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Mr.Bay wrote:First and for most for anyone who thinks this movie is going to be crap... OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!

Does anyone think that Steven will let anyone make this crap...

Does anyone remember Back To The Future?

Transformers will be Great, with or with out Bay.

Oh and if anyone thinks the movie should be G1, well the mythology is. I prey no REAL fan would want the movie to look like the 80's. Get with the times.....Jees....

Amen brotha!

how bout Guillermo Del Toro, Peter J. or James Cameron - or spielberg himself. Not Michael "scream & yell" Bay.

Bay has wasted alot of them before. So I know the same is being done with Transformers.

Mr.Bay wrote:

Optimus Pepsi wrote:if there is another transformers movie and bay does direct it he should let fans help decide what should be in the movie like how snakes on a plane was basically a fan made movie

And you want transformers to be like snakes on a plane....?
come on give Bay more credit then that.

Snakes On A Plane became unsalvagable when New Line pulled Ronny Yu, watered the script down, replaced Yu with David Ellis, and then tried to 'fix' the script by tampering with it all to hell once they realized people were looking forward to what it was originally meant to be. If they'd left Ronny onboard and hadn't dicked it all to hell it probably would have been a big hit.

michala3 wrote:how bout Guillermo Del Toro, Peter J. or James Cameron - or spielberg himself. Not Michael "scream & yell" Bay.

Or Alphonso Cuarón. His installment in the Harry Potter franchise is arguably the best so far and regardless of what people thought of the plot and acting his long, sweeping, single-cut action scenes in Children of Men are the antithesis of Michael Bay's annoying quick-cuts.

i was just watching the matrix a while ago and i think the wachowski (cant spell their last name) could be a great thing for TF2.

If the first movie does well enough (and it's entertaining enough), I think it would be a shame to change directors.

Bay is by no means going to direct the next "Citizen Kane" anytime soon, but he's a competent action film maker, and that's exactly what TFTM is, pure action...of robots smashing each other for our giddiness.

Bruce Willis Actively participated in a aicn.com Talkback and these are his statement regarding Micheal Bay.

"Bay Would have ruined DH4. Few people will work with him now, and I know I will never work with him again. "

And on working with bay and Armageddon

"I loved working with all the guys, the actor I mean. It was a great crew, but a screaming Director does not make for a pleasant set experience. But look, we were all big boys, and we got thru it. A little to MTV-camera cutty for my taste, but the shots of meteors crashing into the WTC was pretty prescient. Billy Bob was under-used for my taste. the spacesuits continually malfunctioned, and one nite, Ben Affleck was seen bashing the front glass on his helmet with a rock because he couldn't breathe. I am a fan and a friend of Liv Tyler, and thought she brought some fun to the movie. And it made a shitload of money for Disney. Jerry Bruckheimer is a great producer, and I would work with him again anytime. thanks bw"

and Bays Response on his Blogsite

"Hard to believe it really is Bruce saying that stuff on AICN. I loved working with Bruce. He gave me a big hug one month ago at the GM party and we talked for 20 minutes. We even talked about working together again! I mean it would be sad if he felt this way - he's never one to hide his feelings - I say sad, in that he wouldn't be man enough to say it to my face. But truly sad that such a big time actor would have to hide on a little talk back section. So I really don't believe this story. I find it also totally odd that my agents at William Morris got the call from Bruce's people to inquire if I would like to helm Die Hard 4, but I was already on Transformers. Michael"

NOTE The comments by Bruce Wills have been confirmed as his and His own personal opinions.

Gee, comments like that from an actor starring in a movie that's going to be directly competing against Transformers.

He may have said it, but i'll just write it off as simple "slandering the opposition".

Oh and has anyone seen Mace13 lately? I'm still waiting on an answer to my question ...

Phategod1 wrote:Bruce Willis Actively participated in a aicn.com Talkback and these are his statement regarding Micheal Bay.

"Bay Would have ruined DH4. Few people will work with him now, and I know I will never work with him again. "

And on working with bay and Armageddon

"I loved working with all the guys, the actor I mean. It was a great crew, but a screaming Director does not make for a pleasant set experience. But look, we were all big boys, and we got thru it. A little to MTV-camera cutty for my taste, but the shots of meteors crashing into the WTC was pretty prescient. Billy Bob was under-used for my taste. the spacesuits continually malfunctioned, and one nite, Ben Affleck was seen bashing the front glass on his helmet with a rock because he couldn't breathe. I am a fan and a friend of Liv Tyler, and thought she brought some fun to the movie. And it made a shitload of money for Disney. Jerry Bruckheimer is a great producer, and I would work with him again anytime. thanks bw"

and Bays Response on his Blogsite

"Hard to believe it really is Bruce saying that stuff on AICN. I loved working with Bruce. He gave me a big hug one month ago at the GM party and we talked for 20 minutes. We even talked about working together again! I mean it would be sad if he felt this way - he's never one to hide his feelings - I say sad, in that he wouldn't be man enough to say it to my face. But truly sad that such a big time actor would have to hide on a little talk back section. So I really don't believe this story. I find it also totally odd that my agents at William Morris got the call from Bruce's people to inquire if I would like to helm Die Hard 4, but I was already on Transformers. Michael"

NOTE The comments by Bruce Wills have been confirmed as his and His own personal opinions.

Not doubting you, but where was it confirmed??

Cuaron's work on the 3rd Harry Potter was awesome. Wouldn't mind him doing TFII either. Children of Men was awesome -great cinematography. Just saw 28 Weeks Later tonight - better than the first or at least as good. Pretty solid all the way through. This will be the sleeper movie of the summer I predict.

michala3 wrote:Cuaron's work on the 3rd Harry Potter was awesome. Wouldn't mind him doing TFII either. Children of Men was awesome -great cinematography. Just saw 28 Weeks Later tonight - better than the first or at least as good. Pretty solid all the way through. This will be the sleeper movie of the summer I predict.

.....did we see the same 28 Weeks later? Is there some version out there that you saw that wasn't filmed with a Handycam?

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Cameron is too big of a name to ever direct something like Transformers. Not to mention he hasnt made a full motion picture since Titanic, 10 years ago!

He is already too busy with his next film anyway.

I cant see those as Bruce Willis's words, mainly because of all the typos. I think that is made up.

Del Toro wouldnt be suited to directing a movie with big giant robots and car chases in it, he did a great job with Blade 2 but Hellboy was really boring. Transformers wouldnt be dark or adult enough for him.

The Wachowski Brothers would be perfect for Transformers, but they are such elitists i doubt it would ever happen. Besides they are already working on their own project, a movie based on the anime Speed Racer i beleive...

I would love to see the brothers make a TF movie, as The Matrix is my all tiem fave movie, and i love their anime-inspired style of directing which would be perfect for a TF movie, but it wont ever happen im afraid so forget about it.

After giving it some thought, and looking through my collection of over 300 DVD's, i really cant think of any director better suited to making a TF movie other than Bay.

Everything just fits together with him, the material, the action involved, the simple script, the copious amounts of CGI and the fun factor involved with a TF movie all just seem perfect for Bay.

http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_disp ... nt_1494384
heres the Laundry list of Talkbacks where Bruce 1st par took in The Stuff written In Blackblocks and white text with e author "Walter B" is bruce as you can see they doubted him at about 3:15 May 9th but 12 hours later the owner of the site confirmed his Identity as the actual Bruce Willis as for typos earlier in that TalkBack Bruce "Proof Reading is for Pussies" It might have been a joke but Since Bruce said it it my new Motto.

After this Bruce was given his own personal TalkBack there were no more references to Micheal Bay but there where some good stuff. Ill post the link just to further prove that this was indeed Bruce Willis. http://www.aintitcool.com/?q=node/32598

Sonray wrote:The Wachowski Brothers would be perfect for Transformers, but they are such elitists i doubt it would ever happen. Besides they are already working on their own project, a movie based on the anime Speed Racer i beleive...

I would love to see the brothers make a TF movie, as The Matrix is my all tiem fave movie, and i love their anime-inspired style of directing which would be perfect for a TF movie, but it wont ever happen im afraid so forget about it.

Damn skippy. Andy and Larry are about as good with action flicks as one can get. They can even add a lot of philosophy to what would otherwise be a brainless action flick.

I may get shot for this, but why not team up Spielberg and *Deep breath* George Lucas?

I'm looking forward to the game more...
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll take my Welker
and move along.

Shadowman wrote:

Sonray wrote:The Wachowski Brothers would be perfect for Transformers, but they are such elitists i doubt it would ever happen. Besides they are already working on their own project, a movie based on the anime Speed Racer i beleive...

I would love to see the brothers make a TF movie, as The Matrix is my all tiem fave movie, and i love their anime-inspired style of directing which would be perfect for a TF movie, but it wont ever happen im afraid so forget about it.

Damn skippy. Andy and Larry are about as good with action flicks as one can get. They can even add a lot of philosophy to what would otherwise be a brainless action flick.

I may get shot for this, but why not team up Spielberg and *Deep breath* George Lucas?

I would have to kill the next person who suggests toy boy lucas does anything TF related! I freaking HATE that guy with a burning passion!

Lucas i mean, not Spielberg, he is a genius.



Anyway I still find it hard to beleive Bruce said that, since it is so easy to make up a story on the internet in this day and age. Id have to see bruce willis himself say that sorta stuff in person on tv to beleive it.

I also like how people always complain and whine about Bay shouting alot too, heres a little piece of news to those people: THATS WHAT DIRECTORS DO!!! Thats why they are directors, they need to tell people what to do, especially on large scale pictures otherwise how are all the different units supposed to know what to do on time? Shouting is part of directing, and when you are being paid millions of bucks i think a little thing like listening and tolerating a megaphone is an easy enough thing to do Mr Willis or whoever claims to be Bruce Willis who wrote those comments.

Sonray wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sonray wrote:The Wachowski Brothers would be perfect for Transformers, but they are such elitists i doubt it would ever happen. Besides they are already working on their own project, a movie based on the anime Speed Racer i beleive...

I would love to see the brothers make a TF movie, as The Matrix is my all tiem fave movie, and i love their anime-inspired style of directing which would be perfect for a TF movie, but it wont ever happen im afraid so forget about it.

Damn skippy. Andy and Larry are about as good with action flicks as one can get. They can even add a lot of philosophy to what would otherwise be a brainless action flick.

I may get shot for this, but why not team up Spielberg and *Deep breath* George Lucas?

I would have to kill the next person who suggests toy boy lucas does anything TF related! I freaking HATE that guy with a burning passion!

Lucas i mean, not Spielberg, he is a genius.



Anyway I still find it hard to beleive Bruce said that, since it is so easy to make up a story on the internet in this day and age. Id have to see bruce willis himself say that sorta stuff in person on tv to beleive it.

I also like how people always complain and whine about Bay shouting alot too, heres a little piece of news to those people: THATS WHAT DIRECTORS DO!!! Thats why they are directors, they need to tell people what to do, especially on large scale pictures otherwise how are all the different units supposed to know what to do on time? Shouting is part of directing, and when you are being paid millions of bucks i think a little thing like listening and tolerating a megaphone is an easy enough thing to do Mr Willis or whoever claims to be Bruce Willis who wrote those comments.

It was Bruce Willis. He called the site owner to confirm and then briefly opened up a videoconference line. If it wasn't him then it was someone who looked exactly like him and had stolen his phone number. Not only that, but if it were a fake the real Bruce Willis or his reps would have said so by now, considering the fuss his statements have made.

And yes, directors shout all the time, but not profanity-laced diatribes every time they get frustrated and have a hissy-fit (which reportedly in his case is often). I take it you haven't watched the behind-the-scenes features on the Pearl Harbor dvd? Not that many people would want to, especially after sitting through the actual movie.

michala3 wrote:Cuaron's work on the 3rd Harry Potter was awesome. Wouldn't mind him doing TFII either. Children of Men was awesome -great cinematography. Just saw 28 Weeks Later tonight - better than the first or at least as good. Pretty solid all the way through. This will be the sleeper movie of the summer I predict.

You're not meaning to imply that Alfonso Cuarón had anything to do with 28 Weeks Later, are you?

Actually i have seen Bay in action, as i own all of his movies on dvd, i see nothing wrong with what he does. As i said all directors shout, get frustrated and many of them swear as well. As i said when you are an actor being paid millions of bucks just to say a few lines and look pretty, a shouting director isnt really too much to expect someone to endure.

Looks to me theres alot of biased against Bay because some TF fans are pee'ed off because Prime doesnt always have a friggin face plate! Boo Hoo! The whole TF universe has been ruined because of PRIMES FREAKIN FACE PLATE!!!



There are worse directors than Bay, waaaay worse. Just be thankful that its being directed by someone who actually knows how to make an action film full of action, unlike many so called modern day "action" films where you get 10 minutes of action, and an hour of boring soap opera.

At least Uwe Boll isnt directing.

Sonray wrote:At least Uwe Boll isnt directing.

And there we have it. Proof that it could be worse.

Actually, would a Uwe Boll Transformers flick be more like Animorphs? That seriously seems like his style.

AbsumZer0 wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sonray wrote:The Wachowski Brothers would be perfect for Transformers, but they are such elitists i doubt it would ever happen. Besides they are already working on their own project, a movie based on the anime Speed Racer i beleive...

I would love to see the brothers make a TF movie, as The Matrix is my all tiem fave movie, and i love their anime-inspired style of directing which would be perfect for a TF movie, but it wont ever happen im afraid so forget about it.

Damn skippy. Andy and Larry are about as good with action flicks as one can get. They can even add a lot of philosophy to what would otherwise be a brainless action flick.

I may get shot for this, but why not team up Spielberg and *Deep breath* George Lucas?

I would have to kill the next person who suggests toy boy lucas does anything TF related! I freaking HATE that guy with a burning passion!

Lucas i mean, not Spielberg, he is a genius.



Anyway I still find it hard to beleive Bruce said that, since it is so easy to make up a story on the internet in this day and age. Id have to see bruce willis himself say that sorta stuff in person on tv to beleive it.

I also like how people always complain and whine about Bay shouting alot too, heres a little piece of news to those people: THATS WHAT DIRECTORS DO!!! Thats why they are directors, they need to tell people what to do, especially on large scale pictures otherwise how are all the different units supposed to know what to do on time? Shouting is part of directing, and when you are being paid millions of bucks i think a little thing like listening and tolerating a megaphone is an easy enough thing to do Mr Willis or whoever claims to be Bruce Willis who wrote those comments.

It was Bruce Willis. He called the site owner to confirm and then briefly opened up a videoconference line. If it wasn't him then it was someone who looked exactly like him and had stolen his phone number. Not only that, but if it were a fake the real Bruce Willis or his reps would have said so by now, considering the fuss his statements have made.

And yes, directors shout all the time, but not profanity-laced diatribes every time they get frustrated and have a hissy-fit (which reportedly in his case is often). I take it you haven't watched the behind-the-scenes features on the Pearl Harbor dvd? Not that many people would want to, especially after sitting through the actual movie.

michala3 wrote:Cuaron's work on the 3rd Harry Potter was awesome. Wouldn't mind him doing TFII either. Children of Men was awesome -great cinematography. Just saw 28 Weeks Later tonight - better than the first or at least as good. Pretty solid all the way through. This will be the sleeper movie of the summer I predict.

You're not meaning to imply that Alfonso Cuarón had anything to do with 28 Weeks Later, are you?

I have to agree with Zero I dont care how much money you make if your Director is a Ass, and most his movies are panned whats the point of working with a complete tool.

Phategod1 wrote:I have to agree with Zero I dont care how much money you make if your Director is a Ass, and most his movies are panned whats the point of working with a complete tool.

Pearl Harbor won an Academy Award. Bad Boys 1 and 2 were hugely successful. A lot of people like The Rock. Even Armageddon was commercially successful.

The Island was really the only one that failed.

The director is an ass? How about the thousands of people making him suffer from hyperbole? The same thing Paul WS Anderson has. They make one bad movie, and suddenly their the worst ever.

Crybaby fanboys who can't get used to change, they're the asses.

Shadowman wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:I have to agree with Zero I dont care how much money you make if your Director is a Ass, and most his movies are panned whats the point of working with a complete tool.

Pearl Harbor won an Academy Award. Bad Boys 1 and 2 were hugely successful. A lot of people like The Rock. Even Armageddon was commercially successful.

The Island was really the only one that failed.

The director is an ass? How about the thousands of people making him suffer from hyperbole? The same thing Paul WS Anderson has. They make one bad movie, and suddenly their the worst ever.

Crybaby fanboys who can't get used to change, they're the asses.

Pearl Harbor won an Academy Award for SOUND EFFECTS EDITING. It was torn apart by critics. Bay was so obsessed with making sure the bombs fell right that he missed 50+ glaring historical inaccuracies and angered the people who were there that day by either stealing the good deeds of honorable veterans while replacing their characters or tarnishing their good names by presenting fictional versions of them as arrogant hardheads.

And Paul WS Anderson? The guy who hasn't made a halfway decent movie since Event Horizon? The guy who took the Resident Evil franchise and turned it into a superhero movie starring his wife? The guy who singlehandedly smashed the hopes of Alien and Predator fans everywhere by taking the reins on the long-anticipated Aliens vs. Predator project and turning it into complete ****? What? If Anderson could stop making every movie worse than his last maybe people wouldn't call his latest movies "his worst ever".

Shadowman wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:I have to agree with Zero I dont care how much money you make if your Director is a Ass, and most his movies are panned whats the point of working with a complete tool.

Pearl Harbor won an Academy Award. Bad Boys 1 and 2 were hugely successful. A lot of people like The Rock. Even Armageddon was commercially successful.

The Island was really the only one that failed.

The director is an ass? How about the thousands of people making him suffer from hyperbole? The same thing Paul WS Anderson has. They make one bad movie, and suddenly their the worst ever.

Crybaby fanboys who can't get used to change, they're the asses.

I have mixed feelings about WS anderson lots of people will disagree with both of us about "One bad Movie". I believe his only real problem is he doesn't demand enough from studios as far as MPAA issues and movie finanacing. and Best Sound editing is not really anything to brag about.

AbsumZer0 wrote:And Paul WS Anderson? The guy who hasn't made a halfway decent movie since Event Horizon? The guy who took the Resident Evil franchise and turned it into a superhero movie starring his wife? The guy who singlehandedly smashed the hopes of Alien and Predator fans everywhere by taking the reins on the long-anticipated Aliens vs. Predator project and turning it into complete ****? What? If Anderson could stop making every movie worse than his last maybe people wouldn't call his latest movies "his worst ever".

See? That's what I'm talking about. Not everyone agrees with you on Resident Evil (Where Paul only did the first one) or Alien vs. Predator (Which rocked, not as any sort of adaptation, but as a good crossover movie).

And what about Mortal Kombat? THE best video game adaptaion ever. And guess what? Even though MK2 is attached to his name as a bad movie, he wasn't invovled with it.

You're opinion doesn't make the world go 'round. People disagree. Get used to it.

Shadowman wrote:

AbsumZer0 wrote:And Paul WS Anderson? The guy who hasn't made a halfway decent movie since Event Horizon? The guy who took the Resident Evil franchise and turned it into a superhero movie starring his wife? The guy who singlehandedly smashed the hopes of Alien and Predator fans everywhere by taking the reins on the long-anticipated Aliens vs. Predator project and turning it into complete ****? What? If Anderson could stop making every movie worse than his last maybe people wouldn't call his latest movies "his worst ever".

See? That's what I'm talking about. Not everyone agrees with you on Resident Evil (Where Paul only did the first one) or Alien vs. Predator (Which rocked, not as any sort of adaptation, but as a good crossover movie).

And what about Mortal Kombat? THE best video game adaptaion ever. And guess what? Even though MK2 is attached to his name as a bad movie, he wasn't invovled with it.

You're opinion doesn't make the world go 'round. People disagree. Get used to it.

I'd Have to Disagree about AvP it was very disappointing in any aspect. I still ask how do you take two of the goriest franchises and turn them into a PG-13 Snorefest. But I dont Blame Anderson I blame Fox for wanting to sell more toys and pack more tweens in the theatre.