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Bot Marley wrote:

Greed wrote:Besides the fact that fans are being called geeks, an insult to most.

I'm a proud Geek, Nerd, Dork, whatever you want to call it! I love everything from StarTrek to StarWars to Role Playing Games to just plain outright nerdyness! I love Nerdy Chicks too!

We were called "uber geeks". I too like Star Wars,Star Trek, and some RPGs and yes i play magic to but i think "uber geek" went to far. How about Uber Trans-Fan or something. You hear geek you think smart kid with coke bottle glasses and a pen protector who sites home and programs on his computer all day. Bill Gates in other words. I am not bill gates. Granted im a little to into Transformers but a better name is needed for people like use wether they be trekies, trans-fans, or star wars lovers. I think bay just needs to be kicked in the head a few times. Maybe then the next TF movie will have a decent Megatron and Starscream. Its not hard to change them, blow them up and have them repaired or reformatted.

So dumb if you're in canada you can't see this video. LAME

He-he, Bay said Doo-dads.

You wanna know something. I don't like Micheal Bay, but I like TF. For as long as I can remember I've wanted a live action movie. Now I'm getting one and I couldn't be more thrilled that Micheal Bay is doing it.

Why?

Because the masses won't sit and watch a 30' tall version of AI or Bladerunner. We would, the masses won't. If that ends up being the case, there will never be money for a sequal. If this rocks like the web buzz makes it out to be, maybe they would get 'Matrix' money and be able to give us a more character driven sequal.

Also, What is with all the complaints about the new look? Seriously, I don't get it. Hasbro changes the designs with every season of animation to accomadate new molds. In the show characters change mid-season to allow for repaints. Even the premise behind TF is changing shape... So whats got your panties in a bunch, really?

I, IMHO, think that it is the strange feeling you'll get being a TF fan going into a theater with a non-fan and really know just as much as they do about it. This feeling is unsettling because of all the time and energy we put into our fandom, when actually it was never ours to control in the first place.

Just let go and Enjoy it. Otherwise you'll generate unneccessary stress and grief for yourself and those that don't care.

Bluebullet wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:I don't know if anybody's mentioned this, but it is possible to "listen" & then completely disreguard everything you heard because you believe your idea would be much, much better.

.....just thought I'd throw that out there......

Where have you been?

j-man wrote:Plain and simple for anyone who doesn't like the design and stuff, just don't go watch it...if you got issues, find $.50 and call someone who cares because most of us don't care about complainers....

I'm going to ignore that stupid statement and move on.

Quit complaining, everyone has the right not to go see it or see it. If you don't like, then don't watch it, what more can you do than that when it opens in July.

j-man wrote:

Bluebullet wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:I don't know if anybody's mentioned this, but it is possible to "listen" & then completely disreguard everything you heard because you believe your idea would be much, much better.

.....just thought I'd throw that out there......

Where have you been?

j-man wrote:Plain and simple for anyone who doesn't like the design and stuff, just don't go watch it...if you got issues, find $.50 and call someone who cares because most of us don't care about complainers....

I'm going to ignore that stupid statement and move on.

Quit complaining, everyone has the right not to go see it or see it. If you don't like, then don't watch it, what more can you do than that when it opens in July.

Complaining is the right of all sentient beings. Without complaints, there is no progress. I'm complaining so that when this movie bombs, they can't say we didn't speak up.

Only problem being that it won't bomb. At least in ticket sales.

Zuko wrote:Only problem being that it won't bomb. At least in ticket sales.

Bombing doesn't always mean ticket sales. Godzilla '98 bombed because no one liked it and it ruined the careers of the creators who made it. This movie will fail in the second week, though, because 80's Transformers fans will go to see their childhood on the big screen, be disapointed, and spread a bad word of mouth about it. It can't get any more simple than that.

Bluebullet wrote:

Zuko wrote:Only problem being that it won't bomb. At least in ticket sales.

Bombing doesn't always mean ticket sales. Godzilla '98 bombed because no one liked it and it ruined the careers of the creators who made it. This movie will fail in the second week, though, because 80's Transformers fans will go to see their childhood on the big screen, be disapointed, and spread a bad word of mouth about it. It can't get any more simple than that.

Don't worry, there will be several millions of non-TFans to make up for it.

Don't worry, there will be several millions of non-TFans to make up for it.

But will these non-TFans like stupid jokes like a dog peeing on a robots leg?

Jeez, what am I saying? The cinema where I work just had it's busiest week ever thanks to the schoolkids being on holiday and 'Epic Movie', of all things, being released.

peagreenbot wrote:

Don't worry, there will be several millions of non-TFans to make up for it.

But will these non-TFans like stupid jokes like a dog peeing on a robots leg?

Jeez, what am I saying? The cinema where I work just had it's busiest week ever thanks to the schoolkids being on holiday and 'Epic Movie', of all things, being released.

No, Epic Movie is better because it was made to be stupid.

To Milanon: I think "millions" and "making up for it" is an exxageration. The Transformers fanbase is, at the most, half a million people(including people who are not on this board). The kids who dabble in Transformers(around a million) will instantly know the difference, because of the massacred looks and the PG-13 rating. Then there are the millions of adults who liked Transformers as kids, who will say "WTF" at first sight. If you think a million freaks that like this demonic "visualisation" of Transformers will make up for the millions of pissed-off Transformers fans who know their way around the grapevine, then you sure live in a wonderful world.

I could deal with flames on prime i didnt care what he looked like as long he was re semi truck i agree with his statment big blocky bots would be boring i probally do the samething if it was in the director chair except i wouldnt have made some of the other bots look bad looking megatron vehicle mode kinda reminds me of his enrgon and robots in disguise look vehical mode mybe ill have a differnt opnion about decepticons in this film when it releases in theaters pictures look crappy but they could great when there in action. more than i can say about spiderman 3 venom the director of that film destroyed the look of venom in that version completly venom looks like a black carnage.

Bluebullet wrote:

peagreenbot wrote:

Don't worry, there will be several millions of non-TFans to make up for it.

But will these non-TFans like stupid jokes like a dog peeing on a robots leg?

Jeez, what am I saying? The cinema where I work just had it's busiest week ever thanks to the schoolkids being on holiday and 'Epic Movie', of all things, being released.

No, Epic Movie is better because it was made to be stupid.

To Milanon: I think "millions" and "making up for it" is an exxageration. The Transformers fanbase is, at the most, half a million people(including people who are not on this board). The kids who dabble in Transformers(around a million) will instantly know the difference, because of the massacred looks and the PG-13 rating. Then there are the millions of adults who liked Transformers as kids, who will say "WTF" at first sight. If you think a million freaks that like this demonic "visualisation" of Transformers will make up for the millions of pissed-off Transformers fans who know their way around the grapevine, then you sure live in a wonderful world.

Sure.

Why can't anyone add on this site? If the movie were only to make $100 mil in the States (not even counting Worldwide box office) that is $12.5 million tickets at $8 each.

Half a million TF fans, as you put it, only adds up to $4 mil. So guess where the other $96 mil is going to come from?

Never mind, I'll just tell you: the 12 million non-fans.

Not to mention the fans and non/fans alike who will go see it two or three times like me.

Milanion wrote:Sure.

Why can't anyone add on this site? If the movie were only to make $100 mil in the States (not even counting Worldwide box office) that is $12.5 million tickets at $8 each.

Half a million TF fans, as you put it, only adds up to $4 mil. So guess where the other $96 mil is going to come from?

Never mind, I'll just tell you: the 12 million non-fans.

Milanion, please, use some common sense here. Clearly the Transformers fanbase, about half of which likes what they've seen of the movie, is enough to derail millions of dollars of marketting in less than a week.

Clearly this is only logical.

I also agree with Bay. The G1 robots don't look realistic, and couldn't even pass of as modern normal Transformers.

I can't wait to see this movie. Not only is it an action movie with giant robots, but the Transformers also have their own personalities which will be interesting to see on the big screen and in live action.

Archibald Witwicky wrote:

Milanion wrote:Sure.

Why can't anyone add on this site? If the movie were only to make $100 mil in the States (not even counting Worldwide box office) that is $12.5 million tickets at $8 each.

Half a million TF fans, as you put it, only adds up to $4 mil. So guess where the other $96 mil is going to come from?

Never mind, I'll just tell you: the 12 million non-fans.

Milanion, please, use some common sense here. Clearly the Transformers fanbase, about half of which likes what they've seen of the movie, is enough to derail millions of dollars of marketting in less than a week.

Clearly this is only logical.

You're right. I was clearly blinded by facts again. I shall avoid them in the future!

This has just made me physically sick, like the guy in Clerks 2 when he's arguing with Randall about LOTR.

Gobots are like the K-Mart Transformers!

I for one am happy that I don't know what to expect. The problem with the recent comic movies is if you read the comic you know what's gonna happen. All bets are off on Transformers. They're starting fresh ad i couldn't be happier.

I feel sorry for the Seibs members who only fight the good fight. I thank you from the bottom of my brandy.

We all know the fanbase is pretty sizable, but dont start kidding yourself into thinking that you alone will be able to cause the movie to bomb, there are many more casual fans that there are hardcore fans and we should all just let the box office numbers speak for themselves come july 9th, because they have a nice long weekend to work with. Most people are complaining because the designs arent what they are used to, or that starscream looks like a monkey without even giving anyone a chance to prove that the movie could be remotely good. If someone likes the movie then obviously they have been paid off, or if you like the designs then you arent a true fan because "micheal bay" had something to do with them. Theres a reason that fans get made fun of so much in popular culture(like in Clerks 2) No matter what you are spoonfed you always want to find something to complain about.

Megatron_Wolf wrote:"People hate primes paint job" no prime is kick ass we all hate starscream and megatron you jackass.If he can get the G1 voice cast that would make this movie site better with fans. And bad boys 3 would be cool.

speak for your self i love em.

Zuko wrote:Not to mention the fans and non/fans alike who will go see it two or three times like me.

LOL ill probably live in the theater.

just wanted to mention, i'm in canada and was able to view the video fine....normally it does say that "cant be viewed outside US" stuff ...not sure if this made the difference but i clicked on the written version link instead and it brough me to the video page and played it.

You people still don't understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that the fanbase AND everyone else who has been out of the loop for a while will bomb the movie. I, for one, am discouraging people I meet here and there from going to the movie, as some people here should be. If this act of boycott continues, THEN it will most likely bomb. This movie threatens to change Transformers into a TV show about demonic monsters that like to kill army men. As some people have put it, it's a civil war. You're either with Bay, or you're with the purists. *holds out red and blue pills* Take your side.