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since my last fantasy battle was fail
batle takes place in a cybertron shipping yard
Master chief has his assault rifle, 2 plasma grenades,1 pistol,combat knife and an energy sword
Rampage has his triple-barrel cannon and his rifle

Rampage 0wnz. One well-placed barrage takes Master Chief out.

gotta give it to the chief.

after playing legendary, I'd have to say Rampage since he can't really go down.

7 foot guy vs a 35 foot robot?

shortwave wrote:7 foot guy vs a 35 foot robot?

Arnt the BW robots like the size of humans?

Either way, Rampage.

SlyTF1 wrote:

shortwave wrote:7 foot guy vs a 35 foot robot?

Arnt the BW robots like the size of humans?

Either way, Rampage.

Yeah, actually they are. As I mentioned in Slipstream vs. Airazor, the BW cast are shown to by puny when they stand next to the Autobots and Decepticons.

sorry i thaught thay wer the size of the reguler transformers

chief all the way why?? cuz a well aimed burst from chiefs AR ( Assault Rifle ) to the spark chamber and rampage is X_X plus chief'srmor is nearly indestructible i mean he fell from space onto earth and survived and in the fall of reach ( the book ) is says that the SPARTAN-II's were injected with somethinsg to make there bones nearly indestructible so yea chief all the frggin way.

OmegaPrime98 wrote:chief all the way why?? cuz a well aimed burst from chiefs AR ( Assault Rifle ) to the spark chamber and rampage is X_X plus chief'srmor is nearly indestructible i mean he fell from space onto earth and survived and in the fall of reach ( the book ) is says that the SPARTAN-II's were injected with somethinsg to make there bones nearly indestructible so yea chief all the frggin way.

Rampage has an indestructible spark

PredwolfZ wrote:

OmegaPrime98 wrote:chief all the way why?? cuz a well aimed burst from chiefs AR ( Assault Rifle ) to the spark chamber and rampage is X_X plus chief'srmor is nearly indestructible i mean he fell from space onto earth and survived and in the fall of reach ( the book ) is says that the SPARTAN-II's were injected with somethinsg to make there bones nearly indestructible so yea chief all the frggin way.

Rampage has an indestructible spark

If you said Chief would win then why are you defending Rampage?

"Is that fear you're feeling, Spartan?"

Rampage by far, but Master Chief would put up a very good fight. Rampage's indestructible spark makes him near impossible to keep down.

Rampage, he can only be killed with you ram a raw energon spike in his spark.
Master chief can't wield raw energon without serious harm coming to him.

Stormwolf wrote:Rampage, he can only be killed with you ram a raw energon spike in his spark.
Master chief can't wield raw energon without serious harm coming to him.

Raw Energon radiation has no effect on organic beings, that was the entire point of Beast Mode, and native life was shown to be completely immune to it. Even so, Master Chief's suit is shielded against that sort of thing.

Shadowman wrote:Raw Energon radiation has no effect on organic beings, that was the entire point of Beast Mode, and native life was shown to be completely immune to it.

Fowler got seriously hurt when he came into contact with energon. The animals in Beast Wars never got close to the Energon deposits

Shadowman wrote:Even so, Master Chief's suit is shielded against that sort of thing.

You can't know what the effects of energon will be.

Stormwolf wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Raw Energon radiation has no effect on organic beings, that was the entire point of Beast Mode, and native life was shown to be completely immune to it.

Fowler got seriously hurt when he came into contact with energon.

When did that happen? You're not talking about that cattle prod thing Starscream used on him, are you? That was an Energon weapon, but there's a huge difference between just a sharp of Energon, and a shard that's been weaponized.

Stormwolf wrote:The animals in Beast Wars never got close to the Energon deposits

And? The effects of raw Energon covered the entire planet, that's why they needed Beast modes. Even so, the Maximals and Predacons are shown getting close to it in Beast mode, so even at close range it doesn't effect their organic components.

Stormwolf wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Even so, Master Chief's suit is shielded against that sort of thing.

You can't know what the effects of energon will be.

Yeah we do. Overexposure causes damage to non-organic beings, but organic beings are shown to be completely unharmed by it. Both the Maximal and Predacon ships used shields to protect against it, so they could stay in robot mode unharmed on their ships.

gotta go with the chief for this one; metal beats rock, and superheated plasma beats metal.
besides, the cheif is way smarter than rampage and has lots of experience fighting oppponents much bigger and stronger than he is.

Duskish wrote:gotta go with the chief for this one; metal beats rock, and superheated plasma beats metal.
besides, the cheif is way smarter than rampage and has lots of experience fighting oppponents much bigger and stronger than he is.

Um, you've seen Beast wars have you?

Chief may be super human but unless cheif can get that plasma sword into Rampage's chest (and we haven't really established that it could destroy his spark yet.) its only going to do temporary damage. Besides, chief wouldn't necessarily know to stab him in the chest with it. Plus he'd have to be dodging the crab's ordinance and his claws in crab mode. Grenades and RPG rounds may knock rampage around but he's just going to get back up.

Super heated plasma doesn't necessarily equal raw energon crystal.

But lets say that chief could get his hands on raw energon; if its enough to cause damage to inorganic systems then if his shields are taken down his own armor systems would begin to be effected.

Psycho Warrior wrote:But lets say that chief could get his hands on raw energon; if its enough to cause damage to inorganic systems then if his shields are taken down his own armor systems would begin to be effected.

I would think John's shields would be enough to ward off the effect of raw Energon from his suit, like the bases do, but if Rampage can knock that down, then it MIGHT effect his suit. I don't know if it's been explained how or if raw Energon can effect non-Cybertronian tech.

Shadowman wrote:

Psycho Warrior wrote:But lets say that chief could get his hands on raw energon; if its enough to cause damage to inorganic systems then if his shields are taken down his own armor systems would begin to be effected.

I would think John's shields would be enough to ward off the effect of raw Energon from his suit, like the bases do, but if Rampage can knock that down, then it MIGHT effect his suit. I don't know if it's been explained how or if raw Energon can effect non-Cybertronian tech.

I imagine it doesn't make a difference if it was Cybertronian or not if the energon was in high enough concentration like in Dark Voyage where the maximals were blinded. I'm not sure how much would be needed to affect his suit, but certainly the proximity to raw energon can't be good for it. Thing is, it would probably effect any covie weapons Cheif would have on hand.

But lets say that chief could get his hands on raw energon; if its enough to cause damage to inorganic systems then if his shields are taken down his own armor systems would begin to be effected.

Not to mention if Rampage gets a lucky shot that hits the crystal it explodes in Chief's face.

Twitchythe3rd wrote:

But lets say that chief could get his hands on raw energon; if its enough to cause damage to inorganic systems then if his shields are taken down his own armor systems would begin to be effected.

Not to mention if Rampage gets a lucky shot that hits the crystal it explodes in Chief's face.

that's a good point. energon in any form is pretty easy to destabilize and it creates a huge explosion. I imagine a sword or dagger sized crystal would be create an explosion about the same as a plasma grenade or bigger.

It's really unfair to match trainee chefs in a death match with an unstoppable metal crab monster. Rampage wins.