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Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed May 15, 2019 2:09 pm

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Yep, the height is wrong. So much for the show accurate scaling. I'd imagine they couldn't justify charging more than Optimus Primal for a figure that should be about the size of Rattrap >:oP


Yup, your absolutely right. She should be just a bit shorter then cheetor. Images in the video make her look about the same height as primal. This kinda bothers me more so then the legs in beast mode. but we are still looking at a hand painted prototype. so it could still (unlikely) change. it could be a trick of the camera angle too.

I'm still getting her. Her robot mode is fantastic and shes my fave BW character, so it is kinda obligatory to do so. But for her not fit in with the others the right way on my shelf is not great.


It's possible they couldn't make the figure any smaller and still retain the spot-on robot mode, level of articulation, and what passes for the beast mode. To keep everything proportional, you're going to have to scale down everything, even the smallest of joints, so everything looks right. Parts that are too small will break from normal usage, so they have to be a certain minimum size. That's a tall order for a character that has such curvy proportions on such a slender frame. Otherwise, a different piece will have to be engineered which may detract from the figure aesthetically or limit its poseability or functionality. In other words, Masterpiece Blackarachnia may be the smallest she can be and still be worthy of the "Masterpiece" name.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Evil Eye » Wed May 15, 2019 2:09 pm

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Yikes, that's a hefty price. I want it, but I'll definitely be waiting for reviews in case Dinobot and Megatron's QC issues carry on to her. For £130 I want her to be perfect.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Autobot Roadburn » Wed May 15, 2019 2:13 pm

I think she is. when she's next to Primal in the video their heads are about eye to eye, but since she's standing on the base it looks to me like her feet are about level with the top of Primal's leg pistons. That should make her just barely noticeably shorter than Cheetor. It's not the greatest quality comparison to work with so I could be wrong but at least she's not massive. I think we just need better comparison shots. Regardless I'm absolutely picking her up.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed May 15, 2019 2:20 pm

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What this means for MP Rattrap and MP Airazor is somewhat concerning. If they are all going to be roughly Cheetor's height, I think the complete line will look a bit odd. Hopefully MP Tarantulas will still be taller than BA. Although that will make him look off when next to Primal :-?

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed May 15, 2019 5:31 pm

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I just placed my Amazon Japan pre-order. $116 shipped seems fairly ok with me, as does the late November release. Gives me time after TFcon
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Ironhidensh » Wed May 15, 2019 6:57 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I just placed my Amazon Japan pre-order. $116 shipped seems fairly ok with me, as does the late November release. Gives me time after TFcon



Man, I really like the looks of the figure. Compromises kinda suck, but are easily overlooked. That price though.... way too much. I wouldn't be willing to pay more than $80. Ah well, we are finally getting a KO of Dinobot, so I can hope for this dark poison of a birddog's heart.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed May 15, 2019 7:03 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I just placed my Amazon Japan pre-order. $116 shipped seems fairly ok with me, as does the late November release. Gives me time after TFcon

Man, I really like the looks of the figure. Compromises kinda suck, but are easily overlooked. That price though.... way too much. I wouldn't be willing to pay more than $80. Ah well, we are finally getting a KO of Dinobot, so I can hope for this dark poison of a birddog's heart.

I would not pay the $140 for it, but $115 is much better. And I'm still hoping the price drops a bit more. I think it's an OK price. And I doubt I'll get another MP BW figure. I'm perfectly happy with the rest of my figures that are on the shelf.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 15, 2019 7:41 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I just placed my Amazon Japan pre-order. $116 shipped seems fairly ok with me, as does the late November release. Gives me time after TFcon

Man, I really like the looks of the figure. Compromises kinda suck, but are easily overlooked. That price though.... way too much. I wouldn't be willing to pay more than $80. Ah well, we are finally getting a KO of Dinobot, so I can hope for this dark poison of a birddog's heart.

I would not pay the $140 for it, but $115 is much better. And I'm still hoping the price drops a bit more. I think it's an OK price. And I doubt I'll get another MP BW figure. I'm perfectly happy with the rest of my figures that are on the shelf.

Saying it's available on amazon is always big news since not everyone reads the forums (and other vendors get their own sponsor news story). Can any of you take a screen shot of your order on amazon, showing the shipping charge and total price so that we can news it?

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Blackalekthor » Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 pm

Two beautiful spiders pre-ordered. Yeaaaaaah. Now what's the number of the devil? I'll offer him my soul. Jiji :PREDACON:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Stargrave » Wed May 15, 2019 10:05 pm

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I don’t own any MP’s I’ll be honest I could never afford them but like so much of this stuff I appreciate them from afar or through the cool galleries here but this ones important - I mean Black Arachnia was fortunately an awesome character but she’ll always be the first female TF toy that I ever had. I know some Japanese characters preceded her but for just a kid growing up in the states she was the first, my BW Arcee. I wish they’d been more creative but she does look like the cartoon come to life. Not arguing anybody’s points just love that character it’s nice to see her considered for a MP. It’s like a beautiful Revoltech Arachnia that also whoa watch out can approximate a spider.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Emerje » Wed May 15, 2019 11:22 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I just placed my Amazon Japan pre-order. $116 shipped seems fairly ok with me, as does the late November release. Gives me time after TFcon

Man, I really like the looks of the figure. Compromises kinda suck, but are easily overlooked. That price though.... way too much. I wouldn't be willing to pay more than $80. Ah well, we are finally getting a KO of Dinobot, so I can hope for this dark poison of a birddog's heart.

I would not pay the $140 for it, but $115 is much better. And I'm still hoping the price drops a bit more. I think it's an OK price. And I doubt I'll get another MP BW figure. I'm perfectly happy with the rest of my figures that are on the shelf.

Saying it's available on amazon is always big news since not everyone reads the forums (and other vendors get their own sponsor news story). Can any of you take a screen shot of your order on amazon, showing the shipping charge and total price so that we can news it?

thanks

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That's with a 25% discount and the sales tax removed. Should be noted that the based price for stores is 16,500 JPY instead of the Takara Tomy Mall price of 16,200 JPY meaning TTM got a rare discount (that still isn't close to the discount normal retailers have). There is a chance of the Amazon price still coming down since it's covered by the pre-order price guarantee.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu May 16, 2019 3:54 am

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Nice, around £95 before customs charges and parcel farce handling fees that will no doubt be applied to it for us in the U.K
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu May 16, 2019 9:29 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:UK Update:

Pre-orders are now up on In Demand Toys. Tentative release date "November"...

£129.99 :-?

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu May 16, 2019 6:37 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:UK Update:

Pre-orders are now up on In Demand Toys. Tentative release date "November"...

£129.99 :-?

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£109.99 @ Kapow Toys

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That's a pretty good one.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Stargrave » Thu May 16, 2019 6:53 pm

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...now I keep thinking of a MP Silverbolt...that would be rad...
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu May 16, 2019 7:04 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:...now I keep thinking of a MP Silverbolt...that would be rad...
If only Japan actually cared about Beast Wars Metals.

If only.

we'll probably never get MPs beyond season 1, which is a shame. Though I feel that if we do get a single MP BW past season 1, it would be Silverbolt.

I wish we could get a MP Tigerhawk though
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 16, 2019 7:12 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:...now I keep thinking of a MP Silverbolt...that would be rad...
If only Japan actually cared about Beast Wars Metals.

If only.

we'll probably never get MPs beyond season 1, which is a shame. Though I feel that if we do get a single MP BW past season 1, it would be Silverbolt.

I wish we could get a MP Tigerhawk though
Yeah, about the only non-Season 1 BW character who has any kind of chance of getting a MP figure under normal circumstances (that is, without outside-of-TakaraTomy help from something like a fan vote) is Lio Convoy.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu May 16, 2019 7:13 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:...now I keep thinking of a MP Silverbolt...that would be rad...
If only Japan actually cared about Beast Wars Metals.

If only.

we'll probably never get MPs beyond season 1, which is a shame. Though I feel that if we do get a single MP BW past season 1, it would be Silverbolt.

I wish we could get a MP Tigerhawk though
Yeah, about the only non-Season 1 BW character who has any kind of chance of getting a MP figure under normal circumstances (that is, without outside-of-TakaraTomy help from something like a fan vote) is Lio Convoy.

What about Big Convoy?
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Postby Ironhidensh » Thu May 16, 2019 7:17 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:...now I keep thinking of a MP Silverbolt...that would be rad...
If only Japan actually cared about Beast Wars Metals.

If only.

we'll probably never get MPs beyond season 1, which is a shame. Though I feel that if we do get a single MP BW past season 1, it would be Silverbolt.

I wish we could get a MP Tigerhawk though



Depends on if you late willing to look outside of "official" channels. Not much yet, but they are starting to branch in that direction.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Stargrave » Thu May 16, 2019 7:17 pm

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Ok I don’t know if he’s my favorite character from BW but he’s in the top 3, and comes in #1 for the coolest from that series. That show, the animation never was 100% for me but damn the writing. How they did that with Tigatron and Airazor I thought it was just ten pounds of awesome in a five pound bag. The last season felt rushed to me but they squeezed in so much epic stuff. Sorry to ramble :-D
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Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 16, 2019 7:27 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:...now I keep thinking of a MP Silverbolt...that would be rad...
If only Japan actually cared about Beast Wars Metals.

If only.

we'll probably never get MPs beyond season 1, which is a shame. Though I feel that if we do get a single MP BW past season 1, it would be Silverbolt.

I wish we could get a MP Tigerhawk though
Yeah, about the only non-Season 1 BW character who has any kind of chance of getting a MP figure under normal circumstances (that is, without outside-of-TakaraTomy help from something like a fan vote) is Lio Convoy.

What about Big Convoy?
Not as popular in Japan, unfortunately.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Stargrave » Thu May 16, 2019 7:33 pm

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Hmmm, season 1 you say....boy I always lean chaotic good, but the Predacons had more style going on that season I have to give it to them. Style leveled out once everyone got chrome added but in season 1 hmmm...if they did do another MP BW I think I'd have to vote Terrorsaur. He's just so visually interesting and I bet they could do a great job with that frame and alt mode. I'd love to see Waspinator or Tarantulus of course but Terrorsaur would be pretty sweet.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Stargrave » Thu May 16, 2019 8:14 pm

Motto: "It’s all the in the reflexes"
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And weaponized Snufflufugus Prime is cool, but mighty noble majestic white lion Prime is just a smidge cooler :lol:
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