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Postby Overcracker » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:56 am

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Just finished watching part 1 of his new series on Netflix.

There's going to likely be a ton of spoilers here, so read at your own peril beyond this point.







Overall, I think it really well done except it was a bit misleading in its trailers.

Its less He-Man, and more the "The New Adventures of Teela".

I suppose it's a balsy move to kill off your principal character in the first episode, then apparently again on the last one. Yes, it's not what the people were expecting, but by that same token it's not what that people were expecting.

Also, why are we killing off the secret identity? Does not make much sense.

He-Man is just o.k. Having him limited to short flashbacks mostly makes it hard to actually get to know the character well and see how well Chris Wood does at it.


With that said however, I think it's a well done series so far. Well crafted story, good beats and good use of characters. I was actually disappointed Evil-Lyn did not join the good guys at the end, but went back to Skeletor. Which proves how good she was written that you actually god invested in her. Leena Heady does a great job as her. Its just not what you traditionally expect of a He-Man show. Big then again it was never called a He-Man show. Just Masters of the Universe.

Mark Hamill's Skeleton is not bad, but somehow it pales in comparison with Alan Oppenheimer's version. I just get too much Joker out of him, not enough nasal skeleton. Sue me, I have a special place in my heart for Oppenheimer's Skeletor as I do Beastman and his snorts.

Also not sure what drove them to make another castle hidden beneath the Castle Grayskull facade. Its not like they were ever hiding that Grayskull was important. It just did not really make sense.

Sarah Michelle Gellar does a great job as Teela. Totally did not get a Buffy vibe from her at all. But Teela overall is not all that compelling a character here. I understand what Kevin Smith was trying to do with her, I just don't think it works. Her motivations are thin at best. "oooh no, they lied to me... I'm leaving. everything now". Was not really invested in her. But in actually getting He-Man back, which kind of weakens her character.

Also, damn Randor was totally douchey. Don't remember Randor being that unlikeable before.


I did get a tiny bit nostalgic when Triklops shows up in the Roton. Was pretty much the only toy I had from He-Man. Never had anything else, and still absolutely loved that cartoon.

Tony Todd is criminally under used. Somehow I think he would have worked better as a really evil Skeletor rather than Mark's less laughy Joker attempt.


All in all, its a good try at it. It just feels like not what people were led to expect is all, and while part 2 may correct that, it's going to dissappoint a lot of people for now.

What are your thoughts on it? Did you like it? where you appalled by the changes? Did you even get invested in Teela?
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby Overcracker » Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:02 pm

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Seriously? Over 6000 views and now one has anything to say about it?
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

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I'm enjoyed it.Some moments really pulls your heart strings.
It makes sense for Teela to be the lead in context,still she sometimes acts like she was the only one to feel bad.But I see as a character flaw,not a writing flaw.
The stuff with Evil-Lyn,Orko,Man-at-Arms was great.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:48 am

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I thoroughly enjoyed it. The series reminded me of some of the character-building eps about Teela (in the original show).

I like the idea of bringing He-Man back, rather than just relying on him. After all, the show is called "Masters of the Universe", rather than "He-Man".
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby Overcracker » Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:27 am

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Finally, some answers :-D :lol:

Indeed. It's a well made show, and by no means is it bad. It's just not what was sold to people.

We'll see what happens in Part 2 if it gets released at any point.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:19 pm

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It seems not to be "if", but "when" it's released:

- https://comicbook.com/anime/news/master ... vin-smith/
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby Overcracker » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:48 pm

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Part 2 is out. Gonna watch some later today.

5 episodes. Let's see if Kevin can fix it.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:15 pm

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Overcracker wrote:Part 2 is out. Gonna watch some later today.

5 episodes. Let's see if Kevin can fix it.


Nothing to "fix". Although not perfect, part one was great. Part 2 also has its flaws (including a questionable "get the point/throneroom" scene, some lacklustre battles and a perhaps drawn-out "I (now) have the power" storyline, but that's about it.

There's still more Teela and Evil-Lyn in this part, so if everyday, progressive depictions of women, or a storyline that elicits empathy with "B-List" supporting characters easily triggers you, you might want to not bother watching it and/or posting related troll comments here (if that's what you'll end up doing)?
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby Overcracker » Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:31 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Part 2 is out. Gonna watch some later today.

5 episodes. Let's see if Kevin can fix it.


Nothing to "fix". Although not perfect, part one was great. Part 2 also has its flaws (including a questionable "get the point/throneroom" scene, some lacklustre battles and a perhaps drawn-out "I (now) have the power" storyline, but that's about it.

There's still more Teela and Evil-Lyn in this part, so if everyday, progressive depictions of women, or a storyline that elicits empathy with "B-List" supporting characters easily triggers you, you might want to not bother watching it and/or posting related troll comments here (if that's what you'll end up doing)?


I’ll refer you to my original post in this very thread for what I though of part 1 and Teela’s depiction. I take offense to you suggesting I would troll and complain about it being about Teela.

I’m all for strong female characters, and have nothing against Teela. But the hype from Kevin was misleading.

By Fix I Mean have more He-Man in his He-Man show. Is that too much to ask?

Had he said it was the adventures of Teela, no one would have batted at an eye at it.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:39 pm

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Overcracker wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Part 2 is out. Gonna watch some later today.

5 episodes. Let's see if Kevin can fix it.


Nothing to "fix". Although not perfect, part one was great. Part 2 also has its flaws (including a questionable "get the point/throneroom" scene, some lacklustre battles and a perhaps drawn-out "I (now) have the power" storyline, but that's about it.

There's still more Teela and Evil-Lyn in this part, so if everyday, progressive depictions of women, or a storyline that elicits empathy with "B-List" supporting characters easily triggers you, you might want to not bother watching it and/or posting related troll comments here (if that's what you'll end up doing)?


I’ll refer you to my original post in this very thread for what I though of part 1 and Teela’s depiction. I take offense to you suggesting I would troll and complain about it being about Teela.

I’m all for strong female characters, and have nothing against Teela. But the hype from Kevin was misleading.

By Fix I Mean have more He-Man in his He-Man show. Is that too much to ask?

Had he said it was the adventures of Teela, no one would have batted at an eye at it.


I don't care if you're offended. Your post was a typical "misogynistic man-baby troll" comment and thus irrelevant and unwelcome. The show was NOT called "He-Man" but rather "Masters of the Universe".

As such, your opinions on the matters are ignorant, null and void.

Obvious troll is obvious (and blocked).

Try 4-chan or YouTube's comments, Troll. You'll find more empathy for your posturings there.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby Overcracker » Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:52 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Part 2 is out. Gonna watch some later today.

5 episodes. Let's see if Kevin can fix it.


Nothing to "fix". Although not perfect, part one was great. Part 2 also has its flaws (including a questionable "get the point/throneroom" scene, some lacklustre battles and a perhaps drawn-out "I (now) have the power" storyline, but that's about it.

There's still more Teela and Evil-Lyn in this part, so if everyday, progressive depictions of women, or a storyline that elicits empathy with "B-List" supporting characters easily triggers you, you might want to not bother watching it and/or posting related troll comments here (if that's what you'll end up doing)?


I’ll refer you to my original post in this very thread for what I though of part 1 and Teela’s depiction. I take offense to you suggesting I would troll and complain about it being about Teela.

I’m all for strong female characters, and have nothing against Teela. But the hype from Kevin was misleading.

By Fix I Mean have more He-Man in his He-Man show. Is that too much to ask?

Had he said it was the adventures of Teela, no one would have batted at an eye at it.


I don't care if you're offended. Your post was a typical "misogynistic man-baby troll" comment and thus irrelevant and unwelcome. The show was NOT called "He-Man" but rather "Masters of the Universe".

As such, your opinions on the matters are ignorant, null and void.

Obvious troll is obvious (and blocked).

Try 4-chan or YouTube's comments, Troll. You'll find more empathy for your posturings there.


Someone’s angry.

I actually praised the character depictions, I even said I was actually sad to see Evil-Lynn go back to Skeletor because of the excellent characterization. I was actually invested in her. Yes, I was a bit disappointed in Teela’s motivations is all. But never once did I complain about it being focused on her and the other characters. I went as as far as saying it was a really well made show.

But if you think that is being a troll, then you are being the troll as you clearly did not read what I said.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:27 pm

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There are some pretty astute reviews for this show (including that it does, indeed, have much more He-Man).

Here are exerps from a few:

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"...Masters of the Universe: Revelation gives the original cartoon a reason to exist, aside from selling people toys. It took the concept of the original He-Man cartoon and expanded on it, focussing much more on the Masters of the Universe characters, which are all just as interesting as He-Man, if not more. While the finale couldn't live up to the standards that the show set, this Netflix series is a blast and more than just a play on nostalgia for adults..."


(Source: - https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/master ... 0-6417783/ )

The review below addresses some valid criticisms, such as animation shortcuts and (perhaps irrelevant/un-asked-for) sexual themes, etc. I haven't pasted them below, for possible spoilers:

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"Masters of the Universe: Revelation gives the original cartoon a reason to exist, aside from selling people toys. It took the concept of the original He-Man cartoon and expanded on it, focussing much more on the Masters of the Universe characters, which are all just as interesting as He-Man, if not more. While the finale couldn't live up to the standards that the show set, this Netflix series is a blast and more than just a play on nostalgia for adults."


(Source: - https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/master ... 0-6417783/ (

The review below discusses be some of the gender/sexual representation (including that of Man at Arms, which I hadn't considered before). Again, to avoid spoilers, I've just included the general conclusion of the review:

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"...With bigger action, surprising allegiances, and good-vs.-evil dynamics centered around recognizable philosophies, Part 2 of Masters of the Universe: Revelation proves that familiar children’s adventure can still feel fresh, even when it takes the form of a 30-years-later nostalgia revival. While Part 2 is much messier than Part 1, its bumps are a byproduct of tackling strange and humongous narrative ideas that most children’s shows wouldn’t dream of touching, and it succeeds by wrapping them in shiny packaging..."


(Source: - https://www.polygon.com/22797608/master ... an-netflix )

Some fair criticism about the slightly sluggish pace in the review below:

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"...Teela and Evil-Lyn's pasts are better explored making them key characters in this series. The latter was seen siding with the heroes and the betrayal by the one who claims "to have made her" stings her hard as she goes on a universe destroying spree. Teela's metamorphosis from a warrior to a sorceress is an emotional journey and these aspects lend more depth to the show. 'Masters of the Universe: Revelation' impresses in a draggy sort of way, but safe to say, this reboot is a success. .."


(Source: - https://meaww.com/masters-of-the-univer ... lix-he-man )

Finally, Kevin Smith gives a well-stated rebuke to the minority of toxic, whinging, entitled man-babies who don't really reflect the fandom in any shape or form:

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"...Some He-Man fans are not happy with Kevin Smith — and Kevin Smith is not happy with some He-Man fans.

The director's new "Masters of the Universe: Revelation" reboot currently has an exemplary 95 percent critic score on Rotten Tomatoes, but a paltry audience score of 33 percent; such huge discrepancies are usually a hallmark of "review bombing".

Among the criticisms being aimed at the animated Netflix series is that there is not enough He-Man in it, accusing him of being "woke" by focusing instead on female character Teela (voiced by Sarah Michelle Gellar)... which Smith says is preposterous.

"Teela was one of the first figures launched [and] she's in every episode of the cartoon fighting right beside [He-Man]," he told the New York Post. "So I didn't bring anything to this where I'm like, 'Man, watch this woke s--t!'"

As for the haters accusing him of a "bait and switch" with the eponymous hero being relatively absent, he points out that the five episodes currently streaming are only the first half of the season.

"Some of the takes on it feel like the people haven't seen a movie or a TV show like, ever, in their lives," he said. "They seem to think that we have done irreversible things to some of their favorite characters… We're halfway through a story. There is so much He-Man in the next five episodes. Ours is one long story cut up into chapters."

"Most audiences are too savvy to pull one over on. I assumed most people would be so far ahead of us."

In an interview with Variety, Smith further defended the show from accusations of woke-ism, pointing out that there were plenty of female characters in the original '80s show toxic fans are so precious about.

"I know there's some people that are like, 'Hey, man, this show’s woke,'" he said. "I'm like, all right, great, then so was the original cartoon we're f--king sequel-izing. Go watch it again. There are girls in every episode. Deal with it," he said.

"It's been interesting, seeing who truly is a hardcore fan," he added. "Because anybody that's like, 'Oh, man, there's not enough He-Man' or something like that, doesn't understand the show that we based it on. There were episodes where he lost the sword and he never became He-Man. It wasn't like He-Man always saved the day. His friends helped him. That was the f--king point of the show."

"I see people online go, 'Hey man, they're getting rid of He-Man!'" he went on. "Like, you really f--king think Mattel Television, who hired me and paid me money, wants to do a f--king 'Masters of the Universe' show without He-Man? Grow the f--k up, man. Like, that blew my mind, bunch of people being like, 'Oh, I smell it. This is a bait and switch.'"

After first getting wind of the review bombing, a defiant Smith tweeted that he was flattered to be in good company with "Captain Marvel" and "The Boys", which also suffered similar attacks:

"This is actually kinda flattering. Both @TheBoysTV & @captainmarvel went through this too, so I’m in good company! The review-bombing is transparent, so luckily it’s not gonna trip us up. But do you know what *can* trip us up? My untied @PUMA Skeletor sneakers from @footlocker!"


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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

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Overcracker wrote:But if you think that is being a troll, then you are being the troll as you clearly did not read what I said.

Just put him on your ignore list. People like him aren't worth wasting your time on.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:40 am

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Overcracker wrote:But if you think that is being a troll, then you are being the troll as you clearly did not read what I said.

Just put him on your ignore list. People like him aren't worth wasting your time on.


Indeed, that's exactly what I've done to them. Best way to deal with trolls.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

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Overcracker wrote:But if you think that is being a troll, then you are being the troll as you clearly did not read what I said.

Just put him on your ignore list. People like him aren't worth wasting your time on.


Really? that's what we've come down to? Just calling others trolls?

What did I say that was so wrong about the show? I never even complained about it having strong female leads.

I would really appreciate an explanation of what I said that was so wrong that has you all so triggered.



I repeat what I said in my original post. Its a great show with great writing. I really liked EvilLyn, I was invested.

If you can explain your issues with my posts, I'd really appreciate it so I can understand what I said that was so wrong?
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:22 pm

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I just found some more constructive criticism (via Wiki) :

Kshitij Rawat of The Indian Express gave the show a score of 2.5/5 stars: "While the series shares humour and story elements with the original, it is its own thing as well. Teela is the primary protagonist and that helps make it feels fresher and different. However, those who did not watch the 80s’ series or do not care for sword and sorcery stories, this series may often feel stale and unappealing despite clear attempts at reinvention of the tropes."

Brian Lowry of CNN described the show's tone as "edgier and clearly more ambitious, beginning with the fact that there's actual fighting", and added that Smith "approaches it all seriously -- or at least as earnestly as you can when a guy hoists a sword and shouts "By the power of Grayskull!"". Lowry wrote: "For those expecting something truly boundary-pushing, rest assured, no one will confuse this with Clerks." Zaki Hasan, writing for the San Francisco Chronicle, said that "while it's invigorating to see this world and its characters gussied up with a 2021 coat of paint, the whole venture does threaten at times to stumble under the weight of its own oppressive grimness", also adding: "It's as if Smith was so determined to emphasize how grown-up the new show is he forgot that this was originally a story for kids — and that it's OK for that to still be the case."


(Source: - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters ... Revelation )

Apparently, there's also a "prequel" comic, bridging any gaps between the old TV show and the new one:

- https://www.amazon.com/Masters-Universe ... 506726313/
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There's also an art book:

- https://www.ign.com/articles/masters-un ... ook-he-man
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

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Overcracker wrote:But if you think that is being a troll, then you are being the troll as you clearly did not read what I said.

Just put him on your ignore list. People like him aren't worth wasting your time on.


Really? that's what we've come down to? Just calling others trolls?

What did I say that was so wrong about the show? I never even complained about it having strong female leads.

I would really appreciate an explanation of what I said that was so wrong that has you all so triggered.



I repeat what I said in my original post. Its a great show with great writing. I really liked EvilLyn, I was invested.

If you can explain your issues with my posts, I'd really appreciate it so I can understand what I said that was so wrong?


ahhh...mate...I'm on your side here. I was suggesting to you (Overcracker) to ignore him because I agree, you said nothing wrong and it was a blatant uncalled for twisting of your words.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:29 pm

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Overcracker wrote:
Burn wrote:
Overcracker wrote:But if you think that is being a troll, then you are being the troll as you clearly did not read what I said.

Just put him on your ignore list. People like him aren't worth wasting your time on.


Really? that's what we've come down to? Just calling others trolls?

What did I say that was so wrong about the show? I never even complained about it having strong female leads.

I would really appreciate an explanation of what I said that was so wrong that has you all so triggered.



I repeat what I said in my original post. Its a great show with great writing. I really liked EvilLyn, I was invested.

If you can explain your issues with my posts, I'd really appreciate it so I can understand what I said that was so wrong?


ahhh...mate...I'm on your side here. I was suggesting to you (Overcracker) to ignore him because I agree, you said nothing wrong and it was a blatant uncalled for twisting of your words.


And I disagree. The post was misogynistic and trolling, IMO.
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Postby Burn » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:41 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:And I disagree.

You do that a lot. >:oP
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primalxconvoy wrote:And I disagree.

You do that a lot. >:oP


Indeed, which I'm unapologetic for.
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Burn wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
Burn wrote:
Overcracker wrote:But if you think that is being a troll, then you are being the troll as you clearly did not read what I said.

Just put him on your ignore list. People like him aren't worth wasting your time on.


Really? that's what we've come down to? Just calling others trolls?

What did I say that was so wrong about the show? I never even complained about it having strong female leads.

I would really appreciate an explanation of what I said that was so wrong that has you all so triggered.



I repeat what I said in my original post. Its a great show with great writing. I really liked EvilLyn, I was invested.

If you can explain your issues with my posts, I'd really appreciate it so I can understand what I said that was so wrong?


ahhh...mate...I'm on your side here. I was suggesting to you (Overcracker) to ignore him because I agree, you said nothing wrong and it was a blatant uncalled for twisting of your words.


Ahh, thanks. Misread that then. :oops: Sorry.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:06 pm

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It seems that they're might indeed be a sequel to this show:

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"What was thought to be the final installment in the Revelations series has seemingly been flipped on its head, as the final moments unveiled the return of the leader of the Horde, Hordak. The Motherboard cult, which was teased in the first part, infects and mechanizes Skeletor to showcase the change in power moving forward. We don’t get his actual appearance in the series outside of a very familiar logo, but it does open up one question: are we going to see the arrival of She-Ra in the sequel?

It would certainly add some interesting drama for Princess Adora, better known as She-Ra and the twin sister of Prince Adam, to make a sudden return. She-Ra was kidnapped shortly after her birth by Hordak, who took her to the realm of Etheria and made her one of his underlings. Eventually, she would break free from his army to lead a group of rebels to fight the Horde to defeat him once and for all.

Many have become much more familiar with this story thanks to Netflix’s 2018 reboot of the series, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power. The series was an extensive retelling of the character and reimagined for a modern-day audience. It brought back Adora alongside her extensive supporting cast that includes Catra, Glimmer, Bow, Catra, Entrapta, and, of course, Hordak. However, that series was confirmed as a standalone story and doesn’t rely on any pre-existing Masters of The Universe lore.

It’s very likely Kevin Smith and his creative team will add their own spin to the story and build upon the revelations of the latest entry of the series. We don’t know if She-Ra and Hordak are a known presence in this take on the classic franchise. So, perhaps Adora is the revelation that the title is hinting at, as she helps Adam and Teela against this new threat aiming to end Grayskull once and for all..."


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Someone mentioned at Allspark that it could end up being a series that mainly deals with the Hoard, leading up to the events of "The New Adventures of He-Man?

Skeletor's "cyborg" aesthetic from that show could then be explained?

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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:50 am

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Overcracker, I know a few people have discussed this show over in the MOTU thread in the Non-Transformers and third party forums. They also talked about the He-man reboot over there.
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby Burn » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:39 pm

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Finished watch Part 2 this morning and for the most part, I enjoyed it.

I give them credit for going with the abusive relationship story, that's not an easy subject to broach and I think they did a good job of telling Lynn's story of what she'd endured in life which lead to her doing what she did.

What I didn't like is that when she took on The Power she became incredibly ripped. To me that felt like they were saying "a strong woman needs to have big muscles", which they don't. That may be my interpretation but it felt a little off that they did that.

That being said ... powered up Evil Lynn is a dead ringer for WWE's Rhea Ripley. :lol:
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Re: Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe on Netflix

Postby primalxconvoy » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:21 pm

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Burn wrote:Finished watch Part 2 this morning and for the most part, I enjoyed it.

I give them credit for going with the abusive relationship story, that's not an easy subject to broach and I think they did a good job of telling Lynn's story of what she'd endured in life which lead to her doing what she did.

What I didn't like is that when she took on The Power she became incredibly ripped. To me that felt like they were saying "a strong woman needs to have big muscles", which they don't. That may be my interpretation but it felt a little off that they did that.

That being said ... powered up Evil Lynn is a dead ringer for WWE's Rhea Ripley. :lol:


That's a really astute point. I think one of the links above broached that subject. To be honest, in this show, at least, Adam became equally as "too buff" when he became He-Man, so maybe it was a stylistic choice to show how The Power "distorts" the recipient's natural form?

How about her and Beast Man's choices though? I thought they were a bit out-of-character, considering their development through this new show? Both of their actions just seemed a little "forced" to me?
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