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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Tyrannacon » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:05 am

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I actually like this a lot more than the Combiner Wars series done, there's still some things I am kind of "meh" about that CW did though that have repercussions here; however, I do consider the run-time being 10 minutes instead of 5 minutes or so to be helping the Titans Return series most. So far it's decent and not completely terrible. I hope it stays good and takes the lessons learned from the CW series to heart still to continue to improve itself. So far it looks like it has in a lot of ways.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:09 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Did everybody here just forget that Scrapper, Scavenger, and Long Haul all appeared individually before back in Megatron's debut episode in Combiner Wars? Their reappearance here in episode 1 of Titans Return isn't some revolutionary thing. It's just Machinima recycling the same three Constructicon character models that they had already used before.


True, but they had no dialogue, only communicating with Star wars droid like beeps, so I figured they were little more than mindless drones. Hearing Long Haul actually have a line of dialogue was...something. ;)
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:19 am

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I actually liked the first 2 episodes. Better than CW, still not amazing, but I did enjoy them
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:38 am

As far as "Scrud" Goes I'm pretty sure I've heard that in RID a few times as another random Swear.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:57 am

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slightly OT. BB in Rid15 said it often. In fact several of Will Friedle's characters have random swears:

Bumblebee in Rid15: Scrud
Lion-O in Thundercats 2011: Whiskers

as Batman in Batman Beyond he had several as well...cant think of the top of my head what they were though...heh...
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:45 am

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o.supreme wrote:slightly OT. BB in Rid15 said it often. In fact several of Will Friedle's characters have random swears:

Bumblebee in Rid15: Scrud
Lion-O in Thundercats 2011: Whiskers

as Batman in Batman Beyond he had several as well...cant think of the top of my head what they were though...heh...
Terry didn't really swear so much as just use future slang like "schway" for "cool".
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:14 pm

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True, but they had no dialogue, only communicating with Star wars droid like beeps, so I figured they were little more than mindless drones. Hearing Long Haul actually have a line of dialogue was...something. ;)


But it really should not be "Something" it should be the normal thing our expectations went so far down with CW that TR looks better compared to it, Tr isn't good either it's just not as bad as CW was.


It's like people being satisfied that some Robots in the live actions movies have personality when that should be the normal thing.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Regimus Prime » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:51 pm

Those two episodes were worth it. I wish they would do a full length movie with a G1 script. Wishful thinking. :BOT:
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:20 am

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Episode 3 is up - https://www.go90.com/videos/4MHzr5HZBY1

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Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 3 Now Online

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:14 am

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Another Tuesday rolls around, and with it the next episode in Machinima's Titans Return series! Episdoe 3 has gone live, titled "The Fight Begins", and features a montage of new information for us to look into.

The episode includes, but in no way is limited to, some scenes of Trypticon and Metroplex finally doing battle once more, Hot Rod speeding down the road, the Matrix and its connection to Optimus Prime, the return of a fan favorite Megatron, and a prelude to what is next for the series (after only 3 episodes no less!). You can check out the full episode by following the above link, and stay tuned for a review of the episode from our own series reviewer extraordinaire, Bronzewolf!

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:21 am

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Angelina Pax has episode 3 broken into pieces on her Youtube Channel. Just watched it on go90 however. It's getting kind of lame again. The episode didn't really go anywhere. It was nice to see Metroplex & Trypticon brawl, but did everyone forget they have weapons? Missiles, Lasers...anything?

Oh and I'm not sure why there are so many people on youtube going nuts on whoever is voicing Menasor and Computron. They said one and two words respectively. I mean I understand everyone has to start somewhere, but as far as the vocal talent in this show, these two are at the very bottom, and it shows. Perceptor continues to be the only character that has any personality.

"How's the evacuation going" LOL Really? Yeah...all 2 bots in the citadel are still there. I understand sometimes it takes a lot of work to make a city feel populated, but there are some tricks I'm sure experienced animators know to give a feeling of populating an area, without showing all the people. This just feels like generic empty Cybertron we've seen in most other incarnations. Other than the characters onscreen, there's nobody there.

Oh...and I guess the reason why Metroplex & Trypticon didn't fire any of their weapons is because one single missile is all they could afford to animate, and it apparently has the ability to end the world, or not...man that's some missile :lol: .
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:19 am

o.supreme wrote:Abgelina Pax has episode 3 broken into pieces on her Youtube Channel. Just watched it on go90 however. It's getting kind of lame again. The episode didn't really go anywhere. It was nice to see Metroplex & Trypticon brawl, but did everyone forget they have weapons? Missiles, Lasers...anything?

Oh and I'm not sure why there are so many people on youtube going nuts on whoever is voicing Menasor and Computron. They said one and two words respectively. I mean I understand everyone has to start somewhere, but as far as the vocal talent in this show, these two are at the very bottom, and it shows. Perceptor continues to be the only character that has any personality.

"How's the evacuation going" LOL Really? Yeah...all 2 bots in the citadel are still there. I understand sometimes it takes a lot of work to make a city feel populated, but there are some tricks I'm sure experienced animators know to give a feeling of populating an area, without showing all the people. This just feels like generic empty Cybertron we've seen in most other incarnations. Other than the characters onscreen, there's nobody there.

Oh...and I guess the reason why Metroplex & Trypticon didn't fire any of their weapons is because one single missile is all they could afford to animate, and it apparently has the ability to end the world, or not...man that's some missile :lol: .



Honestly I dont mean to be rude but it sounds like you’re just wanting to be critical and find issues.

I thought the episode was fine. It’s fighting that’s all it was with a couple cutaways but good cutaways. Optimus and Megatron continue to be the gems of this series and Optimus extending his hand to Megatron to finally move forward was great and Megatron turning away was great. He’s becoming my favorite Megatron next to IDW.

Menasor is a side character I’m not going to judge a side character for their one line.

As for firepower: metroplex is established as injured. Maybe he can’t access his armory defenses and with trypiticon, starscream is possessing him but he’s acting like a feral beast. He probably doesn’t know how to use his guns and artillery
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:52 am

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Just to be clear, I'm not judging the character, or the VA voicing that character. I'm questioning the fans adulation of someone based on pretty much nothing.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:36 pm

Perceptor does have some personality, although for a moment there, i could hear Weasley Crusher come through, especially at the only moment he sounded excited. blahhh

I'd really like to hear more with Hot Rod, since they have Judd Nelson doing the voice here, but they aren't exactly giving him a lot of lines.

I still think she show has potential, I'm just afraid it'll fail at meeting it.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:48 pm

Rodimus Knight wrote:Perceptor does have some personality, although for a moment there, i could hear Weasley Crusher come through, especially at the only moment he sounded excited. blahhh

I'd really like to hear more with Hot Rod, since they have Judd Nelson doing the voice here, but they aren't exactly giving him a lot of lines.

I still think she show has potential, I'm just afraid it'll fail at meeting it.



May be too soon but my faith in it is pretty restored. We’re 30 minutes in and it’s mostly been set up. With CW we’d be almost done, like thered be 10 minutes. This is going to be almost 2 hours so I’ve got faith in it.

With a rodimus/hot rod I’d wager he’ll have a much bigger role. His story is just starting and he’s off doing something now. I think the voicing has really improved. The handful of lines from optimus feel like I’m wathcing the cartoon again. It feels like when I played Devastation and I was smiling from ear to ear hearing peter Cullen play G1 Optimus again becuase G1 optimus is much different than movie optimus and Prime/RID Optimus in voice. Both just sounded tired. I hated optimus in Prime becuase he sounded like he just didn’t give a damn about anything when he was talking.

Maybe it’s becuase I’m looking at G1 optimus while he’s speaking and if that’s so than it’s working for me.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:25 pm

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Welcome back (and to those just joining, welcome) to another Machinima Titan's Return review! Last week saw the release of the first two episodes of this new series, (you can catch up on my review for those here and here) and this week we finally get the resolution to some of the cliffhanging plot threads left over from last week. Let's get straight to it and take a look at Titan's Return Episode 3!

So, we pick up where we left off in episode 2, with Trypticon in the middle of rampaging through Cybertron and Metroplex coming to meet him. And then, finally, we get the big (literally) fight scene between the two titans. It's actually fairly well done and entertaining to watch. Windblade again tries to get Metroplex to stand down, but he knows he must to defend the city.
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Thanks to a random bit of purple smoke that comes out of Trypticon's mouth(?), we hear Starscream's voice, and Windblade and Metroplex discover that Starscream is the one controlling Trypticon.
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We cut away from the fight for a moment to catch up with Perceptor and the Mistress of Flame, who make contact with Hot Rod. He asks how the evacuation is going, even though we've seen no one but the main cast in this entire city. Hot Rod informs them he'll be arriving shortly to aid with the fight.

We then cut to the Matrix of Leadership, now in the hands of the 13 Primes, who send a message to Optimus Prime. He stops, heeding the sign from the Matrix, and realizes what has happened in the city he's left behind. He travels back to the fight, and then, finally, we get the reappearance of Megatron. He remains the greatest, best-acted character in the entire two series, and the dialogue and exposition between he and Optimus in this scene is really good. He gives us some foreshadowing about the next series, Power of the Primes.
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But all good things must come to an end, as, like a thief in the night, Megatron leaves as soon as he arrived. He decides not to go with Optimus to save the city, but I'd assume this is not the last we'll see of him through the rest of the series.

While this is all happening, we find the Mistress of Flame and Perceptor trying to contact the combiners on their quest to find Fortress Maximus, which they are unable to do.
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After watching the battle for a few moments more, she sends Perceptor to turn on the castle's defense systems, while she goes to her "Prayer Chamber".

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Perceptor then makes it to the basilica control room, and turns the defenses on.

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The combiners finally make it to Fortress Maximus and attempt to activate it. We hear Youtuber Matpat in the role of Computron for the first time, and there's kind of a unique, fun dynamic between all the combiners hinted at here. Menasor fires off a missile by accident, with no idea where it will land. With that, episode 3 ends.

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This was, again, a good episode. It was nothing exceptional, but the Metroplex/Trypticon battle scenes were very well done, and makes up for some pacing, timing, and writing issues that are pretty regular in this series so far. I honestly think it's biggest issue currrently is that, even though you had a pretty constant amount of action in this episode, it still feels pretty dull. It just doesn't grab you and make you feel like you're involved or invested in these battles you're seeing. The pacing issues coupled with the wide, steady, far out camera angles I think really detach you from the situation, which is not how you should feel. It just makes everything seem inconsequential, when it really isn't. This is still a huge improvement over the last series, though, because we've move on from being "Oh this is just bad" to actual critique, dissecting the actual occasional flaw that presents itself.

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:11 pm

Maybe it's just me, but It didn't exactly sound like Starscream was Controlling Tripticon. I got more of the impression that Starscream was more like a "battery" so to speak, or maybe a key. Like his Spark was used to Activate Tripticon but not allow him to control the Titan.

Simply put, I thought Starscream sounded more like he was in pain, then anything else, but that's just me.
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LA Times Interviews Peter Cullen: Optimus Prime, His Role in Machinima Transformers: Titans Return

Postby Qwan » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:26 pm

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Not too long after the last interview with Peter Cullen about his role as Optimus Prime in Machinima's Titans Return animated series, we have another one with the great man, coming from the LA Times! The questions cover how he first landed the role back in the days of Generation One; the changes to the voice-acting process over time since he started his career; his bond with frequent (though not present in Machinima's series) voice of Megatron, Frank Welker; and even more!

The article doesn't touch too much on Machinima's series specifically, but it nonetheless contains a fair few interesting tidbits about Cullen's role, and his feelings on the current acting environment in animation. Check out a couple excerpts below, and of course read the full interview here! And as always, stick around Seibertron.com for more news and coverage of Machinima's series (like our review of the recently-released third episode) as it happens!

Did you ever think you'd see the Transformers characters as characters in a live-action/CGI movie?
No. Not really — especially after the 1986 [animated] movie because I was killed off. Frankly I didn't pay much attention to the show after that. I may have checked out a few [episodes] while I was doing it, but I had a family of my own. And my kids — my son — was not interested in cartoons and animation. He was a motocross and jet ski guy. He was not a sit-at-home-and-watch-TV kid. So I didn't get any feedback for years!

Your animation nemesis — voice actor Frank Welker — isn't in this latest Transformers iteration, but playing against his Megatron for so many years must have created a special bond.
A great bond. There's something about voiceover actors ... they're really underestimated and taken for granted. When I'm in a room with these talented guys ... they're really talented people and humble people. They're just marvelous people. Judd Nelson, who did Rodimus Prime or Hotrod in the newest series, what a great guy. Sensational human being and great talent. A great intellectual approach to a lot of his characters. And Frank — that's a bond that has lasted decades. It's such a privilege to be in a room with those people.

A lot of voiceover now is done, as you said, on a microphone in someone's home nowadays. Most would imagine that performing in-studio with other actors adds a different tone as opposed to being strictly digital.
The way I would express it would be like if you played on a football team and you weren't in the main locker room getting ready for a game around all the other players. You were just put in a room with your uniform and told to meet up on the field. You're missing 98% of the whole thing. You're missing the team, the camaraderie , the energy, the spirits, the willingness to combine efforts together and produce something good. When you're with a full group, you're inspired. And not only that, but the amount of laughter that ensued was just — you can't describe it. If it was school, we'd all be staying in detention.

Because it is so recognizable, have you ever thought of your voice as a liability in terms of getting other roles?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:03 pm

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so, my son wanted to get caught up so I gave episode 3 a second viewing this afternoon. There was one part I'll admit that intrigued me a bit.

When Op and Megs are conversing and the Requiem Blaster is referenced along with the Enigma of Combination, as powerful ancient relics,...I wonder what this is in reference to? Has the Requiem Blaster ever been mentioned outside of Armada?...maybe it will be a super weapon in PotP?

Also I know this is in some *alternate* OG continuity...but I cant think of any continuity off the top of my head that this would be remotely based on whereby, after Optimus Prime is Resurrected, that Megatron, Starscream, and the original seekers would still be around in the distant future...But I guess that's a good thing. Distancing this from the actual original series as much as possible.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:16 pm

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o.supreme wrote:so, my son wanted to get caught up so I gave episode 3 a second viewing this afternoon. There was one part I'll admit that intrigued me a bit.

When Op and Megs are conversing and the Requiem Blaster is referenced along with the Enigma of Combination, as powerful ancient relics,...I wonder what this is in reference to? Has the Requiem Blaster ever been mentioned outside of Armada?
Yes. The Aligned continuity reimagined a terrible weapon of devastating potential called the Requiem Blaster as the personal weapon of Megatronus. The novel trilogy and the Covenant of Primus went into more about it.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:59 pm

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The official Transformers Facebook page lists https://transformersprimewars.tumblr.com/ as the official host of the series for non-US viewers.
https://www.facebook.com/transformers/v ... 319446655/
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:25 am

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Tried to give this a shot on their tumblr. It kept reloading itself, so screw it. I care not.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:35 am

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:38 am

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The amount of posts I'm seeing on the Facebook ads asking where to watch the show, when said ads have links to both go90 and the Tumblr in them, is kind of timing my faith in the human race.
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