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Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:54 am

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Sorry...I just wasn't into this episode...I don't know if its merely longer that makes them more tolerated or what but...I don't really feeling like writing a full review like usual, so I'll just give my thoughts individually.

1. Trypticon toy gimmick to eat Titan Masters used (check)

2. Windblade is so annoying in this episode. Either Hasbro is delusional (Windblade's line about being a fan favorite), or they are trying to be in on the joke that people don't like her, to which I say...Hasbro (you don't get to be in on that joke...)

3. Trypticon is only 30 stories tall? (Probably a jokey line from the HB Godzilla cartoon), but anyway, that only makes him roughly 300 feet? Unless these are *Cybertronian stories*?? (is there such a thing?), which are maybe 30 feet tall , making him 900 feet tall...I can *kind of* get behind that. I mean as a huge fan of Godzilla I see all the comparisons people make with Trypticon. Matt Franks' IDW artwork is awesome etc... But its just a fantasy, There's no way these two could ever fight as the scale would be way off, unless Trypticon was in city mode and Godzilla was just allowed to rampage through it ;) .

4. Laser attack ineffective. The Combiners are killing it with all their button pushing :lol:

5. Megatron talking to the dying Mistress was probably the best part. Also can we rewind and see that previous alleged whoopin' Megatron put on Overlord last time

6. Dialogue....pauses....from Bill Shatner...school of....acting

7. Couldn't understand a word Overlord was saying, I just have 2 words here "Bad Touch"
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:01 pm

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:14 pm

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Bronzewolf in review 4 wrote:That's right! Somehow we're already half way through the second Machinima Transformers series,


Hate to burst your bubble there Bronzewolf, but there are 10 episodes to this series, your pain is going to have to endure a little longer, were not quite half way there yet.

...what?

westjames/notirish. wrote:There are 11 episodes... 4 is not the halfway point, 5 is.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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Machinima Transformers Titans Return Episode 5. Let's get it over with.

We open again on the Metroplex/Trypticon fight, as the giant robot Kaiju charges the City Titan. Windblade checks in on the fighting as Hot Rod arrives and we get something new in the series. Something completely revolutionary...
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Diagonal split frames!

The dialogue in this scene is especially badly paced. It doesn't flow like a normal conversation, and it's so apparent you can't ignore it. Hot Rod and Windblade join the battle, and Hot Rod actually gets a couple cool shots here that flow really nicely thanks to some pretty good animation!
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Like this! This was awesome! I know, I didn't expect it from this series either.

Hot Rod realizes the spirit of Starscream is within Trypticon as he and Windblade try to assist Metroplex. The city robot is taken down eventually by Trypticon, however, and Trypticon finishes him off with the most ridiculous scene in the series.
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Hey, guys? Yeah, Godzilla Vs. Gigan called. They want their campiness back.

It appears that Metroplex is defeated as Emissary ejects himself from the Titan's body. As he runs from the battle, Trypticon spots him and eats him, absorbing his Laserblast power. Hot Rod realizes that he must free Emissary as the laser beams fired by the Combiners in the previous episode finally arrive at their target and start falling from the sky. It doesn't phase Trypticon, as he continues to terrorize the city.
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Yep, singlehandedly destroying the city more than Trypicon and Metroplex combined. Good job, guys.

We cut away from the action for a moment to a tank entering the Mistress of Flame's prayer chamber. It's revealed to be Megatron, who discovers the Mistress' body on the floor. She uses the last of the power in her spark to ask him if the combiners were successful in reactivating Fortress Maximus. He says he doesn't know anything about that. She tells him Overlord has returned, and dies.
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Finally, the sarcasm of Megatron has come to save us all.

Back in the battle, Hot Rod makes it inside of Trypticon to save Emissary, and launches back out through Trypticon's eye. He trows Emissary to Windblade as Trypticon bats him across the city. Windblade rushes to his aid and promises she'll send Ratchet to help him.
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Ratchet?? Why can't he be in the show? But...but..

She transforms and takes Emissary away, mentioning that they haven't been properly introduced. Emissary already knows who she is, however, as she's well known amongst the Titan Masters. Windblade laughs and says that she's "Quite the fan favorite".

Yeah.
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Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.
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Can someone put Disco music over this? Please?

Eventually Hot Rod tries to shoot Overlord, but yet again it does nothing. Overlord then says he has something for Hot Rod, bestowing upon him what appears to be an evil matrix, turning him into what is assumed to be Rodimus Unicronus, although we never see that. It's certainly a twist that I didn't see coming, and is actually pretty intriguing. With that, episode 5 is over.

It's certainly one of the more action-packed, interesting episodes out of the lot so far, but I'm not certain that makes it good. There are severe issues with the pacing of the dialogue, but we've come to expect that by now. There are times when Windblade and Hot Rod are talking where you can tell the two voice overs were recorded at separate times, and there's a lot of emotional disconnect because of it. The animation at times, though, is actually really good. It shows how much of an improvement it's had over the previous series. The mouth movements are tighter, closer to the words actually being spoken, and characters are far less jerky. It's so much better that Combiner Wars, and the series is so much more enjoyable because of it.

Well, that's episode 5! Wanna watch it for yourself? You can find it over on Go90. Please share your thoughts below in the Energon Pub forums! Do you agree with me? Do you disagree? I want to hear it! Thanks for reading, and I'll see you all next week!
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:15 pm

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This was easily the worst episode yet.

The dialogue between Hot Rod and Windblade was atrocious. Terrible writing, probably made worse by that stupid face mask of Hot Rods.

A bunch of lasers fired by Fortress Maximus can't stop Trypticon. But Hot Rod is able to blast a hole into his side with his little hand gun. Yeah, okay, whatever.

The only thing I did enjoy was the background music. They've nailed the 80's style well.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:29 pm

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Hey, guys? Yeah, Godzilla Vs. Gigan Megalon called. They want their campiness back.


fix'd that for ya ;) . But truly, Godzilla did a goofy dive very similar to this in Godzilla X Megaguirus (2000)

Oh yeah, and I forgot the moment when Hot Rod breaks out of Trypticon's eye (callback to TFTM), we see glass shatter, but the eye stays in tact...wait...what???
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:33 pm

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Bronzewolf wrote: Image
Hey, guys? Yeah, Godzilla Vs. Gigan Megalon called. They want their campiness back.


fix'd that for ya ;) . But truly, Godzilla did a goofy dive very similar to this in Godzilla X Megaguirus (2000)


I just finished Megalon! Hilariously campy.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:47 pm

So is the sole purpose of Hot Rod's face mask, they don't have to match lip flaps to sound?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Etseterrestrial » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:06 pm

The series has been a big improvement over CW, but I still can't get over the terrible lip sync and "conversations" being made between the characters.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby karyuudo » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:42 pm

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I'm just amazed at how bad the writing and voice direction is for Hot Rod. I'm really shocked that we're listening to Judd Nelson, the same guy who's done Hot Rod in TFTM and TF Animated... and it's just horrendous. It's like he's tired / bored. :shock:
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:23 pm

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karyuudo wrote:I'm just amazed at how bad the writing and voice direction is for Hot Rod. I'm really shocked that we're listening to Judd Nelson, the same guy who's done Hot Rod in TFTM and TF Animated... and it's just horrendous. It's like he's tired / bored. :shock:

Exactly! He sounds so bored, Cullen sounded pretty lifeless, JDF isn't being allowed to emote... Perceptor is the only one who is fully expressive, although I'll grant Windblade and Overlord have some expression. The voice direction is just awful, and the awkward pauses in conversations aren't helping.

It's like this show is getting better and worse at the same time.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby notsoalex » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:39 pm

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Nexus Knight » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:05 pm

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This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Noideaforaname » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:01 am

Haha, Food Fight. I was totally expecting Overlord to just randomly pirouette mid-strut.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:38 am

Nexus Knight wrote:This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


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Okay, I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now... What is Food Fight?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:43 am

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Rodimus Knight wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


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Okay, I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now... What is Food Fight?


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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sunstar » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:31 am

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:58 am

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So I may be projecting out a bit but... The only way to own CW right now is as a bonus feature on the Target exclusive release of the Blu Ray of TF:TLK. I was thinking Hasbro might do the same for TR. However that becomes problematic in that the Bumblebee Movie isn't scheduled in theaters until 12/21/18, making for a Spring 2019 home media release. If we assume the PotP animated series will be late 2018 or early 2019 (now that I think about it...probably early 2019 by their schedule)...that means that it's end will probably coordinate near the release of the Bumblebee Movie on home media. Maybe it will include both series as bonus features? Or maybe...Hasbro will gives us one super craptacular special Blu Ray set with all 3 series included in its own release!?!... :-?
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Postby Sunstar » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:07 pm

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:35 pm

Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


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Okay, I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now... What is Food Fight?


Oh, young padawan. You have much to learn.



I recommend reading or watching something about the history of this film. This cost $65 Million to make, was delayed for over a decade, and the finished cut was stolen, so they had to redo everything over again.

I also recommend one of these three reviews. Extremely funny, and the movie really needs to be seen to be believed.





Where does one find this film to watch? I don't see it available on Amazon.
Sorry to be a pain, I feel the need to watch this now.
Saddly, far more then I feel the need to read the IDW comics.

Never mind, I just found it. I left it saw two words first time. Good news, its apparently available for free with Prime. Yay
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:37 pm

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Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:This is an "eh" episode for me. I wish the voice work was better, because this would've been twice as better (and funnier) if it had. The animation is pretty, tho. Except...

Bronzewolf wrote:Overlord arrives on the scene, and starts threatening the injured Hot Rod. As he talks, he makes the most bizarre movements in both Combiner Wars or Titans Return. He flails around like something out of Food Fight. I shouldn't be reminded of Food Fight when watching your TV show/Movie. Just as kind of a general rule.


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Kidding, or course. Keep up the good work!


Okay, I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now... What is Food Fight?


Oh, young padawan. You have much to learn.



I recommend reading or watching something about the history of this film. This cost $65 Million to make, was delayed for over a decade, and the finished cut was stolen, so they had to redo everything over again.

I also recommend one of these three reviews. Extremely funny, and the movie really needs to be seen to be believed.





Where does one find this film to watch? I don't see it available on Amazon.
Sorry to be a pain, I feel the need to watch this now.
Saddly, far more then I feel the need to read the IDW comics.


On YouTube! Just search Food fight Full Movie!
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:39 pm

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Bucket/Want List: Botcon 2016 Customization Class Ratchet (G2 Deco), or Customization Class Ratchet (Marvel Comics Deco) **would also be willing to pay for an Unpainted Botcon 2016 Ratchet, TT Legends Fortress Head (only) with working Electronics

Wish List of Modern Combiners: Road Caesar, Monstructor & Dinoking (proper size to fiction), Landcross, Guard City, Battle Gaia, & G2 Defensor. Wish List of Titans:Metrotitan,Majin Zarak
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:41 pm

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:31 pm

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Sunstar wrote:I just wish the tumbler version of it was not so fraggin cut off. It feels like I am missing stuff. But for what it is, its okay. Although it sounds like they are talking into coffee tins.
Sunstar wrote:I hope for a super craptacular Blueray general release. It annoys the slag out of me I cannot find it anywhere, and the tumbler site cuts it off.
You could just watch it on KimCartoon instead of Tumblr's disappointing-for-you version.
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