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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby Agent 53 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:06 pm

I wrote it on TFW2005, but they got the wrong truck again, in the film, if we assume that the truck on the Golden Gate bridge with Bumblebee really was Optimus, then the truck is a freightliner like G1 Optimus, whereas this figure is based more on a Mamon COE, like the Studio Series figure.

Ironically, in Age of Extinction Optimus did use a Mamon COE before switching the the Western Star alt mode he used for the rest of the Film and in Last Knight, while the Evasion Mode figure based on that design used a Frieghtliner, to draw it closer to G1 Optimus.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:21 pm

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Agent 53 wrote:I wrote it on TFW2005, but they got the wrong truck again, in the film, if we assume that the truck on the Golden Gate bridge with Bumblebee really was Optimus, then the truck is a freightliner like G1 Optimus, whereas this figure is based more on a Mamon COE, like the Studio Series figure.

Ironically, in Age of Extinction Optimus did use a Mamon COE before switching the the Western Star alt mode he used for the rest of the Film and in Last Knight, while the Evasion Mode figure based on that design used a Frieghtliner, to draw it closer to G1 Optimus.


It's possible that they had to use an early design concept that used this truck design. That happens a lot with movie toys in general, not just Transformers movie toys.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby Rtron » Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:17 pm

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We'll see when more images come out, but I feel like the truck mode is a serious step down from the Studio Series one, without really improving on the robot mode beyond the extra size and paint that come with a higher price point. I mean, the Studio Series one is practically perfect in truck mode. I understood it with Starscream, because his MPM robot mode is waaaaaaaaaaaay better than the Studio Series one. But the alt mode downgrade here just seems pointless.

Maybe I'm just not a big enough fan of this design to notice the robot mode improvements?

A bit bummed this isn't a duo release like the previous four MPMs, it means the Decepticons will fall behind again. I was sure Bumblebee Optimus Prime was going to be the next Autobot release, but I expected him to come out paired with Bonecrusher or Brawl. Like what they did with Jazz / Megatron and Ratchet / Starscream.

Oh well, as long as the next guy is a Movie 1 Decepticon... Although it'll probably be Bumblebee's old Camaro body from the first movie.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby ScottyP » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:00 pm

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Rtron wrote:We'll see when more images come out, but I feel like the truck mode is a serious step down from the Studio Series one, without really improving on the robot mode beyond the extra size and paint that come with a higher price point. I mean, the Studio Series one is practically perfect in truck mode. I understood it with Starscream, because his MPM robot mode is waaaaaaaaaaaay better than the Studio Series one. But the alt mode downgrade here just seems pointless.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:30 pm

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Hmmmm, interesting, the robot mode is pretty good, though the head sculpt seems off, but that truck mode is pretty lame compared to other movie primes and even to the SS figure. Not sure what to think about it yet
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:06 am

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The bot mode look impressive, but that truck is a real mess. It's serious garbage. Especially with the silly cat ears.



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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby ScottyP » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:34 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Hmmmm, interesting, the robot mode is pretty good, though the head sculpt seems off, but that truck mode is pretty lame compared to other movie primes and even to the SS figure. Not sure what to think about it yet
For this toy, they really embellished the subtle details on his face plate from the movie. I would argue that should have been done via tampo/etc rather than sculpted detail.

Someone mentioned earlier that MPM figures feel rushed and I think I agree. Megatron and Starscream felt like they were breaking that trend. This doesn't.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby Tuned Agent » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:08 pm

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The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1. >:oP

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby Rtron » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:16 pm

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Tuned Agent wrote:The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1. >:oP

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.


The studio series truck mode is seriously insane, literally its only fault is the proportions of the back of the truck cab, it even reproduces the weird gappy aspect that truck beds always have.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:39 pm

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Tuned Agent wrote:The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1. >:oP

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.


What are you seeing in the back that I'm not. Most of the vehicle mode is blocked off by weapon storage.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:24 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1. >:oP

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.


What are you seeing in the back that I'm not. Most of the vehicle mode is blocked off by weapon storage.


He obviously meant the "legs" part of the truck.
That's a big OOFF, but the cat ears is one hell of a raised middle finger.

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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby Tuned Agent » Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:53 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1. >:oP

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.


What are you seeing in the back that I'm not. Most of the vehicle mode is blocked off by weapon storage.


He obviously meant the "legs" part of the truck.
That's a big OOFF, but the cat ears is one hell of a raised middle finger.

If I want a "MP Bee Optimus", I'll go 3P or 3-Zero.

Yeah, I meant the "legs" part. I know it's not uncommon for that part to be a bit of an afterthought, but the downgrade from the SS figure make it really stand out.

Rtron wrote:The studio series truck mode is seriously insane, literally its only fault is the proportions of the back of the truck cab, it even reproduces the weird gappy aspect that truck beds always have.

It's definitely insane. I'm pretty sure the panels on the back of the truck cab (unless you're talking about something else) are supposed to be a "headache rack", which are often put on trucks that tow flatbed trailers to protect the truck from cargo that breaks loose. Prime's original movie design had something similar even though he never tows a flatbed.

I've seriously thought about getting the figure just for the truck mode. :lol:
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby Rtron » Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:06 pm

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Yes, the headeache rack, that was it! That's the only part of the truck mode that isn't perfect, it's a bit small and too thick. Sorry about the inaccurate terminology.

As for why it's there, I suspect they put it there despite Prime never towing "loose" cargo (I mean, seriously, I think the only Optimus Prime that ever towed cargo that way in the whole history of Transformers was Pepsi Convoy) because it looks better on film and it's easier to mold in a toy than the wiry, tuby mess that the back of truck cabs usually is.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:32 pm

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And complaining about the headache rack being there because of Optimus himself never towing a flatbed is kinda dumb when you consider that has no bearing on what the driver of the real truck he scanned did or didn't haul.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby Rtron » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:38 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And complaining about the headache rack being there because of Optimus himself never towing a flatbed is kinda dumb when you consider that has no bearing on what the driver of the real truck he scanned did or didn't haul.


Come on, nobody was complaining, it's just fun to think about, man. Of course the alien robot has no idea what that crude metal sheet the squishies put there is for, but we're thinking about why the people who made the movie might have put that there.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby noctorro » Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:45 am

Sorry guys, I really don't like this one. Looks like a third party attempt.
His face is horrible, the mouthplate, the tiny eyes. I'm happy with my Studio Series tough I wish his lower legs would stay together a bit better.

But this is not for me anyway, I sold my last Masterpieces months ago.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby I_AM... MEGATRON! » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:33 pm

Man I really hope we're gonna get the rest of the 07 movie Decepticons in MPM-form and not more Bumblebee figures after this...
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby I_AM... MEGATRON! » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:46 pm

hausjam wrote:Hasbro and Takara just don't care about alt modes anymore.

They should just start making non-transforming figures. (Oh that's right. They screwed those up too.)



The problem is that Has/Tak know that the vast VAST majority of collectors are only going to transformer their figures once or twice (especially because of how complex some MP figures are) and then just display them in robot mode forever. So why put effort into something most customers won't care much about?
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:17 am

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New Stock Images of MPM-12 Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat May 15, 2021 3:34 pm

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Greetings Seibertronians! Thanks to the Takaratomy Mall website, we have some new in stock images to share from the forthcoming Movie Masterpiece 12 Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime!

This toy is based on the how Optimus Prime looks during the much loved Cybertron sequence at the beginning of the Bumblebee movie, while the alt mode is the same as seen in the movies final moments.

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As you can see from these images, not only does he come with his trusty ion cannon, but Prime comes with the Matrix of Leadership, rendered in the same style. The Matrix did not appear in the movie.

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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat May 15, 2021 3:42 pm

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The bot mode is fantastic. But these CAT EARS on the truck? Come on.... #-o
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby butcher31 » Sat May 15, 2021 5:21 pm

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It just looks like such an easy fix to get rid of those pointy bits in truck mode. Just one more hinge on each side. Or just remove them completely from the bot mode. Does it matter if the sides of his shoulders aren't angled?

Honestly, I'm still going to buy it...but I just don't get it.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby jtanimator » Sat May 15, 2021 6:43 pm

Okay, here's my mixed thoughts on this:

originally I thought he looked great in bot mode, and while his truck mode cat ears suck pretty hard, I'm one of those "well I'm not displaying it in truck mode anyways" people, so its mostly fine.

However admittedly I recently purchased and received Toyworld's Freedom Leader representation of this guy, and after having that fantastic looking toy in hand for a few days, I can't help but notice how inaccurate and less cool this official guy looks in comparison.

Like most others here, I'll certainly still be getting this, but my remaining reasons are because He'll be the only Masterpiece scaled BB Optimus Prime on the market, and also because I have no doubt his transformation will be much more enjoyable than any third party (especially ToyWorld) to date.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat May 15, 2021 7:19 pm

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Call me blasphemous, but I've been burned by overpaying for MPM Starscream. Then the more reasonably priced KO come out with a better paint job and it's butt-flap fixed.

So THIS time, I'll definitely wait for the improved KO of that Optimus. [-(
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Possible Coming

Postby Emerje » Sun May 16, 2021 12:13 am

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No discount on Amazon Japan. :( ¥21,100 + ¥2,127 shipping with the tax removed. Meanwhile AmiAmi is asking ¥15,400, but the shipping will certainly be higher, but I doubt it'll be more than ¥7,827. Going to wait a few days and see what the prices do.

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #346 - Gas Station Jamboree
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