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MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby transformers_va » Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:21 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Will it stay at full normal price for a reasonable time, or will Target pull a MPM Starscream and throw it on clearance for 20$ 3 weeks after it's found on the shelves? :-?
Would be nice! IMO, $125.99 seems a bit too expensive for this figure
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:22 pm

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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:43 pm

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transformers_va wrote:MPM-12 was found at Target in Warrington, Pennsylvania for $125.99

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Sighting and Pictorial Review of MPM

Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:46 pm

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Fellow Seibertronian D-Maximal_Primal found Transformers Masterpiece MPM 12 Optimus Prime at his local Target. This toy should have reached most areas of the US by now. The toy was $125.99 USD. He wrote a pictorial review for us, which you can read below:

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First off, let's start with the strongest part of the figure, and the part that really got me excited right out of the box: the robot mode. The robot mode on this figure is stunning. The detail is incredible on the mold. The wash effect across portions of this figure contribute to the detailing and molded in greeble, and produced a pretty spectacular effect the whole way around. It is a gorgeous looking robot mode, with a ton to look at.

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The articulation department is frustratingly close to being spot on. The main issue is the head: it can basically only swivel, there isn't a lot of up and down motion to be had, and coupled with the darker eyes means it's hard to get him really looking at something above his chest level. He also really needed a knuckle joint on his pointing finger, but that's a more minor complaint in the grand scheme. Outside of that, the articulation is solid and he can pose it up pretty good.

The gun is pretty big and pretty neat, but it does have an issue where it can only be held in the normal hand to forearm position, otherwise it is not tall enough to clear the forearm for poses like the 2-handed gun pose, but you can still make do with the way the hands function to loosely hold the gun.

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The matrix included is a nice touch, if a bit out of place considering Prime wasn't shown to have something like this. But it is neat and a nice touch to the overall package.

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Transformation isn't too bad on this, it is mostly straight forward, and things are mostly going where you expect them to. The grill becoming the movie accurate back was neat.

But you can definitely tell this figure really focused in on that robot mode and not the alt mode. The alt mode is definitely the weakest point on this figure. The back seems too long, the wheel base feels too long from front to back wheels, and the area from the smokestacks on back just isn't that good. The alt mode definitely feels like a victim of budget cuts or trying to avoid over-complicating things. The gun storage is also pretty weak, but it is what it is.

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So overall, this figure ain't bad. The robot mode is a rockstar that I would say is pretty near perfect, a 9 out of 10 at least. He just needed a little more in the head and hand position. Transformation is pretty involved but not stupid complicated. But the alt mode lets it down.

Overall, I'd say this is maybe a 7 out of 10? I don't want to be too harsh, but the alt mode is pretty disappointing in the back despite the badass robot mode.

I would recommend him though. The design is pretty good, and the robot mode has some mass to it and really plays the part.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby transformers_va » Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:54 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Next time you post something like this, please give the source. Or else it seems like you are passing someone else's content off as yours (even if that isn't your intention).
I was just posting it as an FYI, for those members who were/are interested. It's not about taking credit...

Btw, too many times in past, submitting news (with sources) has been ignored by the site staff... perhaps it would be nice if staff changed their behaviour >:oP
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:44 pm

This whole toy is weak sauce. Whenever I see the alt-mode, I think of this song:

- https://youtu.be/LiaYDPRedWQ

The 3P or OSKO versions are not only better to look at, IMO, they're cheaper too:

- https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Transform ... 51KRNVMT3Z

(Btw, the link description (above) is wrong; it's not "Kingdom", but an OSKO, remolded version of BB Prime).
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:55 pm

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Sold. Don't care as much as others about the vehicle, but I will say that anytime I see an extended cab semi the back end always seems longer than it should be, but that's just my warped brain. That bot mode, though, is just magnificent.
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby jtanimator » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:16 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Next time you post something like this, please give the source. Or else it seems like you are passing someone else's content off as yours (even if that isn't your intention).
I was just posting it as an FYI, for those members who were/are interested. It's not about taking credit...

Btw, too many times in past, submitting news (with sources) has been ignored by the site staff... perhaps it would be nice if staff changed their behaviour >:oP


Agreed. Its been a pretty common thing I've noticed and experienced.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:45 pm

I think it would be nice if news that's featured at other sites is posted at Seibertron too, regardless of whether the other side was "first". I would prefer to go mainly to Seibertron, rather than other sites.

Also, I've found it a bit baffling how this site posts "fluff" articles ("The Top (INSERT NUMBER HERE) Best (INSERT ADJECTIVE HERE) Transformers' (INSERT NOUN HERE)."), but ignores when I have submitted perfectly good, recently added YouTube video links to them (and not amateur ones by channels with hardly any subscribers, either).
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:56 pm

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jtanimator wrote:
transformers_va wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Next time you post something like this, please give the source. Or else it seems like you are passing someone else's content off as yours (even if that isn't your intention).
I was just posting it as an FYI, for those members who were/are interested. It's not about taking credit...

Btw, too many times in past, submitting news (with sources) has been ignored by the site staff... perhaps it would be nice if staff changed their behaviour >:oP


Agreed. Its been a pretty common thing I've noticed and experienced.


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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby transformers_va » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:30 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:I would prefer to go mainly to Seibertron, rather than other sites.
Me too, I used to enjoy this site immensely, but sadly it's changed

william-james88 wrote:If anyone wants to help out and volunteer as news staff, please contact zero wolf or me.
If the existing staff were actually friendly, and didn't insist they are always right, and anyone who disagrees, is wrong... makes for crappy discussions >:oP Your staff is ACTIVELY telling people, if they don't like a particular toy/movie line, then don't join that thread... WTF is that?

That being said, MPM-12 is looking fantastic in robot mode! Whilst his altmode isn't quite as nice, it's still an improvement over the long nosed OP with that stupid flame paint job :SICK: Definitely looking forward to adding him to my collection! (hopefully on sale, because $125.99 seems too high)
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:50 pm

transformers_va wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I would prefer to go mainly to Seibertron, rather than other sites.
Me too, I used to enjoy this site immensely, but sadly it's changed

william-james88 wrote:If anyone wants to help out and volunteer as news staff, please contact zero wolf or me.
If the existing staff were actually friendly, and didn't insist they are always right, and anyone who disagrees, is wrong... makes for crappy discussions >:oP Your staff is ACTIVELY telling people, if they don't like a particular toy/movie line, then don't join that thread... WTF is that?


I don't think this site is THAT bad. Both this and the Allspark are fairly friendly, right?
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby transformers_va » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:52 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:I don't think this site is THAT bad. Both this and the Allspark are fairly friendly, right?
Yes, it's not THAT bad, but it's definitely gotten worse throughout the years. The members are, on the whole, great people to converse with, but the staff could definitely be improved
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:04 pm

transformers_va wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I don't think this site is THAT bad. Both this and the Allspark are fairly friendly, right?
Yes, it's not THAT bad, but it's definitely gotten worse throughout the years. The members are, on the whole, great people to converse with, but the staff could definitely be improved


Even at my most trollsome, the staff here have been far better than a certain, toxic, other TF site.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:14 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:I don't think this site is THAT bad. Both this and the Allspark are fairly friendly, right?
Yes, it's not THAT bad, but it's definitely gotten worse throughout the years. The members are, on the whole, great people to converse with, but the staff could definitely be improved

Well, I did my bit to make it better! :-D
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby DeathReviews » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:38 pm

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It looks good - I've got the Studio series #38 voyager though. Is there anything about the MP version that sets it truly apart from the S. Series figure? The voyager looks to have all the same articulation, for example - right down to the swivel-only head. If the MP version is significantly larger, has some die cast metal, and more heft, then it might be worth the investment.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:55 pm

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transformers_va wrote:If the existing staff were actually friendly, and didn't insist they are always right, and anyone who disagrees, is wrong... makes for crappy discussions >:oP Your staff is ACTIVELY telling people, if they don't like a particular toy/movie line, then don't join that thread... WTF is that?


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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:09 pm

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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby DEANO85 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:10 am

Here is my MPM-12 with MP-10 and MPM Prime

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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:45 am

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DEANO85 wrote:Here is my MPM-12 with MP-10 and MPM Prime

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Seeing those three together really makes me think Bumblebee Prime is a direct combination of the two.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby transformers_va » Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:03 pm

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DEANO85 wrote:Here is my MPM-12 with MP-10 and MPM Prime

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Is it just the angle, or is MPM-12 that much taller?
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby jtanimator » Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:42 pm

william-james88 wrote:
jtanimator wrote:
transformers_va wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Next time you post something like this, please give the source. Or else it seems like you are passing someone else's content off as yours (even if that isn't your intention).
I was just posting it as an FYI, for those members who were/are interested. It's not about taking credit...

Btw, too many times in past, submitting news (with sources) has been ignored by the site staff... perhaps it would be nice if staff changed their behaviour >:oP


Agreed. Its been a pretty common thing I've noticed and experienced.


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This is my issue as well. Anytime anyone points out a clear issue or attitude the staff have, the only thing they retort with is "well if you're so critical, just join the staff and solve the issues yourselves". Most of us are not in a position to do so, but also enjoy a well updated fandom site for Transformers. That's the equivalent of some people arguing you can't criticize a movie unless you Make better movies yourself. its just a clear way of deflecting apparent issues. I love this site overall, but lately it's become really defensive and arrogant from some of the staff. Just my observation.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:01 pm

jtanimator wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
jtanimator wrote:
transformers_va wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Next time you post something like this, please give the source. Or else it seems like you are passing someone else's content off as yours (even if that isn't your intention).
I was just posting it as an FYI, for those members who were/are interested. It's not about taking credit...

Btw, too many times in past, submitting news (with sources) has been ignored by the site staff... perhaps it would be nice if staff changed their behaviour >:oP


Agreed. Its been a pretty common thing I've noticed and experienced.


If anyone wants to help out and volunteer as news staff, please contact zero wolf or me.


This is my issue as well. Anytime anyone points out a clear issue or attitude the staff have, the only thing they retort with is "well if you're so critical, just join the staff and solve the issues yourselves". Most of us are not in a position to do so, but also enjoy a well updated fandom site for Transformers. That's the equivalent of some people arguing you can't criticize a movie unless you Make better movies yourself. its just a clear way of deflecting apparent issues. I love this site overall, but lately it's become really defensive and arrogant from some of the staff. Just my observation.


At least we have the option of discussing the site, and being invited to join. Have you ever been to TFW? Their own rules demand that people cannot even question or criticise any aspect of the site or staff decisions in public. The senior mods there treat both the community and "junior" mods like dirt and the main parts of the forums have regressed into a toxic, f-bomb strewn "bro-party", with comments and themes that often break the site's own rules regarding appropriate content/language. Seibertron, by comparison doesn't seem to suffer any of that, right?

However, I do agree that just because we can't/won't join the staff here, doesn't mean that we shouldn't expect reasonable dialogue or change from those that have.

Regardless, is there a thread to divert (but not bury) this tangent discussion? I would like my inbox to be spammed by more talk about the Primus-awful MPM BB OP figure, please.
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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

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primalxconvoy wrote:Regardless, is there a thread to divert (but not bury) this tangent discussion? I would like my inbox to be spammed by more talk about the Primus-awful MPM BB OP figure, please.


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Re: MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Discussion Thread

Postby DEANO85 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:20 pm

transformers_va wrote:Is it just the angle, or is MPM-12 that much taller?


No that's just the angle haha
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