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Ultra Markus wrote:why not do a comparision with the G1 toy vs the real one also

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.

Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

FracturedKoi wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:why not do a comparision with the G1 toy vs the real one also

Excellent idea and I've beat you to it

comparing-g1-megatron-to-his-real-life-counterpart-now-with-100-more-pictures--t95097.php

Ultra Markus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.

Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

Megatron never shot real bullets and never had real shell casings eject out of his gun mode you could say his resemblance to a real gun is just a disguise
to hide the fact hes a cybertronian weapon
FYI the scope mounted on the gun is on the part that slides back and fourth when fireing as the shells exit so trying to look though it while it fires would knock you out

fenrir72 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.

Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

Megatron never shot real bullets and never had real shell casings eject out of his gun mode you could say his resemblance to a real gun is just a disguise
to hide the fact hes a cybertronian weapon
FYI the scope mounted on the gun is on the part that slides back and fourth when fireing as the shells exit so trying to look though it while it fires would knock you out

U.N.C.L.E. supergun > Micro Change > Transformers Amazin'! I wonder why the owners of U.N.C.L.E. never raised a howl like Harmony Gold does on Jetfire?

Ultra Markus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.

Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

Megatron never shot real bullets and never had real shell casings eject out of his gun mode you could say his resemblance to a real gun is just a disguise
to hide the fact hes a cybertronian weapon
FYI the scope mounted on the gun is on the part that slides back and fourth when fireing as the shells exit so trying to look though it while it fires would knock you out

U.N.C.L.E. supergun > Micro Change > Transformers Amazin'! I wonder why the owners of U.N.C.L.E. never raised a howl like Harmony Gold does on Jetfire?

maybe they never saw the show, how ever i did find this, its a dead ringer for megatron:

Airsoft U.N.C.L.E. guns.JPG

http://www.tvacres.com/weapons_uncle.htm

Ultra Markus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.

Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

Megatron never shot real bullets and never had real shell casings eject out of his gun mode you could say his resemblance to a real gun is just a disguise
to hide the fact hes a cybertronian weapon
FYI the scope mounted on the gun is on the part that slides back and fourth when fireing as the shells exit so trying to look though it while it fires would knock you out

U.N.C.L.E. supergun > Micro Change > Transformers Amazin'! I wonder why the owners of U.N.C.L.E. never raised a howl like Harmony Gold does on Jetfire?

maybe they never saw the show, how ever i did find this, its a dead ringer for megatron:

Airsoft U.N.C.L.E. guns.JPG

http://www.tvacres.com/weapons_uncle.htm

Wolfman Jake wrote:FracturedKoi, how well does the silver paint job on MP-36 compare to real gun metal on your Walther P38 or other similar firearms? I know a lot of people are miffed that this new Masterpiece Megatron doesn't have chrome accents like the G1 toy, and are attributing the lack of such to a design choice of cartoon accuracy, but could it be that the shiny silver paint better emulates a real gun's metal color and texture as well, making MP-36 a little more "real world" accurate, despite its odd proportions and missing details compared to the G1 toy and the actual gun it's based upon?

FracturedKoi wrote:You'll never find any firearm that's nickel plated or any such chromed appearance like that from the factory. Nickel plated p38's do exist, but the nickel plating was added after the war by the people who brought them back at trophies.

Megatron's paint scheme is purely animation accurate. If the color scheme of this toy could even possibly be compared to anything, it's closest to a stainless steel finish and there are no p38's or p1's that were ever made out of stainless steel; they're all parkerized steel.

When I get back from vacation, I'll take a picture of my PPK, it's stainless steel.

FracturedKoi wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:FracturedKoi, how well does the silver paint job on MP-36 compare to real gun metal on your Walther P38 or other similar firearms? I know a lot of people are miffed that this new Masterpiece Megatron doesn't have chrome accents like the G1 toy, and are attributing the lack of such to a design choice of cartoon accuracy, but could it be that the shiny silver paint better emulates a real gun's metal color and texture as well, making MP-36 a little more "real world" accurate, despite its odd proportions and missing details compared to the G1 toy and the actual gun it's based upon?

You'll never find any firearm that's nickel plated or any such chromed appearance like that from the factory. Nickel plated p38's do exist, but the nickel plating was added after the war by the people who brought them back at trophies.

Megatron's paint scheme is purely animation accurate. If the color scheme of this toy could even possibly be compared to anything, it's closest to a stainless steel finish and there are no p38's or p1's that were ever made out of stainless steel; they're all parkerized steel.

When I get back from vacation, I'll take a picture of my PPK, it's stainless steel.

RAR wrote:I was going to mention that The Man from U.N.C.L.E. gun has the same silencer and scope and a similar stock and that the sight is mounted lower on the body not on the slide - but I think that has been pretty much covered now.

A fun comparison to see would be with a 1960's U.N.C.L.E. toy gun.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

FracturedKoi wrote:You'll never find any firearm that's nickel plated or any such chromed appearance like that from the factory. Nickel plated p38's do exist, but the nickel plating was added after the war by the people who brought them back at trophies.

Megatron's paint scheme is purely animation accurate. If the color scheme of this toy could even possibly be compared to anything, it's closest to a stainless steel finish and there are no p38's or p1's that were ever made out of stainless steel; they're all parkerized steel.

When I get back from vacation, I'll take a picture of my PPK, it's stainless steel.

Interesting stuff. So, the G1 Megatron toy is actually more of a vanity trophy than a serious weapon. LOL! No wonder he resents his alt mode so much!

ciano wrote:Awesome photos! I've always wanted to see how the Megatrons size up against a real P38. Does anyone happen to know if there's ever been a 3rd party megs that's actually 1:1 scale with the real gun? Honestly, I'd buy a Megatron at 1:1 scale if they made one.