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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:54 am

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Yeah, that's.. disappointing. She was awful as Mystique.

I know from general internet chatter that John Krasinski is the popular choice for Mr Fantastic. Hopefully fifth time is the charm for the FF though and Marvel Studios can get at least one good film out of them.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:39 am

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I really hope thats not true, Jessica Alba was a better Sue Storm...and she wasn't what I'd called a good representation of Sue. Didn't mind the actor they had as Reed Richards in the old Fox films
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:02 am

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Oh god I hope she's not Sue, she sucked as Mystique and didn't really sell me too much on her role in the Panem movies.

And seriously, WandaVision just sucks you in every episode. Maybe it's partially because th only real exposure I had to Wanda was House of M and other Spider-Man relevant appearances, but I love how the show surprises me every time. I have absolutely no idea what could happen next, because every episode manages to flip my expectations.

I got super exited by this week's commercial, and the ending confrontation because all I could think of was Nexus of All Realities and Man-Thing. Seriously, I wanted Man-Thing in the MCU since they teased him in Agent's of SHIELD, which I think is non-canon since the movies never acknowledge it. But then I went to reddit to bask in the glory of finally being able to predict something without needing hints or having stuff pointed out by others who read her comics just to learn that it's the wrong Nexus.

Also, if the book we see is actually the Darkhold, that kinda proves that AOS is non canon, since it looks different from what it looked like there.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:52 am

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I suspect it is different as back then the TV side and movies were run by different units. Though were they to do Agents of Shield now, it'd be a much different story.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:58 am

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From what I recall AoS was originally supposed to be part of the film canon. Then it was decided it wasn't. For example, Agent Coulson has been dead since Avengers Assemble, in the films. This hasn't been corrected outside of the show. The Inhumans too, have been quietly swept under the rug. Now that The Eternals and X-Men are on their way. I doubt they will ever resurface. Perhaps beyond the rumoured Ms. Marvel Show/Film.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:01 am

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Given that Ms. Mavel us supposed to be appearing in Captain Marvel 2, I do wonder if they'll be going a different route with her origin. I can definitely see Cap Marvel 2 dropping before her show hits
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:34 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:From what I recall AoS was originally supposed to be part of the film canon. Then it was decided it wasn't. For example, Agent Coulson has been dead since Avengers Assemble, in the films. This hasn't been corrected outside of the show. The Inhumans too, have been quietly swept under the rug. Now that The Eternals and X-Men are on their way. I doubt they will ever resurface. Perhaps beyond the rumoured Ms. Marvel Show/Film.

Yeah, I remember. The show was hyped up as being set in the MCU and being an important part of it, it was even supposed to bridge the gap between movies and introduce a brand new Superhero into the MCU (Quake) as well as Supervillains. But the movies never acknowledged the show, the show kept bending over backwards to fit the MCU, but the movies never even hinted at it.
Which is a bit of a shame, the Ghost Rider it had was so far the best non comic version of the character, despite not being based on a "real" Ghost Rider. Seriously, the guy who played that version put everything else to shame, be it live action Ghost Riders, or even his own cast members. Best part of the whole show.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:51 am

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I really hope Ghost Rider is given a chance someday. Forget Johnny Blaze and the "new" Ghost Rider (whose name escapes me). That was loosely adapted for AoS. Go all in on Danny Ketch with a clean slate. He was essentially the "Wally West" of Ghost Rider anyway IE the one that all the cool powers and story moments came from.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Blastback » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:54 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:From what I recall AoS was originally supposed to be part of the film canon. Then it was decided it wasn't. For example, Agent Coulson has been dead since Avengers Assemble, in the films. This hasn't been corrected outside of the show. The Inhumans too, have been quietly swept under the rug. Now that The Eternals and X-Men are on their way. I doubt they will ever resurface. Perhaps beyond the rumoured Ms. Marvel Show/Film.

think it had to do with the beef between Feige and Perlmutter.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Blastback » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:55 pm

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also sounds like Deadpool will be staying rated r
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:02 am

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Latest WandaVision episode was awesome. Spoiler thoughts.
So if I understood correctly, Wanda was always magical after all. The Mind stone did not give her powers, or enhance them, her powers were what kept her alive. The Mindstone killed every test subject to that point. Instead of dying, she sees her future self (god that was epic), becomes aware of her powers and Hydra treat her as now being powered. Quicksilver also survived due to being related to her, maybe even because of a hex she subconsciously cast on him.

Agatha said she felt all these spells being cadt and got curious. The beginning scene has her begging her mother to help her understand ans control her powers. To me it kinda looks like she was curious and hoped that a witch so powerful could maybe help her.

Now, I wasn't super well-versed in her comic version, only really what was relevant to Spider-Man, so when Nexus showed up I thought it was Nexus of all Realities, then learned of Nexus Beings, a term I had heard before but didn't know what exactly it was till after I read up on them.

So Agatha goes to WestView, finds Wanda is confused why she's doing what she's doing and investigates it.
She first thinks Wanda is fully aware and a powerful witch, but slowly realises what she actually is. She's trying to kill the twins, because if how dangerous they are as children of a Nexus Being. And she's now terrified of Wanda because she's a Nexus Being, not aware of it or what she can do and that reminds her of herself from the opening scene.

The Sitcom Vision we've been following is basically his sol, the last thing Wanda creates is his mind stone, which also looked like it wasn't affected by Vision trying to leave the Hex. Maybe it's actually a real copy or ressurected stone.

I don't think the show will end with Vision and White Vision merging in order to restore Vision fully, I believe that's going to happen in the Doctor Strange sequel, otherwise general audiences will be too confused. That way they can have White Vision show up with a feeylines of "he's the reactivated corpse of Vision", Wanda can try to get him back during the movie and cause conflict.

Not so sure about Hayward now.
He lied about Wanda and Vision.
In the flashback he lets on that he knows Wanda can bring him back while showing her how they're taking him apart. The thing is, while doing it, he comes across as kinda scared and scincere, as if he's actually feeling for her and trying to convince her and himself that Vision is just vibranium he has to salvage.
Thing is, he made it look like they were recycling Vision for his vibranium. But, then we later see that he had him fixed up. It's not a reverse engeneered weapon, it's Vision's restored body.

So what exactly does he want to do?

He has been shown in a villainous light from the beginning, but it kinda looks like he just wanted to bring back Vision. Was he a red herring all along?

We've all been hoping to see a villain, but Agatha doesn't seem like one, Wanda was oblivious to what she was doing and Hayward used the drone simply to get the kind of juice to revive Vision.

It also doesn't feel like the penultimate episode.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:41 pm

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Something interesting about the music in WandaVision.

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According to the comments it's called "The Devil's Interval".
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Blastback » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:58 pm

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gotta get around to finally watching it.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Op! » Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:32 am

I enjoyed wandavision. Especially the last few episodes.


Any thoughts on the new falcon and the winter soldier show. I am enjoying the episodes I have seen so far.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby TulioDude » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:37 pm

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I'm enjoying Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby TulioDude » Mon May 10, 2021 4:45 pm

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HYPE
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby BdazmedPrim » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:10 am

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So excited - think I'm burning alive till I waiting for it!

Venom is an excellent interpretation of every one of us with its bad and good voices inside.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Christiano » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:44 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I know from general internet chatter that John Krasinski is the popular choice for Mr Fantastic.


As much as I like the idea of fans influencing casting, this isn't an instance of it I'd like to see. Tom Cruise as alternate-dimension Iron Man though? That'd be perfect.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby Christiano » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:36 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:From what I recall AoS was originally supposed to be part of the film canon. Then it was decided it wasn't. For example, Agent Coulson has been dead since Avengers Assemble, in the films. This hasn't been corrected outside of the show. The Inhumans too, have been quietly swept under the rug. Now that The Eternals and X-Men are on their way. I doubt they will ever resurface. Perhaps beyond the rumoured Ms. Marvel Show/Film.


It's really frustrating the way that there are several really good TV shows which don't tie into the canon at this point. Hopefully they keep Jon Bernthal around.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:39 am

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Christiano wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:From what I recall AoS was originally supposed to be part of the film canon. Then it was decided it wasn't. For example, Agent Coulson has been dead since Avengers Assemble, in the films. This hasn't been corrected outside of the show. The Inhumans too, have been quietly swept under the rug. Now that The Eternals and X-Men are on their way. I doubt they will ever resurface. Perhaps beyond the rumoured Ms. Marvel Show/Film.


It's really frustrating the way that there are several really good TV shows which don't tie into the canon at this point. Hopefully they keep Jon Bernthal around.

The problem with TV shows was the logistics of trying to entwine things between completely different departments with multiple different factors. This is why Agents of Shield's movie tie ins were quite weak to the point where people weren't even sure that Infinity War was referenced.

This is also why Marvel TV and marvel movies were combined under one roof, giving rise to the Disney+ shows and everything else going forward.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:16 am

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A friend said to me "you're an X-Men fan. Now they are on their way, how would you like them to look in the MCU?"

"Like an Alex Ross painting" I replied:

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You've got to make them look different. To both their previous films and the Avengers. To stand out from the crowd. Because that's what Mutants are supposed to do.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby #1 Signal Lancer fan » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:47 am

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Christiano wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:From what I recall AoS was originally supposed to be part of the film canon. Then it was decided it wasn't. For example, Agent Coulson has been dead since Avengers Assemble, in the films. This hasn't been corrected outside of the show. The Inhumans too, have been quietly swept under the rug. Now that The Eternals and X-Men are on their way. I doubt they will ever resurface. Perhaps beyond the rumoured Ms. Marvel Show/Film.


It's really frustrating the way that there are several really good TV shows which don't tie into the canon at this point. Hopefully they keep Jon Bernthal around.


I'm hoping they bring back Daredevil on Disney+ or at least bring the character into other shows/movies. Marvel wasn't able to use him outside of Netflix for two years post-cancellation but that two years ended last November, meaning something could be in development.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:32 pm

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Well, he is going to be in the next Spider-Man film. So that is as good an indication as any.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby #1 Signal Lancer fan » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:00 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Well, he is going to be in the next Spider-Man film. So that is as good an indication as any.


Do you have a source on him being in the next Spider-Man?
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV) Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:40 am

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I can't even remember how those rumours started :-? Wasn't it like someone had seen Charlie Cox in set or something?

We'll know for sure either way soon.
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