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by **mongrel** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:26 am

Yeah for $90 they could have at least thrown some rubber tires on there. I know some people prefer plastic though since it doesn't break down.

by **zappatton2** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:45 am

I have yet to recieve my Sideswipe, but I can tell you right off the bat, the lack of rubber tires is already my biggest disappointment. I'll be super-peeved if the Hasbro release has rubber tires, only because of already invested in Takara Sideswipe and Red Alert. Also, it most certainly means all future MP car releases will also avoid rubber. This makes me a sad panda. But who knows, maybe a third party will sell tires and a tool to assist in making a swap?

by **mongrel** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:24 pm

Wait until you inspect the paint job before claiming your biggest disappointment. Might be fine, might not. Just... wait. >:oP

As for a third party yeah that'd be nice, but unfortunately this isn't a pegged-in piece - it would likely be really hard to remove them from the rivets.

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:35 pm

zappatton2 wrote:I have yet to recieve my Sideswipe, but I can tell you right off the bat, the lack of rubber tires is already my biggest disappointment. I'll be super-peeved if the Hasbro release has rubber tires, only because of already invested in Takara Sideswipe and Red Alert. Also, it most certainly means all future MP car releases will also avoid rubber. This makes me a sad panda. But who knows, maybe a third party will sell tires and a tool to assist in making a swap?

The one good thing about plastic tires is that they don't degrade like rubber tires do. In order to prolong their lifespan, you'd have to lubricate rubber tires every few months if left exposed on shelves, heat and under sunlight. In storage, it'd still be a good idea to lubricate them every six months to a year.

by **zappatton2** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:29 am

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
zappatton2 wrote:I have yet to recieve my Sideswipe, but I can tell you right off the bat, the lack of rubber tires is already my biggest disappointment. I'll be super-peeved if the Hasbro release has rubber tires, only because of already invested in Takara Sideswipe and Red Alert. Also, it most certainly means all future MP car releases will also avoid rubber. This makes me a sad panda. But who knows, maybe a third party will sell tires and a tool to assist in making a swap?

The one good thing about plastic tires is that they don't degrade like rubber tires do. In order to prolong their lifespan, you'd have to lubricate rubber tires every few months if left exposed on shelves, heat and under sunlight. In storage, it'd still be a good idea to lubricate them every six months to a year.

I have no doubt of this, as I have seen pretty degraded tires on some toys I'd seen on eBay, but I've still got my G1s from the 80's, and their tires have never shown signs of wear, nor my original MP Prime and Binaltechs, which are getting closer to a decade old. Maybe it's a climate thing? I live in a very humid area.

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:47 am

zappatton2 wrote:I have no doubt of this, as I have seen pretty degraded tires on some toys I'd seen on eBay, but I've still got my G1s from the 80's, and their tires have never shown signs of wear, nor my original MP Prime and Binaltechs, which are getting closer to a decade old. Maybe it's a climate thing? I live in a very humid area.

Yeah, climate has a lot to do with the lifespan of plastic and rubber. Strangely, tough, the rubber tires on my M.A.S.K. Thunderhawk split after ten years in storage, and I live in Asia, one of the most humid places in the world. Then again, it could be the heat.

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:18 am

Rubber's biggest killer is the shifting of dry to humid over and over again.
Also incandescent and halogen light will kill rubber.

by **President-prime** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:45 am

Love sideswipe and adores red alert. But after all these reports, I'm glad I didn't preorder the thing. And I hate he fact that its a little bigger than a deluxe. That's not masterpiece

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:28 am

President-prime wrote:Love sideswipe and adores red alert. But after all these reports, I'm glad I didn't preorder the thing. And I hate he fact that its a little bigger than a deluxe. That's not masterpiece

He's a lot bigger than deluxe, especially the modern deluxes.

by **Fox Thiagarajan** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:35 am

Hi everyone. I haven't posted in a while, (busy with life changes) but have been collecting when I was able and I preordered MP-12 a while ago. I feel awful for those who are running into QC issues with this figure, but the one I preordered from BBTS arrived 2 days ago and it is so far issue free. There is a small speck of black paint noticable in his vehicle mode on the passenger side door. Other than this, I have combed over the entire figure and he is fine, in fact even pretty great. Joints are firm and not too tight. I just want people to know that there are probably some decent MP 12s.

by **cffincher** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:14 am

Got my MP-12 yesterday. I have mixed feelings on this toy. The design and engineering are awesome but the final product's quality is lacking as the black paint masks are not too sharp and the red paint is not consistent or smooth on all parts. Not too noticeable, but not as sharp as it could be. I got mine for around $45 after Yen conversion before shipping, so I'm not too disappointed.

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:47 pm

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:26 am

So after a fair bit of emailing between myself and China based seller 366offer who supplied my faulty MP-12 Lambor, a resolve was finally made.

After sending many close-up photos of the problems, a couple more emails, the seller asked me to name my refund or to send the figure back for a full refund.
I wasnt keen on sending him back overseas, worried he'd turn up on a desert island somewhere rather than his intended destination!

I requested a partial refund which I would hope could cover any costs to myself for its repair etc. I was offered £15. :-?

Emailing the seller, nice as pie 'n all, I made a slightly larger suggestion which was turned down, for £15 once again?

I felt somewhat annoyed and just wanted to send the entire thing back. This was my second Takara Masterpiece, hoping to stand alongside Takara Starscream, Hasbro Prime, Hasbro Hot Rod, Hasbro Grimlock, Hasbro Skywarp and the Movie Leaders.

After cooling off for a couple of days I decided to take my case to Ebay/PayPal for their thoughts on the matter.
I was more than pleased when Ebay came back to me with an offer of a 50% refund from the total price! Thats a payment of £24 for a faulty Masterpiece! Doesnt feel that bad now...

Looks like I need to do a fair bit of swotting up regarding pin removal.

I can only hope everyone else who are encountering issues with their MP-12s reach a resolve with their respective sellers.
Poor QC issues on any figure, let alone what should be a Masterpiece, should be stopped whilst in the factories, not sold as being new and mint.

I wont make the same mistake with MP Thundercracker or Optimus v2!

by **Motorthing** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:10 am

Mine finally turned up from Kapow - I paid a lot more than you did but at least some of that price bypassed the bum-rape of a customs charge and I got an as near perfect Sideswipe as I'm going to get - so I got what I paid for. He's way too small for an MP but I suppose this downsizing is the trend-de-jour and having him in hand his pretty much the perfect representation of Sideswipe - he will never be done better than this and I rank him up with MP Grimlock as my fave MP's.

I know Red Alert is coming shortly and Sunstreaker cant be that far away (will Takara have the balls to retool the mold for Sunny or will we just get a yellow repaint with a new head.......?) but I cant help wanting all the '84 cars as MP's now to make up for the mostly disappointing Binaltech series.

Jazz and Prowl/Bluestreak next Tak. Please.

by **zappatton2** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:54 pm

Just got my Sideswipe today, thankfully all the paint applications look pretty good. Aside from the gripes that I wish he was a little bit bigger, and had rubber tires, everything else about this figure is spot-on! I like that he fits together really well in both modes. I find with my MP Rodimus, leg panels are always swinging out, or car mode just doesn't quite snap together all that well, but this guy is really stable in all modes, and doesn't suffer the sort of mis-allignment and visible gaps that I see in most of my other MPs.

by **necr0blivion** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:39 pm

I just got my order in this afternoon, and I absolutely love the design! Wonderful transformation sequences and the legs are probably my favorite sections to complete. I really like that the black bottom gets pushed over and helps fill in the hallow area.

What I don't like are the paint apps. It seems that the coat of red paint on some panels weren't thick enough, and there's a small stress mark on his visor. I might just touch that up with some black paint or a marker. Thankfully the silver paint apps are pretty near perfect.

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:52 am

So I decided to check a couple of YouTube video tutorials regrding the removal of steel pins from Transformers.
These short and informative clips gave me the confidence to take a crack at my factory faulty MP-12 Lambor.
Its tool time!

I unscrewed the rear panel (butt) which released the upper body from his legs.
First part successfully done.

Now the difficult part. I carefully started tapping at the problem pin until I felt movement, this gave me a small piece of pint to grip with pliers.
Gently pulling and twisting at the pin it popped out with ease.
Second part successfully done!

Turning the waist/hinge part around, popped the pin back in and tapped it back. All good.
Slotted the upper body back onto the legs and reattached his butt.
Job done!

My relief that I hadnt destroyed this Masterpiece was met with a loud Homer-style 'Woo Hoo'!

A couple of twists and turns and Transformers MP-12 Lambor was successfully transformed as he should be!
After my initial excitement of receiving him, marvelling at his awesome alt mode, then the let down of him being built incorrectly, this has given my feelings towards this latest Takara Masterpiece offering a much needed boost.

Now I just need to tackle his poorly glued head!
By the way, why has he got a flip open head? :???:

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:59 am

Nice one. Well done.

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:23 am

robotmel wrote:By the way, why has he got a flip open head?

It's to allow clearance for the head to fit in alt mode. It gets pretty cramped in there.

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:24 pm

Glad to hear you've fixed your Lambor, Robotmel.

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:15 pm

robotmel wrote:Job done!

My relief that I hadnt destroyed this Masterpiece was met with a loud Homer-style 'Woo Hoo'!

A couple of twists and turns and Transformers MP-12 Lambor was successfully transformed as he should be!
After my initial excitement of receiving him, marvelling at his awesome alt mode, then the let down of him being built incorrectly, this has given my feelings towards this latest Takara Masterpiece offering a much needed boost.

Nice work, glad you now properly enjoy MP-12!

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:03 am

After taking a closer look at MP-12s poorly head, its another disaster, just like the waist! #-o

There is a steel pin which goes through the front part of the head which seems to hold on his face?
Now this pin is too short which is why hes doing a Travola/Cage face off!

Ive decided not to tackle this pin as I dont have a replacement long enough, so its going to get glued, being careful not to accidentally glued his flip back head down also!!

I wonder if its possible to get a complete replacement head for MP-12?
Maybe some 3rd party company will create one.

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:10 am

robotmel wrote:I wonder if its possible to get a complete replacement head for MP-12?
Maybe some 3rd party company will create one.

Maybe someone on Shapeways will have a go. You could always commission one.

It's so good to read that you fixed your figure.

News Credits: 4 · by **ReinaHW** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:11 pm

My Masterpiece Sideswipe arrived last Thursday - £78.49 in total from Kapow Toys, arrived a day after being dispatched - and thankfully I haven't had any QC problems with him. The paint work is in great condition, no parts put together badly. He's in pretty much perfect condition, I like him a lot more than MP Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime and Megatron, that's for sure.

Now to keep waiting for the hopeful release of MP-10 Optimus Prime in the UK, still waiting.

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:34 am

ReinaHW wrote:Now to keep waiting for the hopeful release of MP-10 Optimus Prime in the UK, still waiting.

Hoping Toys R Us get MP Thundercracker first... but MP Prime will do! :lol:

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