ZeroWolf wrote:The only time evil will truly win is part one of a duology, a part 2 of s trilogy, on in Star Wars example parts 3 and 5 (in a certain point of view you can chalk the entire prequel trilogy as a bad guy win).
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Anyway, in spite of the characterisation misfires, Beast Machines was the last time in a main series the villain was allowed to win.
There was... one time, that the bad guys beat the good guys, in an ordinary episode.
Beast Wars season 1 episode 11, "The Probe". The Maximals made a plan of their own in that episode, and Megatron ruined it. He won, they lost.
And now that I think about it, the Maximals lost a second time in the very next episode, "Victory".
The Preds faked their own demise, successfully tricking the Maximals into thinking they were destroyed. The Maximals looted the Preds' ship for tech to make the Axalon fly again, and nearly left the planet to return to Cybertron... until Megatron ruined that plan too, forcing the Maximals to remain stranded. They lost, again.