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MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

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New Pictures of MP 48 Lio Convoy Alongside Takara Encore Anime Big Convoy

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:59 pm

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Greetings Seibertronians! Now that MP-47 is on its way to proud owners, let's check in with next MP to be released, MP-48 Lio Convoy!

Takara Tomy were showing off a new picture on their twitter feed, one of which was posed with a previous Takara Encore release, Anime Big Convoy! It also featured a ghostly Optimus Primal looking on. Check out the pictures below!

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Accompanying the picture was this tweet, which we have run through a machine translation.

Nearly the final sample of the MP Rio Convoy has arrived from the developer (()

So I arranged it with the big convoy of the reprint anime color. Japanese beast commander combination.

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Anime Big Convoy is a redeco of Big Convoy that aims to be as close to the Beast Wars Neo look of the character.

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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:22 pm

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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby bvzxa » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:29 pm

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I might have to get him. I have the Anime Big Convoy and I love it. Wow!!!
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:55 pm

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It's pretty cool that both MPs of Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy were scaled to size up with the original Big Convoy mold, along with how the show-accurate Encore of Big Convoy was made to go with the two aforementioned MPs.
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby STngAR » Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:26 pm

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Damn, did not realize encore Big Convoy was anime color. Quick search on EBay and.......add to cart. :lol:

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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

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STngAR wrote:Damn, did not realize encore Big Convoy was anime color. Quick search on EBay and.......add to cart. :lol:

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Oh yeah, that Big Convoy is fantastic!

He will look great with Lio Convoy. We need a 3-shot with those 2 and MP-38
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

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Japanese Video Review for Transformers Masterpiece MP 48 Lio Convoy

Postby william-james88 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:22 pm

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Fellow Seibertronian Cobotron has informed us that there is a video review of Takara's Transformers Masterpiece MP 48 Lio Convoy. While it is in Japanese, you can see the Transformation and just how exactly the cartoon lion head becomes a robotic lion head on his shoulder in robot mode.

Hey all. Just stumbled across this on youtube. Just uploaded today.




This toy is still available at Amazon Japan.

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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:01 am

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You don't really need to understand Japanese with this reviewer. He's thorough with showing off details and the transformation (not mention careful with fragile looking areas), not cutting off parts that are the exact same but mirrored (think of it as "in case you missed it")...

...and holy cow is the cradle for the lion head scary :shock:
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More In-Hand Images of MP 48 Lio Convoy

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Thanks to a multitude of Twitter users (who will be listed below), we have a slew of new images for you of the just released MP-48 Lio Convoy. MP-48 Lio Convoy is the latest in the Transformers Masterpiece line, and the newest addition to the Beast Wars section of that line. He is technically the 2nd Masterpiece figure from Beast Wars II following MP-38 Optimus Primal, done up in his Beast Wars II deco from his appearance in the Beast Wars II Movie.

Lio Convoy transforms from a white lion into a robot with a giant lion head on his right shoulder and a lion tail on his left, with a very nice Prime-esque face and wonderfully detailed chest.

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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:50 am

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Oh, good. I couldn't remember if it had been shown that he comes with a Cybertron Buster.

Did you guys know they made a role play toy of that gun back in the day?
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

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Sabrblade wrote:Oh, good. I couldn't remember if it had been shown that he comes with a Cybertron Buster.

Did you guys know they made a role play toy of that gun back in the day?

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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:09 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, good. I couldn't remember if it had been shown that he comes with a Cybertron Buster.

Did you guys know they made a role play toy of that gun back in the day?

Did not know that no. got any pics?
Right here.
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:11 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, good. I couldn't remember if it had been shown that he comes with a Cybertron Buster.

Did you guys know they made a role play toy of that gun back in the day?

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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:26 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, good. I couldn't remember if it had been shown that he comes with a Cybertron Buster.

Did you guys know they made a role play toy of that gun back in the day?

Did not know that no. got any pics?
Right here.

That's really cool!
Beast Wars Neo had one too for its standard issue Maximal sidearm, the Matrix Cannon (most often seen being used by Stampy).
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:59 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, good. I couldn't remember if it had been shown that he comes with a Cybertron Buster.

Did you guys know they made a role play toy of that gun back in the day?

Did not know that no. got any pics?
Right here.

That's really cool!
Beast Wars Neo had one too for its standard issue Maximal sidearm, the Matrix Cannon (most often seen being used by Stampy).

Now I kinda want one
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:51 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, good. I couldn't remember if it had been shown that he comes with a Cybertron Buster.

Did you guys know they made a role play toy of that gun back in the day?[/
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Right here.

That's really cool!
Beast Wars Neo had one too for its standard issue Maximal sidearm, the Matrix Cannon (most often seen being used by Stampy).

Now I kinda want one


Takara did a lot of role play items back in the day. Imagine if Hasbro made stuff like this using the nerf brand.
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby ZarenPRIME » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:31 pm

I'm BUMMED Artimus was omitted. I was really looking forward to her being included. :-( :-(


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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:14 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Takara did a lot of role play items back in the day. Imagine if Hasbro made stuff like this using the nerf brand.
They did.
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby Bucky » Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:36 pm

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So I just spent the last hour transforming him into bot mode. Definitely gonna recommend kid gloves on the transformation. There’s a whoooole lot going on with this toy. Good, and bad.

The engineering on him is pretty top notch, and he’s definitely interesting. Lot of twisting and turning. Lot of hinges and cradle-like structures. But with so much intricate engineering, and with such a thoroughly complicated transformation there’s a lot of areas that could end in breakage. Doesn’t help that there’s some parts of the instructions where it’s intensely difficult to tell what’s going on, but I don’t think that’s anything new. This is especially true with the abdominal section. It’s hard to tell how to move the side panels. The video posted above is recommended.

Just about everything on this toy is tight. Everything slides in and out of slots and cavities very smoothly, and everything tucks away neatly. All of which is cool. But there are some clearance issues. Mostly in regards to his lion claws. The slide right into the legs perfectly, but if you don’t have the leg bend, and instead have it straight like I did, when you go to twist the leg, you can easily snap the tips of the claws off. So be super careful. Luckily I only slightly bent mine on one leg, but I’m the only one who is ever going to notice the slightly imperfection,

I’d also be careful when it comes to transforming the legs. You might not think it at first, but there’s a lot of hinges down there, and a lot of twisting requires to transform them. My thigh swivels are insanely tight, so I had to use a bit more force than I was comfortable with, given the complex knee area.

Some of the cooler parts are that Lio Convoy is fully loaded in terms of weapons, and they all fold away and conceal nicely. His ratchets are good and tight, and have an oddly satisfying little click to them. Although the right elbow on mine appears to somewhat stuck. His colors are bold and beautiful. He doesn’t have ankle tilts, but he does have toe tilts. :lol:
Oh, and the ab crunch is great, and was unexpected.


All in all, Lio Convoy is a gorgeous looking toy, and he’s very cool. Personally I don’t know that I’ll be transforming him into lion mode again, but that’s okay. He looks amazing in bot mode anyway. ;)^
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:07 pm

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I've seen 2 breakage reports on Twitter already with the chest plate, did you have any particular issues there?
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby Bucky » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:28 am

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No. No breakage for me. I can see how too much force could potentially result in breakage though, but mine is just fine. The way the chest compresses, and folds away is pretty amazing.

I thought it might be prudent to also provide some images to better clarify the potential problem areas that I encountered.

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Part of the final steps calls for you to twist the lion arm on its swivel. This is fine provided that you have the elbow bent, to allow the claws to clear the cavity that they fold into.

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However, as you can see, if it is not bent, and is straight, the claws no longer have the clearance necessary for the twist. I had Lio’s right lion arm straight when I got to this step, and had I not been paying such close attention, I would have snapped the tips of the claws off, instead of just slightly bending them.

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I also wanted to point out how if you Lio Convoy has insanely tight thigh swivels, as mine does, this complicated area of the leg can seem fragile. There’s a lot of hinges there, so it doesn’t feel particularly robust. Lio actually has two swivels. One at the hip, and one at his lower thigh. The lower thigh is what’s tight on mine,

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There is also a twist on the cradle of the lion head that had me sweating bullets, but after watching the video to confirm that I was doing what I was supposed to be doing, I got past it. There is clearance for the twist, but not much. If I were to transform this figure multiple times down the road, I’d be pretty concerned about that mushroom peg.


I do just want to reiterate that I experience NO breakage with mine. All you have to do is take it slow, and use caution for some areas. I do realize that that’s not ideal, but Lio Convoy has some crazy cool engineering, and he looks amazing.
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Re: MP 48 Lio Convoy Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:14 pm

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Takara Tomy's official transformation video is highly recommended. Helps show some of the nuance that the instructions don't - or that they might describe, but I can't read Japanese. There was only one spot where I had a clearance issue on the first go through with the lion head rotation but I think angling the lower mane part sideways on subsequent attempts will help.

Like all recent MPs, do not transform stuff on this without having a grip near the pieces that are moving. They don't engineer these to work well using leverage anymore, so I'd agree with Bucky's comments on the legs. Rotating the thigh? Do it by gripping and turning near the rotation point and not way down around the ankles. There are physics reasons this is required when you have a high number of parts.

MP-48 is an outstanding toy as long as you don't harambe the thing to death by attempting to figure it on your own the first time through.
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Written Review and Tips for Handling Transformers MP 48 Lio Convoy

Postby william-james88 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:23 pm

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Fellow Seibertronian Bucky got Masterpiece Lio Convoy and due to a few early breakage reports (as is always the case with MPs the first week of release), he wanted to share his thoughts on the Transformation as well as some tips on how best to handle him. He also added some images to show those areas. This written review goes well with the recent Japanese video review, as an english language companion, which we also posted below.

"So I just spent the last hour transforming him into bot mode. Definitely gonna recommend kid gloves on the transformation. There’s a whoooole lot going on with this toy. Good, and bad.

The engineering on him is pretty top notch, and he’s definitely interesting. Lot of twisting and turning. Lot of hinges and cradle-like structures. But with so much intricate engineering, and with such a thoroughly complicated transformation there’s a lot of areas that could end in breakage. Doesn’t help that there’s some parts of the instructions where it’s intensely difficult to tell what’s going on, but I don’t think that’s anything new. This is especially true with the abdominal section. It’s hard to tell how to move the side panels. The video posted below is recommended.

Just about everything on this toy is tight. Everything slides in and out of slots and cavities very smoothly, and everything tucks away neatly. All of which is cool. But there are some clearance issues. Mostly in regards to his lion claws. The slide right into the legs perfectly, but if you don’t have the leg bend, and instead have it straight like I did, when you go to twist the leg, you can easily snap the tips of the claws off. So be super careful. Luckily I only slightly bent mine on one leg, but I’m the only one who is ever going to notice the slightly imperfection,

I’d also be careful when it comes to transforming the legs. You might not think it at first, but there’s a lot of hinges down there, and a lot of twisting requires to transform them. My thigh swivels are insanely tight, so I had to use a bit more force than I was comfortable with, given the complex knee area.

Some of the cooler parts are that Lio Convoy is fully loaded in terms of weapons, and they all fold away and conceal nicely. His ratchets are good and tight, and have an oddly satisfying little click to them. Although the right elbow on mine appears to somewhat stuck. His colors are bold and beautiful. He doesn’t have ankle tilts, but he does have toe tilts.
Oh, and the ab crunch is great, and was unexpected.

Regarding possible breakage:

I can see how too much forcing could potentially result in breakage at the chest plate area, but mine is just fine. The way the chest compresses, and folds away is pretty amazing.

I thought it might be prudent to also provide some images to better clarify the potential problem areas that I encountered.

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Part of the final steps calls for you to twist the lion arm on its swivel. This is fine provided that you have the elbow bent, to allow the claws to clear the cavity that they fold into.

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However, as you can see, if it is not bent, and is straight, the claws no longer have the clearance necessary for the twist. I had Lio’s right lion arm straight when I got to this step, and had I not been paying such close attention, I would have snapped the tips of the claws off, instead of just slightly bending them.

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I also wanted to point out how if you Lio Convoy has insanely tight thigh swivels, as mine does, this complicated area of the leg can seem fragile. There’s a lot of hinges there, so it doesn’t feel particularly robust. Lio actually has two swivels. One at the hip, and one at his lower thigh. The lower thigh is what’s tight on mine,

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There is also a twist on the cradle of the lion head that had me sweating bullets, but after watching the video to confirm that I was doing what I was supposed to be doing, I got past it. There is clearance for the twist, but not much. If I were to transform this figure multiple times down the road, I’d be pretty concerned about that mushroom peg.


I do just want to reiterate that I experience NO breakage with mine. All you have to do is take it slow, and use caution for some areas. I do realize that that’s not ideal, but Lio Convoy has some crazy cool engineering, and he looks amazing.

All in all, Lio Convoy is a gorgeous looking toy, and he’s very cool. Personally I don’t know that I’ll be transforming him into lion mode again, but that’s okay. He looks amazing in bot mode anyway. "

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