MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby FracturedKoi » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:21 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:why not do a comparision with the G1 toy vs the real one also :-?


Excellent idea and I've beat you to it :D

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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby Ultra Markus » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:22 pm

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Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.


Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

Megatron never shot real bullets and never had real shell casings eject out of his gun mode you could say his resemblance to a real gun is just a disguise
to hide the fact hes a cybertronian weapon
FYI the scope mounted on the gun is on the part that slides back and fourth when fireing as the shells exit so trying to look though it while it fires would knock you out
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby Ultra Markus » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:23 pm

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FracturedKoi wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:why not do a comparision with the G1 toy vs the real one also :-?


Excellent idea and I've beat you to it :D

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a lot closer than the MP thats for sure ;)^
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:45 pm

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Wow, that was a really awesome read! as someone who appreciates real life handguns that was a pretty fun comparison. Not entirely accurate, but still quite cool with the details they were able to work in
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:58 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.


Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

Megatron never shot real bullets and never had real shell casings eject out of his gun mode you could say his resemblance to a real gun is just a disguise
to hide the fact hes a cybertronian weapon
FYI the scope mounted on the gun is on the part that slides back and fourth when fireing as the shells exit so trying to look though it while it fires would knock you out



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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby Ultra Markus » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:41 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.


Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

Megatron never shot real bullets and never had real shell casings eject out of his gun mode you could say his resemblance to a real gun is just a disguise
to hide the fact hes a cybertronian weapon
FYI the scope mounted on the gun is on the part that slides back and fourth when fireing as the shells exit so trying to look though it while it fires would knock you out



U.N.C.L.E. supergun > Micro Change > Transformers Amazin'! I wonder why the owners of U.N.C.L.E. never raised a howl like Harmony Gold does on Jetfire?
maybe they never saw the show, how ever i did find this, its a dead ringer for megatron:
Airsoft U.N.C.L.E. guns.JPG

http://www.tvacres.com/weapons_uncle.htm
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:08 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.


Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

Megatron never shot real bullets and never had real shell casings eject out of his gun mode you could say his resemblance to a real gun is just a disguise
to hide the fact hes a cybertronian weapon
FYI the scope mounted on the gun is on the part that slides back and fourth when fireing as the shells exit so trying to look though it while it fires would knock you out



U.N.C.L.E. supergun > Micro Change > Transformers Amazin'! I wonder why the owners of U.N.C.L.E. never raised a howl like Harmony Gold does on Jetfire?
maybe they never saw the show, how ever i did find this, its a dead ringer for megatron:
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http://www.tvacres.com/weapons_uncle.htm


Its a double dead ringer alright! Especially the "quantum surge" G1 version of him :x
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby FracturedKoi » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Well of course its gonna be bigger to scale properly with other MP figures in robot mode. It would have been nice if it was licensed and resembled the actual firearm instead of a "not" P-38 similar to how hasbro often does their CHUG alt modes. But I can see why they would go with cartoon accuracy to save money. Once you add some chrome not to mention the fictional silencer, scope, and stock, you pretty much throw firearm accuracy out the window anyway. I would love to see a gun collecter customize the actual firearm to look like megatrons G1 toy. The chrome deco is entirely possible for a price. Bonus points if a shop can create functioning add on parts that mount on to the gun and really work. Although one thing I never understood about the fictional alt mode is why a gun with strong enough kickback to require a stock would have a scope/viewfinder? Obviously you couldn't look through it to aim at a target while the stock is properly placed against your shoulder to to absorb the recoil.


Fictional toy based on a fictional show the irony yes?

Megatron never shot real bullets and never had real shell casings eject out of his gun mode you could say his resemblance to a real gun is just a disguise
to hide the fact hes a cybertronian weapon
FYI the scope mounted on the gun is on the part that slides back and fourth when fireing as the shells exit so trying to look though it while it fires would knock you out




U.N.C.L.E. supergun > Micro Change > Transformers Amazin'! I wonder why the owners of U.N.C.L.E. never raised a howl like Harmony Gold does on Jetfire?
maybe they never saw the show, how ever i did find this, its a dead ringer for megatron:
Airsoft U.N.C.L.E. guns.JPG

http://www.tvacres.com/weapons_uncle.htm




Oh now that is interesting. The way the scope is mounted here would work as it's mounted on the frame and not on the slide!

The magazine, on the other hand, is impossible without heavily modifying how the mag release works.
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:54 pm

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FracturedKoi, how well does the silver paint job on MP-36 compare to real gun metal on your Walther P38 or other similar firearms? I know a lot of people are miffed that this new Masterpiece Megatron doesn't have chrome accents like the G1 toy, and are attributing the lack of such to a design choice of cartoon accuracy, but could it be that the shiny silver paint better emulates a real gun's metal color and texture as well, making MP-36 a little more "real world" accurate, despite its odd proportions and missing details compared to the G1 toy and the actual gun it's based upon?
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby FracturedKoi » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:03 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:FracturedKoi, how well does the silver paint job on MP-36 compare to real gun metal on your Walther P38 or other similar firearms? I know a lot of people are miffed that this new Masterpiece Megatron doesn't have chrome accents like the G1 toy, and are attributing the lack of such to a design choice of cartoon accuracy, but could it be that the shiny silver paint better emulates a real gun's metal color and texture as well, making MP-36 a little more "real world" accurate, despite its odd proportions and missing details compared to the G1 toy and the actual gun it's based upon?


You'll never find any firearm that's nickel plated or any such chromed appearance like that from the factory. Nickel plated p38's do exist, but the nickel plating was added after the war by the people who brought them back at trophies.

Megatron's paint scheme is purely animation accurate. If the color scheme of this toy could even possibly be compared to anything, it's closest to a stainless steel finish and there are no p38's or p1's that were ever made out of stainless steel; they're all parkerized steel.

When I get back from vacation, I'll take a picture of my PPK, it's stainless steel.
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:37 am

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FracturedKoi wrote:You'll never find any firearm that's nickel plated or any such chromed appearance like that from the factory. Nickel plated p38's do exist, but the nickel plating was added after the war by the people who brought them back at trophies.

Megatron's paint scheme is purely animation accurate. If the color scheme of this toy could even possibly be compared to anything, it's closest to a stainless steel finish and there are no p38's or p1's that were ever made out of stainless steel; they're all parkerized steel.

When I get back from vacation, I'll take a picture of my PPK, it's stainless steel.


Interesting stuff. So, the G1 Megatron toy is actually more of a vanity trophy than a serious weapon. LOL! No wonder he resents his alt mode so much!
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby padfoo » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:55 pm

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That was an awesome comparison. Thanks for taking the time to write it up!
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:12 pm

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FracturedKoi wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:FracturedKoi, how well does the silver paint job on MP-36 compare to real gun metal on your Walther P38 or other similar firearms? I know a lot of people are miffed that this new Masterpiece Megatron doesn't have chrome accents like the G1 toy, and are attributing the lack of such to a design choice of cartoon accuracy, but could it be that the shiny silver paint better emulates a real gun's metal color and texture as well, making MP-36 a little more "real world" accurate, despite its odd proportions and missing details compared to the G1 toy and the actual gun it's based upon?


You'll never find any firearm that's nickel plated or any such chromed appearance like that from the factory. Nickel plated p38's do exist, but the nickel plating was added after the war by the people who brought them back at trophies.

Megatron's paint scheme is purely animation accurate. If the color scheme of this toy could even possibly be compared to anything, it's closest to a stainless steel finish and there are no p38's or p1's that were ever made out of stainless steel; they're all parkerized steel.

When I get back from vacation, I'll take a picture of my PPK, it's stainless steel.


Your inputs should be in tfwiki dude! :x
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby TFDEM27 » Wed May 03, 2017 9:47 pm

WOW, that is so awesome!
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby RAR » Thu May 04, 2017 3:28 am

I was going to mention that The Man from U.N.C.L.E. gun has the same silencer and scope and a similar stock and that the sight is mounted lower on the body not on the slide - but I think that has been pretty much covered now.

A fun comparison to see would be with a 1960's U.N.C.L.E. toy gun.
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Mon May 08, 2017 1:35 pm

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RAR wrote:I was going to mention that The Man from U.N.C.L.E. gun has the same silencer and scope and a similar stock and that the sight is mounted lower on the body not on the slide - but I think that has been pretty much covered now.

A fun comparison to see would be with a 1960's U.N.C.L.E. toy gun.


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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby leakin' lubricant » Tue May 09, 2017 7:27 pm

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Nice article!

Do you also have Apollyon? As I feel that figure replicates the original Walther rather well, aprt from it being too wide.
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Re: MP-36 Megatron vs. a real Walther P1: comparison part two

Postby FracturedKoi » Tue May 09, 2017 9:06 pm

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I do not have Apollyon. I was waiting on Takara to finally come out with an official one! I'm not disappointed at all by its robot mode, but yeah, his gun mode is not to my liking. But it's not like I'll have him in that form often anyhow.

I haven't forgotten about taking pics of "Browning" (my KO) and my PPK/S or other firearms. I've been really tied up with this whole wedding planning thing. On a somewhat related note, I'll be selling off chunks of my collection. It'll take me time to hunt through boxes and boxes to compile a list...but that'll be done in due time. I'll try to get those pictures taken and uploaded here Saturday or Sunday. Thanks for all the great feedback and discussion, guys :D
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