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News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:38 pm

Greetings Seibertronians! While it may not look like there's been a lot of news on the forthcoming Transformers reboot, due out in 2022 but, that's not the case.

Today, I'll be bring ginger up some news and rumours regarding the next Transformers movie and the ones after it. Before we dive in to the confirmed news, let me make it clear that the rumours must be taken with a pinch of salt and may not amount to everything.

With that said..

Confirmed

production designer Patrick Tatopoulos Joins Transformers (2022)

As the title suggests, Patrick Tatopoulos (Justice League: The Synder Cut, Maleficent: Mistress of Evil) has joined the crew working on Steven Caples Jr's (Creed II) new Transformers movie. Patrick has been a frequent collaborator with Zack Synder. The movie, tentatively due for release in 2022, is being developed from a script by Joby Harold (John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum). The film will reboot the movie franchise.

Source: Discussing Film

Rumours

New Transformers Movies Focusing on Humans Less, Robots More.

This and the following rumour comes from the same source, supposed Hollywood insider Daniel Richtman, but were reported on by different websites (Daniel posted the rumours to his Patreon page).

This rumour basically says that Hasbro and Paramount have agreed that the movies should focus more on the heroic Autobots/Maximals and Villainous Decepticons/Predacons then the humans, if there is any humans at all. If true, this will please many of the critics of the Bay led movies.

Source: We've Got This Covered

There Will Be A Trilogy Of Beast Wars Movies, Beast Wars Will Be On The Scale Of Avengers Endgame

This rumour will either delight or terrify fans of Beast Wars. The rumours state that Beast Wars will actually get 3 films (and will duly cross over with the main Transformers movie series). The first one is talked about as being on the scale of the last Avengers movie, Endgame. The rumour directly says:

“[It] will be as big as Endgame a HUGE event set mostly in space,” he says.

It should be noted that no Beast Wars movie is officially in production though there is a script for it by James Vanderblit.

Source: Small Screen & We've Got This Covered

What do you make of these rumours? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:47 pm

So like if it's a reboot does that mean Bumblebee will be left behind and we'll go to a whole new universe? I'd honestly like to see new designs or at least more uncommon tropes like fire truck Optimus Prime instead of rusty G1, but suck is a pipe dream.

News Credits: 5 · by **Nuclearxpotato** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:16 pm

I think Bumblebee was the reboot. It rewrote all the ""lore"" that was established in the five Bayverse films while still pretending it was related. I think this happened because TLK was such a flop that Hasbro/Paramount made the last-minute decision to rework the film and throw TF6 into the bin.

I really, really do not want a massive "Endgame" style TF movie. That would put us right back at where the Bayverse films failed: too big, no character, too much action.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:18 pm

We Got This Covered is about as unreliable as my old 1987 Mitsubishi Magna. I wouldn't believe a single thing that website posts.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:24 pm

Nuclearxpotato wrote:I think Bumblebee was the reboot. It rewrote all the ""lore"" that was established in the five Bayverse films while still pretending it was related. I think this happened because TLK was such a flop that Hasbro/Paramount made the last-minute decision to rework the film and throw TF6 into the bin.

I really, really do not want a massive "Endgame" style TF movie. That would put us right back at where the Bayverse films failed: too big, no character, too much action.

While not fully confirmed, the new films won't have anything to do with bumblebee. This is a total reboot. Also Bumblebee still works as a prequel to Transformers '07 with no more retconning then any other bay movie to the others.

News Credits: 18 · by **Fires_Of_Inferno** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:42 pm

So now that they've established that the Bumblebee movie was a reboot and not a prequel, can they pull a Sonic The Hedgehog and re-edit the last few minutes of the Bumblebee movie so that he doesn't change into a camaro at the end? The only reason it bothers me is because they have a scene with Bumblebee driving alongside Optimus and that would have been perfect if Bee had stayed as a VW.

I mean, the entire movie was great, and obviously they're not doing that, but it would please me.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:59 pm

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So now that they've established that the Bumblebee movie was a reboot and not a prequel, can they pull a Sonic The Hedgehog and re-edit the last few minutes of the Bumblebee movie so that he doesn't change into a camaro at the end? The only reason it bothers me is because they have a scene with Bumblebee driving alongside Optimus and that would have been perfect if Bee had stayed as a VW.

I mean, the entire movie was great, and obviously they're not doing that, but it would please me.

Transformers 2022 is the reboot

News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:19 pm

I'm highly skeptical of both the source and the details. We haven't seen any confirmation of a BW movie going into production, let alone three of them. I'm also not sure how they hope to have an "Endgame" style of movie with the Beast Wars characters. Endgame worked because you had a decade of building up a bunch of characters and making people care about them. You're telling me that in three movies, we're going to be so heavily invested in this new universe that we'll get a massive ensemble cast in some grand finale? I'll be pressing X to doubt until we get official word.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:57 pm

Lore Keeper wrote:I'm highly skeptical of both the source and the details. We haven't seen any confirmation of a BW movie going into production, let alone three of them. I'm also not sure how they hope to have an "Endgame" style of movie with the Beast Wars characters. Endgame worked because you had a decade of building up a bunch of characters and making people care about them. You're telling me that in three movies, we're going to be so heavily invested in this new universe that we'll get a massive ensemble cast in some grand finale? I'll be pressing X to doubt until we get official word.

It's "We Got This Covered", don't believe a single damn thing that comes from that website.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:24 pm

Unfortunatly the first thing that always will come to my mind with Patrick Tatopolis is the design for the 1998 Godzilla,or just Zilla as Toho renamed him.

Like BIGGUY007 on Facebook · by **BIGGUY007** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:29 pm

We Got This Covered isn’t a good source for reliable information. It’s more speculative than fact.

by **Ultra Markus** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:21 am

beast wars? lets not get ahead of ourselves
they still need to fix everything the bay films screwed up :-?

News Credits: 6 · by **TulioDude** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:00 am

The information about the robots having more screentime is not a surprise,because with each film the Transformers screen time has increased.

Maybe I will do an more detailed post about it later.

On the other news,I think it's safer to wait Hasbro/Paramount have an official announcement.

Like TOO MUCH ENERGON! on Facebook · by **TOO MUCH ENERGON!** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:35 am

Burn wrote:We Got This Covered is about as unreliable as my old 1987 Mitsubishi Magna. I wouldn't believe a single thing that website posts.

I came here to comment something similar. Hell, there are memes dedicated to how full of **** they are.

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:07 pm

Nuclearxpotato wrote:I really, really do not want a massive "Endgame" style TF movie. That would put us right back at where the Bayverse films failed: too big, no character, too much action.

That's never happened before, of course. Unless you count fighting a giant, planet-sized Transformer trying to tear your homeworld apart counts...

...several times...

...in several series...

by **noctorro** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:22 am

Came here expecting to read Wohoo's from kids.

Not dissapointed.

Als sceptical, believing what's been written (which is rumour...). 3 Beast Wars movies that will tie in to the Reboot of the main Transformers new trilogy. And less humans. And Avengers Endgame style movie.
That's a big "Yeah right...". I call bs, get the fans back first with 1 decent/good Transformers movie, don't brag about anything Avengers. You have nothing, everything the Avengers movies have are built up and earned. You cannot make a big style event with characters you have to know from an old tv series. That's not how that works + I'm pretty sure they do not have the talent to make a movie like that anyway.

Start small, built that up and in 3-5 years bring something together when it's well established.

And a Transformers movie in 2022? That's next year people, they have NOTHING, if 2022 is a thing they would've leaked art concept design already. You guys member the Bay movies, there were trailers even when tv's didn't have color.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:42 am

The 2022 movie is officially happening though, while delays might happen (if they are, we'll probably find out summer time) that movie is getting worked on now they have the director.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:16 pm

Greetings Seibertronians! Welcome to another look at the latest rumours floating around about the cinematic version of our favorite franchise.

Let's start off with facts:

These are not new but help keep things grounded.

Fact 1# Steven Caple Jr (Creed II) is the director.
Fact 2# Joby Harold (also working on the Disney+ Initiative Wan Kenobi show) is handling script duties.
Fact 3# the movie is set for release in 2022. This could easily change but that is what they are saying at the moment.

Now, for the rumours, and as always, assume false till proven true.

According to speculation website The Illuminerdi, the next Transformers movie has gained the working title of...Beast Alliance (this is likely to change, if true of course).

Now while you take that it, let's discuss other things mentioned in the article:

Transformers: Beast Alliance takes place in the Bumblebee timeline and will be set in the 1990’s. The film will have the flavor of a heist film that will span from Brooklyn to South America.

Caple and the production are currently looking to cast either an African-American or a Latino actor in his early to mid-twenties for lead role, along with a female co-lead as old or even slightly older, who can pass for a native New Yorker. Unfortunately we were unable to get a double-confirmation of what Transformer robot characters are slated to appear in the upcoming film.

So first off, the idea is to leap a few years in time from the end of Travis Knight's Bumblebee film, presumably breaking it from connectivity with the Bay helmed films (as stands Bumblebee still works as a prequel to 2007's Transformers movie and supplementary material further reinforce it with Megatron being held by Sector 7).

Next, if true, we could be seeing Beast Wars characters a lot earlier then the proposed (but not officially picked up) Beast Wars movie.

There's no solid proof that this is the direction the live action movies will take. If it is true, however, then it will raise the questions of how the Beast Wars cast will fit into a narrative featuring the Autobots in the present day, and if they would use the cartoons scaling or the Kingdom scaling where the Maximals and Predacons seem to same sized as their predecessors.

Now, we turn over to you, the reader.
Do you think there's any truth here? Or do you think that the rumour is beryllium baloney? What path do you think Hasbro should take with the cinematic Autobots and Decepticons?

Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:28 pm

This could go in two different ways: it will confuse the movie timeline more than TLK and BB did combined or the mention of the BB universe is part of the reporter going with the wishful thinking that Geewun fans and normies would have when they ride BB. Either way, I had a feeling this would be part of Hasbro going full-on Beast Wars yet having some traditional guys involved. So they pretty much merged the two film ideas together.

News Credits: 2 · by **Spider5800** » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:58 pm

Quantum Surge wrote:So they pretty much merged the two film ideas together.

They have a history of doing this. A couple of the Bay films were originally multiple scripts that got merged together (AoE and TLK). Of course, those films felt overstuffed and were pretty bad. So this doesn't bode well.

I admit, as a big Beast Wars fan, the description doesn't really appeal to me. Making a Transformers heist movie set on Earth doesn't really make much sense; there's unlikely to be anything on Earth that they'd actually want, and that they couldn't just brute-force take with their, you know, giant robot bodies and superior weapons. Just seems like a silly concept. Doesn't particularly jive with the BW style either, which was characterized a lot by how isolated they were from everything. Setting it in 90's Earth kind of takes a lot of that away.

News Credits: 6 · by **TulioDude** » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:07 pm

I'm not too nervous about the continuity.I assume the previous continuity will still count except where it diverges.

News Credits: 435 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:13 pm

How reliable is The Illuminerdi?

News Credits: 1 · by **Brokebot** » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:02 am

I'm afraid nothing in that article makes me want to see this. TLK was such a dumpster fire that I've lost most any interest in a live-action film anymore. Seriously, who goes to a Transformers movie to see the people? Do an animated movie with high-end CGI and stop cranking out garbage.