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[Emerje]

I can't be the only one that's very concerned about how Lio's beast mode looks from the side. They seem to have chosen to start with the most flattering view of the figure to get us excited while leaving the beast mode out of the display. I really hope it looks good, but I'm not entirely convinced now that the excitement is wearing off.

Emerje

[AllNewSuperRobot]

If licensing is an issue for Masterpiece G1 figures, I don't understand why after 15 years we haven't gotten a Masterpiece Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge, Arcee, Kup, Blurr, Insecticons, Perceptor, Blaster or any of the other non-licensed alt mode Transformers characters that are popular. Lots of amazing figures to choose from that don't need a licensing agreement. Happy to get Beast Wars Masterpiece figures, but not in lieu of G1 Masterpiece figures that need to get finished up at this point before we get a Masterpiece Bumblebee Version 3.

I've expressed these thoughts so many times myself it's not even funny. Takara stated they wanted to complete each season in the MP collection. They then dismissed the Gestalts, so that is most of the season one and two Decepticons written off. They later keep fobbing fans off with the excuse of "licensing". Meanwhile there are a considerable number of Season One/Two/Movie/Three & Four designs that require no license at all. The answer to that? Release another Optimus Prime, another Bumblebee

Meanwhile, they have released 5/14 Beast Wars season one cast into the MP line within three years. To me that indicates a preference. Especially since G1 MP has been reset twice now with anime+. That it is something the designers aren't all that invested in anymore. That they want to move on to something new ala Beast Wars etc
So if their heart isn't in it and the corporate suits are the only ones telling them to go on with G1, better for them to put it on hiatus and move on. Until such a time when they care enough again creatively, to push the G1 line beyond a handful of regular characters and redecos.

[o.supreme]

A bit late here but...I've never been a Masterpiece collector simply because they are too expensive, but they do look fantastic. I don't quite get how the Lio Convoy reveal came with not as much buzz or spectacle as Optimal Optimus or BW Megatron? Sure maybe form the average western fans perspective but what about Japanese fans?

Personally I think Lio Convoy looks great, and truth be told, I've always like the original toy better than any incarnation of Primal. If I were to own any MP figures, It would probably be some version of the original Optimus, Star Saber, and Lio Convoy. It looks absolutely amazing. I'm very pleasantly surprised they even decided to make it at all.

[ZeroWolf]

If licensing is an issue for Masterpiece G1 figures, I don't understand why after 15 years we haven't gotten a Masterpiece Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge, Arcee, Kup, Blurr, Insecticons, Perceptor, Blaster or any of the other non-licensed alt mode Transformers characters that are popular. Lots of amazing figures to choose from that don't need a licensing agreement. Happy to get Beast Wars Masterpiece figures, but not in lieu of G1 Masterpiece figures that need to get finished up at this point before we get a Masterpiece Bumblebee Version 3.

I've expressed these thoughts so many times myself it's not even funny. Takara stated they wanted to complete each season in the MP collection. They then dismissed the Gestalts, so that is most of the season one and two Decepticons written off. They later keep fobbing fans off with the excuse of "licensing". Meanwhile there are a considerable number of Season One/Two/Movie/Three & Four designs that require no license at all. The answer to that? Release another Optimus Prime, another Bumblebee

Meanwhile, they have released 5/14 Beast Wars season one cast into the MP line within three years. To me that indicates a preference. Especially since G1 MP has been reset twice now with anime+. That it is something the designers aren't all that invested in anymore. That they want to move on to something new ala Beast Wars etc
So if their heart isn't in it and the corporate suits are the only ones telling them to go on with G1, better for them to put it on hiatus and move on. Until such a time when they care enough again creatively, to push the G1 line beyond a handful of regular characters and redecos.

Agreed, maybe let the designers have a bit more creative free reign for a while, working on what figures they want.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Agreed, maybe let the designers have a bit more creative free reign for a while, working on what figures they want.

I think this is the whole issue. There isn't really any creative freedom with G1, especially with anime+. They have to look exactly like this. There is no room for interpretation, or improvisation. Every other line has only had their base figures, with a vast chasm between what they looked like in their respective shows vs. their toys aka wiggle room for creative license. Anime+ takes all of that away from G1. They become an engineering exercise, not an artistic or creative one.

An example being MP Dinobot in contrast to MP-44 Prime.

[Rodimus Knight]

Ok so candidate for the top five most complicated shoulders in TF history list you were working on?

Not complicated at all: it just turns inside out.

See, you make it sound so easy

But it’ll probably take the bulk of the instructions it looks nearly im-paws-able.

I just want to say, cat puns are for winners.

Cat puns are purr-fect (I love cats)

About the shoulder, I pretty much called it on this figure, considering I saw the organic lion head on the inside of the shoulder. I like this MP, and I think the lion mode is pretty good (better than the previous versions at least) and that robot mode looks spectacular. I have no connection with this character, nor do I know who he really is, I would gladly buy this figure just for his design.

Also, do I spot a hinge on his chest plate? One that may allow for this?

LioConvoyMatrix1.jpg

If you want to make Cat Puns might I suggest going to a Miraculous forum and look for a Cat Noir Thread.

[TulioDude]

Looks really cool,but not feeling the lion mode yet.The others toys can still hold up:

[D-Maximal_Primal]

This is a ridiculously awesome and out of left field reveal, and I am stoked! I'm interested to see his accessories and his price, and if he works out, I may have to start hunting an MP-38

[Sabrblade]

Jesse Wittenrich of the former TCC discovered something interesting:

Comparing the sizes of Optimus Primal, Lioconvoy and Big Convoy... the original Big Convoy Toy is in scale with both MP Optimus Primal and MP Lioconvoy (whereas the original Primal and Lioconvoy are a head too tall).

So that means that fans who bought the anime colors Encore Big Convoy can now have pretty much the perfect trio of BW leaders!

[o.supreme]

That is cool and all...but I'm willing to bet, in the not too distant future, there will be a MP Big Convoy. THAT is a trio I'd love to see tons of pics of, considering I'll never be purchasing them.

[Sabrblade]

That is cool and all...but I'm willing to bet, in the not too distant future, there will be a MP Big Convoy. THAT is a trio I'd love to see tons of pics of, considering I'll never be purchasing them.

I'm not holding out any hope.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

That info is really cool. At least if we never get an MP Big Convoy (Though i still wish we would) his new release can scale with the MPs

[Sabrblade]

That info is really cool. At least if we never get an MP Big Convoy (Though i still wish we would) his new release can scale with the MPs

Heh, after all these years of Big Convoy's original Ultra toy being the smallest of the three, his turns out to be the most in scale with the MPs.

Eat it, original Convoy and Lio Convoy!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

That info is really cool. At least if we never get an MP Big Convoy (Though i still wish we would) his new release can scale with the MPs

Heh, after all these years of Big Convoy's original Ultra toy being the smallest of the three, his turns out to be the most in scale with the MPs.

Eat it, original Convoy and Lio Convoy!

That original Leo toy is still pretty darn fun though, and it's kinda weird to imagine the MP being smaller than him.

But still yay for Big Convoy! My favorite!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Thanks to an image posted by Darkstone on the TFW2005 boards, we have word that the upcoming MP-48 Lio Convoy is going to be coming with an extra figure much like a lot of the recent Masterpiece figures, but in this case we are getting a truly unique one in the form of Beast Wars II Artemis!

For those who might not know, Artemis and her partner Moon were stationed on the Moon of Gaia, where they observed the events of Beast Wars II and reported in on it, and even starred in a send-off segment at the end of each episode. Moon received a figure back during that Beast Wars II time, but Artemis never got that pleasure. So this means that this will be the first figure ever for her, and she even includes her hammer that she hits Moon with!

This image comes to us from a Figure King magazine tease, so we should know more very shortly on what type and number of accessories Lio Convoy will come with. Could a little Moon figure also be in the works to come with Lio as well?

Let us know you thoughts in the comments section below!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package

[Sabrblade]

For those wondering what exactly Artemis and Moon are, they are androids.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package

We may not need to, depending on her size. Moon already got a toy, transforming too:


Transformers Beast Wars II Moon Gallery

Around the size of a Basic, so if Artemis is tall enough, they're in scale

Just keep her away from Starscream and Scuba.

[Sabrblade]

Just keep her away from Starscream and Scuba.

Eh, not like she ever got to meet either in person, though. Just admired them both from afar.

[-Kanrabat-]

Okay. That little Artemis figure is striking my inner week in the best way possible.
If there is effectively a little Moon figure too, that may just seal the deal for me to finally get a Beast Wars MP figure. Even if I never watched the original show.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.

[-Kanrabat-]

I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.

Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.

Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.

Initially, when the word 'android' was thrown in as a descriptive, I assumed she wasn't. Then when you mentioned her "companion" Moon did transform, I had to check.

[Sabrblade]

I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.

Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.

Initially, when the word 'android' was thrown in as a descriptive, I assumed she wasn't. Then when you mentioned her "companion" Moon did transform, I had to check.

Moon is also an android. It was just never explained how/why he was able to transform like a Transformer.

Also, Moon is tiny compared to the Maximals, so Artemis would need to be as well (NOTE: Not my pics).

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Artemis is the same scale to Lio Convoy as Blackarachnia to Megatron... Something about that amuses me.