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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:18 am

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Now with those new scale photos, she definitely looks too big...

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SpikeyTigertron wrote:I never did understand the attachment to Inferno... he felt like just one more "bumbling idiot" for the Preds and they already had quite a few.... I guess he was the most dangerous idiot though.

I don't recall ever being fondly attached to Terroraur either. though I think I blame Waspinator for hamming it up. I really would have expected him after Megs tbh.


Terrorsaur had potential. Yes he ultimately amounted to little more than Starscream-lite, but there were places they could have gone with him.

Inferno was a better realised version of Scorponok IE Megatron's most loyal 'muscle'. In Season One he was a formidable threat, due to his quite extreme level of endurance. Post Season One, he was reduced to comic relief which ruined his character completely really. Then again, Megatron and Rampage were the only effective threat within Season Two.


SpikeyTigertron wrote:Did she or Tarantulus ever use their "toy" guns? I know Cheetors gutt riffle ended up being the "standard default back up gun".

I just honestly don't remember either spider blasting much.

Would be cool if they somehow keep her toy spindle effect and could hang from the stand.


BA mostly used hers in the Bad Spark episode, in some of the less nauseating moments with Silverbolt. Tarantulas used it once or twice in Season One. Although exact episodes escape me right now.

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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:36 am

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SpikeyTigertron wrote:Did she or Tarantulus ever use their "toy" guns? I know Cheetors gutt riffle ended up being the "standard default back up gun".

I just honestly don't remember either spider blasting much.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:40 am

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GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Sorry have to go here, but...

DAMN!! It must be frigid in that convention hall 'cause girl I know you had some perky cans in the cartoon, but they were never THAT perky. :oops:
Looks like the show model to me.

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Postby Nemesis Maximo » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:28 pm

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SpikeyTigertron wrote:I never did understand the attachment to Inferno... he felt like just one more "bumbling idiot" for the Preds and they already had quite a few.... I guess he was the most dangerous idiot though.

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Postby sol magnus » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:55 pm

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WEll, now I don't need to worry about getting another Blackarachnia for my Beast shelf. She will fit in nearly perfectly!! You can't really get any better than that
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Dragma Kerp » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:31 pm

I'm no masterpiece colector (mostly because not enough money T_T) but everytime they announce a Beast Wars MP my inner child screams and cries...
I NEED IT!!! :-(
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby GeekyGamer Gal » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:09 am

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GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Sorry have to go here, but...

DAMN!! It must be frigid in that convention hall 'cause girl I know you had some perky cans in the cartoon, but they were never THAT perky. :oops:
Looks like the show model to me.

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It might just be the gray prototyping that makes her "assets" appear more perky than most of the show then. Metallic colors can hide a lot of exaggeration, especially if they look like they're wearing the older bullet bras.
You know, as a kid I never made the connection between the G1 Sideswipe toy my brother passed down to me and the characters in the Beast Wars show on TV, until Michael Bay had Sideswipe as a Corvette.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Rodimus Knight » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:10 am

Dragma Kerp wrote:I'm no masterpiece colector (mostly because not enough money T_T) but everytime they announce a Beast Wars MP my inner child screams and cries...
I NEED IT!!! :-(


The beast wars one's are the one's im the most consistent on buying. The other's are all pretty random depending on how much i like the character / mold / and of course cost (mostly cost).

I'll be adding her, and look forward to see what magic they pulled off to hide the spider's abdomen.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:13 am

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GeekyGamer Gal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Sorry have to go here, but...

DAMN!! It must be frigid in that convention hall 'cause girl I know you had some perky cans in the cartoon, but they were never THAT perky. :oops:
Looks like the show model to me.

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It might just be the gray prototyping that makes her "assets" appear more perky than most of the show then. Metallic colors can hide a lot of exaggeration, especially if they look like they're wearing the older bullet bras.


regardless, it feels inaporopriate. There is show accuracy, and then there is taking it too damn far, especially in this day and age.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:21 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:
GeekyGamer Gal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Sorry have to go here, but...

DAMN!! It must be frigid in that convention hall 'cause girl I know you had some perky cans in the cartoon, but they were never THAT perky. :oops:
Looks like the show model to me.

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It might just be the gray prototyping that makes her "assets" appear more perky than most of the show then. Metallic colors can hide a lot of exaggeration, especially if they look like they're wearing the older bullet bras.


regardless, it feels inaporopriate. There is show accuracy, and then there is taking it too damn far, especially in this day and age.
Blame Mainframe for taking advantage of the more lax censorship of 90's American syndicated programming television (versus the stricter censorship of 90's American block programming television).

You can see the pointy end of her right one (the left one from our perspective) in that screencap. The MP replicating those pointy ends is just Takara continuing their regular aim of show-accuracy. If anyone's to blame for the inappropriateness of BA's design, it's Mainframe for their having designed her like that in the first place 20+ years ago.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby sol magnus » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:33 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
GeekyGamer Gal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Sorry have to go here, but...

DAMN!! It must be frigid in that convention hall 'cause girl I know you had some perky cans in the cartoon, but they were never THAT perky. :oops:
Looks like the show model to me.

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It might just be the gray prototyping that makes her "assets" appear more perky than most of the show then. Metallic colors can hide a lot of exaggeration, especially if they look like they're wearing the older bullet bras.


regardless, it feels inaporopriate. There is show accuracy, and then there is taking it too damn far, especially in this day and age.
Blame Mainframe for taking advantage of the more lax censorship of 90's American syndicated programming television (versus the stricter censorship of 90's American block programming television).

You can see the pointy end of her right one (the left one from our perspective) in that screencap. The MP replicating those pointy ends is just Takara continuing their regular aim of show-accuracy. If anyone's to blame for the inappropriateness of BA's design, it's Mainframe for their having designed her like that in the first place 20+ years ago.

Plus, the Japanese aren't nearly as prudish as we westerners are. It's likely not even a blip on their radar.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:37 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:regardless, it feels inaporopriate. There is show accuracy, and then there is taking it too damn far, especially in this day and age.

These young kids think everything is inappropriate these days, get off my lawn!
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:58 am

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Is it any different than when Felicia Hardy has the chestiest Marcel Legends figure?
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Her boobs barely fit into her suit. And this is a toy for kids.

And you just know that any figure of Emma Frost is gonna be dressed like a dominatrix.

I’m just saying, when it’s character appropriate, is it that big of a deal?
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Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:09 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:I’m just saying, when it’s character appropriate, is it that big of a deal?

Seriously, people just need to learn to let things go >:oP
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:13 am

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The oversexualised design of Blackarachnia I always found a bit gross. Catering to the same "Sex Bot" fetish IDWverse did. BA being the image I would equate with, when people spoke of the inclusion of more Fem Bots into Transformers.
As said though, the accuracy of the MP figure is undeniable. It is funny that it took this toy to bring her design into focus for some, 20+ years later.
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Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:14 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Is it any different than when Felicia Hardy has the chestiest Marcel Legends figure?
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Her boobs barely fit into her suit. And this is a toy for kids.

And you just know that any figure of Emma Frost is gonna be dressed like a dominatrix.

I’m just saying, when it’s character appropriate, is it that big of a deal?



Its plain not needed. A lack of nipples would not deter from screen accuracy in any way. Look, I get it, its something I would not have cared about a few years ago. Now though, I'm raising two young boys, and this is the **** they are surrounded by that I have to teach them is not okay.


I just don't see how during the design process somebody was like, "wait, better add the nipples!"
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:19 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:I just don't see how during the design process somebody was like, "wait, better add the nipples!"
I don't disagree with your point of view, but we're 20+ years too late on this. The horse has been dead for two decades.

And, thankfully, at least BA is remembered and revered the most for her great character more than anything.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby sol magnus » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:19 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Is it any different than when Felicia Hardy has the chestiest Marcel Legends figure?
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Her boobs barely fit into her suit. And this is a toy for kids.

And you just know that any figure of Emma Frost is gonna be dressed like a dominatrix.

I’m just saying, when it’s character appropriate, is it that big of a deal?



Its plain not needed. A lack of nipples would not deter from screen accuracy in any way. Look, I get it, its something I would not have cared about a few years ago. Now though, I'm raising two young boys, and this is the **** they are surrounded by that I have to teach them is not okay.


I just don't see how during the design process somebody was like, "wait, better add the nipples!"

Besides them no doubt using the 3D character model, which would have the nipples, anyway?
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Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:17 am

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Again, what nipples?
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Postby sol magnus » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:20 am

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william-james88 wrote:Again, what nipples?

The pointy things on the end of the "breasts".
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Postby wilcosu35 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:20 am

Well, looks like it'll be an expensive latter half of the year for me.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:21 am

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william-james88 wrote:Again, what nipples?


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Postby BluePhirePB » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:30 am

I think it's great we're seeing more Beast Wars in the MP line. I hope they do more Predacons in the future. Inferno, Rampage (though even the original toy was pretty accurate) ... and Transmetal 2 Dinobot!
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Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:31 am

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BluePhirePB wrote:I think it's great we're seeing more Beast Wars in the MP line. I hope they do more Predacons in the future. Inferno, Rampage (though even the original toy was pretty accurate) ... and Transmetal 2 Dinobot!

So far Takara have said its season 1 cast only at the moment but if sales are good...
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