. Wasn't Halo like a spin-off series of Marathon?
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:d_sel1 wrote:Master Chief has some mediocre weapon technology for the 2500's)
d_sel1 wrote:Shadowman wrote:d_sel1 wrote:Master Chief has some mediocre weapon technology for the 2500's)
Can I borrow your time machine?
Master Chief seems to have lot of standard (21 century?) machine guns and pistols in his arsenal, instead standard plasma weapons/ phasers usually assigned to space faring civilizations of this time.
d_sel1 wrote:Guns are useful like bow and arrows back in the day, but not many US soldiers shoot people with arrows in modern warfare.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Just because they don't use lasers doesn't mean they aren't more advanced. Bullets are effective no matter the decade. In Halo, they just made the bullets bigger and more powerful; the basic pistol from Halo 1 uses 12.7x40mm armor-piercing explosive rounds. (By comparison, the modern M16 assault rifle uses 5.56x45mm rounds)
And by the way, space faring civilizations of this time? You mean, space faring civilizations in speculative fiction, right?d_sel1 wrote:Guns are useful like bow and arrows back in the day, but not many US soldiers shoot people with arrows in modern warfare.
Right, but still use they use guns, though, so your point kind of falls flat. "It's low-tech because modern military tactics don't use primitive weapons!" Did that make sense to you?
d_sel1 wrote:Shadowman, a bunch of rednecks could make a higher calibur gun, it just about limiting the recoil . Of course, I am going with speculative fiction. However, you can improve most Halo guns by making just by miniturizing JDAM technology. It would stink in a first person shooter, but heck people in 2050's might end up with "smart bullets."
d_sel1 wrote:Also, you could probably miniturize most "anti-meteoroid" technology that a spaceship needs, and voila you have a nice supply of plasma weapons, phasers, and other future weapons.
d_sel1 wrote:No army in the 2500's will use bullets if there is better, more effective, reasonally priced alternative.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Okay, first off, miniaturizing anti-meteor technology first requires that technology to exist, and it doesn't.
Second, most ships are equipped with MAC guns, big ol' mass accelerators. And they make anything Starfleet is equipped with look like a damn joke. The basic ship-mounted versions fire a 600 ton projectile at 30km/s, and, on average, hit like a 67 kilton warhead, three times the yield of the city buster dropped on Hiroshima. The Orbital Defense "Super" MACs fire a 3000 ton projectile at 12000km/s. Who needs lasers when you have giant coilguns that hit with enough force to destroy an entire country?d_sel1 wrote:No army in the 2500's will use bullets if there is better, more effective, reasonally priced alternative.
Once again, can I borrow your time machine? You're taking elements of something that doesn't exist and using it to claim how primitive something else that doesn't exist is. You can't possibly know these things.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:1. Within Slipstream Space, Halo's version of FLT travel, the majority of the laws of physics, especially those pertaining to Relativity, do not exist, or do not work the same way as they do in normal space.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:How are you not getting this? You don't know how advanced weapons will be in five hundred years.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:By the way, Halo is far from the only Sci-Fi series to not have the humans using guns. Starcraft (Which takes place in 2499) Mass Effect (Late 2100s) and Borderlands (53rd Century) all have laser weapons, but all agree kinetic weapons are just better. (That page also does the math for the Super MAC I mentioned earlier, claiming that a 3000-ton slug traveling at 12000km/s would hit with the force of 7300 gigatons, and a single round would kill every living thing on a planet) In Halo, for the most part, it was meant to make them contrast with the much more technologically advanced yet highly alien Covenant, as well as making them more "familiar" from a technological standpoint.
That said, you still don't know bullets will be outdated in 500 years.
Unlike Sci Fi and fantasy genres where all manner of exotic weapons are commonplace like lasers, phasers, blasters, lightning guns, plasma cannons, etc, in real life all of them are unnecessary due to one simple unalterable fact: The laws of physics tell us that anything, absolutely anything in the universe can be destroyed if you simply hit it hard enough.
Another advantage of kinetic weapons is the ballistic trajectory, which allows you to arc projectiles over obstacles (which is how mortars and artillery are used). Beam weapons fire straight, meaning you can't target things behind obstructions. This has also been used to great effect by snipers who have, using bullet drop and the environment's wind speed, actually curved bullets into targets behind obstacles.
Long before that, slings, arrows, and early siege weaponry used the same arc to function as an early indirect weapon. They would also force warriors to consider the threat of death raining down on them, which can be devastating for maneuver.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Dredd. He's pretty much Gestapo BADASS. The chief is just...bad.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
shortwave wrote:ps the guy has been shot stabbed electrocuted headbutted crawled threw lava and been on big brother and survived.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
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