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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:34 pm

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Razorbeast88 wrote:I liked the little joke about how he wouldve made a terrible Maximal, if only because it seems like the humor that Dinobot enjoys
Thats how he interacted with rattrap in the beast wars series, even up to his death in code of hero
The thing is, we're never given any reason to believe that Dinobot and Primal in this series ever had the kind of relationship that would have warranted such nuanced banter between the two, making the humor behind that line feel unearned.

This show expects its viewers to already be familiar with the original BW series and how all of its characters behaved and interacted with each other, as if that somehow excuses this show from writing its new versions of the BW cast as their own characters without the audience needing to do additional homework in order to get everything that's onscreen in this show, never taking into consideration any new viewers who aren't already familiar with Beast Wars.

That's one of the same flaws as found in the live action remake of Aladdin, which similarly expected its own audience to already be familiar with the original animated movie and thus didn't explain everything that the original movie did feel the need to explain.


Ah, good point
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:36 pm

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Though I'm not sure they would've been able to include the proper explanations considering they were limited to the 6 episodes with each episode being 20ish minutes. Plus incorporating all the different characters and the plot.

But as you've been saying they could've done their own thing instead of bringing back the old without explanations
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Whifflefire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:07 pm

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Razorbeast88 wrote:Though I'm not sure they would've been able to include the proper explanations considering they were limited to the 6 episodes with each episode being 20ish minutes. Plus incorporating all the different characters and the plot.


That's why I prefer to think of these as movies. The episodes don't do much to make it episodic, it is a continuous story throughout, so it is structurally more like a film. You're not going to have the same amount of build-up of a full television series as everything needs to be brought from point A to point B in about two hours, so the plot needs to focus on a single main goal, with a few minor detours. Each entry in the WFC Trilogy does pretty much that. Cyberverse was the opposite, where there each episode only had enough time to be a sideplot. When shows are properly episodic, featuring stand-alone main plots with world-building subplots, you get good small scale stories while gradually building up to epic ideas. This trilogy had no chance to accomplish the same feats as an actual television show, but adequately condensed the major beats of many familiar stories and wove them together to create something new, even if not so original. Things like Dinobot's arc played out here as best as they could had there been a Beast Wars movie remake.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby First-Aid » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:53 am

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Not a big one on throwing in thoughts on these series as I take them for what they are: entertainment. That said, the show series could have been half the length it was if not for the director's idea that ALLLLLLLL DDDDDIIIIIAAAAALLLLOOOOOOGGGGGUUUUUEEEEE SSSHHHHOOOUUULLLLDDDDD BEEEEEEEE................................................................................................................................................................................DDDRRRRAAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNN OOOOOUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTT.

I skimmed the comments and someone said that Prime went "full Shatner". Heh. Pretty accurate, but the difference is that ALLLL the characters went full Shatner, so it wasn't the character, it was the directing. A nice, normal pace of speaking would have been appreciated, and they still could have gotten the drama across. That said, if they'd done that, I'm pretty sure the 6 episodes would have lasted a total of 10 minutes.

Overall, I found myself enjoying the story. The Dead Multiverse comment was interesting, meaning that there IS a multiverse and the other accepted versions of Transformers are probably out there in it. It would be an interesting twist to see a situation where, in order to defeat Unicron once and for all, ALL the versions of Optimus Prime had to assemble in one place. It would give HasTak a chance to refine and/or reintroduce other versions of Prime (RID, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, G1, G2, Beast Wars, Japanese Beast Wars, Neo, etc). Optimus Prime, despite the popularity of Bumblebee currently, is STILL the most popular Transformers character and a series joining ALL the Optimuses (Optimi? Optima? Stupid Latin interpretations...)- not the Primes, but just the Ops with updated toy technology would be interesting. It's like those posters that Dreamwave did back in the day with all the Ops and all the Megatrons. That could be entertaining...and a legitimately viable way to destroy Unicron once and for all. (If you want involvement of Primus, the end of this series has the possibility of Unicron crashing THIS particular Cybertron's dimension but Primus would still be recovering, thus needing the assemblage of Ops).

Just some side thoughts...overall, like I said, I enjoyed the watch. Blackarachnia's voice was almost spot on. Like others have said, BW Megs was horrible but only in that it was so different from what we are used to; it fit how they developed this character.

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:30 pm

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IMO...

Positives:

- Lovely colour palette and animation (when used), and it looked fine in 1080p on my old HD telly.

- The intro was short, but featured "wireframe", 80's styled CG. All of which ticked my TF/sci-fi boxes.

- Black Arachnia liked "the fembots" (which I was happy to see, for a more inclusive attitude towards our general population and, I'm ashamed to admit, because as a neanderthal male, I thought it was "hot", sorry...).

- Some good voice acting (at least in approximation to the original characters) for Ratrap, Black Arachnia, etc.

- Interesting use of both Nemesis and Galvatron as Unicron's heralds (something, I and many others, have, I'm sure, imagined for a long time).

- Musical score seemed functional and didn't detract from the show.

- Lots of fan-service (G1 and BW animals fighting each other, BW references, such as "Air Commander Starscream", etc).


Negatives:

- Awful voice acting for Optimus, etc (I...must...speak...wiiithhh...long...pausessssssss....").

- Muddy, indistinct sound mixing, such as indistinct voices (Soundwave, Nemesis computer, The Ark, etc), the music, sound effects and dialogue all being different volumes (currently requiring me to change the volume) and actors often mumbling their lines (requiring subtitles for me to understand what was said, at times).

- What the DICKENS were all of the Scorponok clones about?

- The BW bot modes didn't look like their recent toys. If Hasblo wanted the show to shoe-horn the Ark and many other toys into this show, why did they allow these "new" botmodes (however nice they may/may not look) to be used, when they don't look like the toys they're meant to promote?

- A confusing, convoluted "plot" with faaaaar too many mcguffins (I didn't understand how Rhinox magically fixed the Ark, why the dead universe helped everyone survive, etc).

- No point of using the Ark in bot mode (as the budget could have been used for other, more important things in the show).

- Far too many "faction switches" (just like the previous shows, characters seem to change allegiances at the drop off a hat and end up chatting amicably with an enemy that was trying to kill them brutally mere seconds previously).

- Hardly anyone actually transformed on-camera, which, arguably, is the (ahem) "money shot" of any given TF show.

Although this was the "best" of the trilogy's offerings, it could have been far better. Using the original/better voice actors, better sound mixing and voice recording (Soundwave, etc), a more streamlined plot, less mcguffins and better writing could have made this a contender. As it is, I enjoyed the recent "MOTU - Revelation" cartoon on Netflix more than this.

But then again, this IS a Hasblo production we're talking about here, so I'm not really surprised.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:42 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:- Lots of fan-service (G1 and BW animals fighting each other, BW references, such as "Air Commander Starscream", etc).
"Air Commander" is a G1 reference, it was Starscream's function in his original 1984 toy bio. The BW episode mentioning it was thanks to Ben Yee providing Starscream's toy bio to the episode's writer.

primalxconvoy wrote:- What the DICKENS were all of the Scorponok clones about?
Generic cannon fodder foot soldiers, just like all the Cog duplicates, all the Refraktor duplicates, all the extra Seekers, and more from the previous two seasons.

primalxconvoy wrote:- No point of using the Ark in bot mode (as the budget could have been used for other, more important things in the show).
It was to provide the Autobots with a quick victory against the Nemesis, wrapping up that battle fast so that all the Decepticons and Predacons could be rounded up and locked up aboard the Ark.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:53 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:- Lots of fan-service (G1 and BW animals fighting each other, BW references, such as "Air Commander Starscream", etc).
"Air Commander" is a G1 reference, it was Starscream's function in his original 1984 toy bio. The BW episode mentioning it was thanks to Ben Yee providing Starscream's toy bio to the episode's writer.

Yes, like I said, it was BW fan service.

primalxconvoy wrote:- What the DICKENS were all of the Scorponok clones about?
Generic cannon fodder foot soldiers, just like all the Cog duplicates, all the Refraktor duplicates, all the extra Seekers, and more from the previous two seasons.

Not really. Scorponok was never cloned cannon-fodder. In the previous Seige cartoons, the clones were usually recoloured. In this show, he wasn't.

primalxconvoy wrote:- No point of using the Ark in bot mode (as the budget could have been used for other, more important things in the show).
It was to provide the Autobots with a quick victory against the Nemesis, wrapping up that battle fast so that all the Decepticons and Predacons could be rounded up and locked up aboard the Ark.


There could have easily been other ways for this to happen. The only reason it was included was to promote the toy. Fair enough, but like I said, why weren't the BW character models closer to the recently released toys, due to similar, promotional reasons?
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:15 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:Not really. Scorponok was never cloned cannon-fodder. In the previous Seige cartoons, the clones were usually recoloured. In this show, he wasn't.
Doesn't matter what color they were. They were cannon fodder meant to boost the Predacons' ranks in the same way all of the other duplicate generics were. No one said anything about cloning.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:46 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:Not really. Scorponok was never cloned cannon-fodder. In the previous Seige cartoons, the clones were usually recoloured. In this show, he wasn't.
Doesn't matter what color they were. They were cannon fodder meant to boost the Predacons' ranks in the same way all of the other duplicate generics were. No one said anything about cloning.


Except that they are clones, or copies of each other, regardless of whether they are, in the show's universe, clones of an actual individual called "Scorponok". As such, this was another weakness off this show, as they used identical copies of an established character with no explanation and/or different colours to explain why they were all identical.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:53 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Not really. Scorponok was never cloned cannon-fodder. In the previous Seige cartoons, the clones were usually recoloured. In this show, he wasn't.
Doesn't matter what color they were. They were cannon fodder meant to boost the Predacons' ranks in the same way all of the other duplicate generics were. No one said anything about cloning.


Except that they are clones, or copies of each other, regardless of whether they are, in the show's universe, clones of an actual individual called "Scorponok". As such, this was another weakness off this show, as they used identical copies of an established character with no explanation and/or different colours to explain why they were all identical.
They're still generics no matter what color they are. We've had same-color generics a zillion times before in this entire brand. This is nothing new.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:54 pm

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I disagree. With Seekers and the Weaponisers, some level of "genericness" (sic) had been easily inferred. Even in the original BW, or Energon trilogy cartoons, reused character models were usually accepted, and moreso as their original character models were given some screentime as the "intended" character.

Not so with Scorponok in this cartoon.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:43 am

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primalxconvoy wrote:I disagree. With Seekers and the Weaponisers, some level of "genericness" (sic) had been easily inferred. Even in the original BW, or Energon trilogy cartoons, reused character models were usually accepted, and moreso as their original character models were given some screentime as the "intended" character.

Not so with Scorponok in this cartoon.
Oh for crying out loud. It is literally no different than the Sweeps, the Vehicon drones, the Energon Terrorcons, the Prime Vehicons, the Prime Insecticons, or any other mass produced nobodies who all look the same that we've gotten over the past 30+ years. They just chose to take the Scorponok toy and use it as generic troop fodder, instead of as a single character, for this show.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:45 am

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primalxconvoy wrote:I disagree. With Seekers and the Weaponisers, some level of "genericness" (sic) had been easily inferred. Even in the original BW, or Energon trilogy cartoons, reused character models were usually accepted, and moreso as their original character models were given some screentime as the "intended" character.

Not so with Scorponok in this cartoon.
Oh for crying out loud. It is literally no different than the Sweeps, the Vehicon drones, the Energon Terrorcons, the Prime Vehicons, the Prime Insecticons, or any other mass produced nobodies who all look the same that we've gotten over the past 30+ years. They just chose to take the Scorponok toy and use it as generic troop fodder, instead of as a single character, for this show.


Yes, and I believe that detracted from the show because it is NOT the same as the examples you've given.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:53 pm

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So I watched Kingdom, and surprisingly, I enjoyed it. I'm going to share some non-spoilers thoughts below:

-Starscream became the star of the show. He and Dinobot to me put in the best performances and both played to their strengths. Well done on both of them

-You can definitely feel Mae Catt's influence in her episodes. And specifically, the way Airazor, Blackarachnia, and Starscream are written.

-the episode 6 twist and reveals didn't really land with me. 1 in particular was a very bad choice, and ruined a lot of storylines

-Scotty__P said it best regarding episode 6: too much for 1 episode, not enough for 2. Goes towards the empty feeling from the conclusion.

-also, there felt like a lack of consequences for 1 particular character? He was pure terrible with a fake face, but didn't suffer for it

-i liked the Beasts and the way they slipped in. I enjoyed them.

-voices were all over the board, but some were tightened up for this series. Just give Megatron more to do, he has great range! And let Prime edge closer to Cyberverse, it's his strength.

Overall, Kingdom was enjoyed. I didn't expect to enjoy it, but I did. It's worth watching.

I'd give it a 6 or 7 out of 10 personally. It was around the level of Cyberverse season 1 for me
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Interocitron » Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:15 pm

Maybe I'm just getting jaded, but there was almost nothing about this trilogy I cared for. Just bad vibes all around, man.

So, see you all in a year or so for the next three Netflix chapters? :D
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:26 pm

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby TulioDude » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:22 pm

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Overall thoughts on the series:

-It was good!

-I really like how the series places the Autobots and Maximals in equal moral grounds.The narrative doesn't place one above the other.

-I like the dichotomy between the first meeting of the crews.The Decepticons have a conversation with the Predacons,while the Autobots and Maximals have a small tussle.

-Starscream best moments in this trilogy are in Kingdom

-The voices for the Beast Wars characters are good.After getting used with David Kaye's smooth Megatron voice for a long time,the new voice for Beast Megatron jumped out at me,but the new voice is fine.
You can tell that with him and Dinobot they were trying to mimic the manneirisms of the original characters.For the most part, it worked.Shoutout for Rhinox,for me his voice sounded nearly identical to the original.

-I think they did the best they could with Dinobot.They did want to recreate his arc from Beast Wars while having a six episode restraint,they did have to focus a lot to get him here in time,but it worked.His fight against Decepticons and Predacons was awesome.The quiet moment with the Matrix was a nice touch and he did get a nice sendoff with Primal watching.

-I kinda expected that Beast Megatron was plotting something behind the Decepticons back,but it was a surprise to see that his respect and admiration is genuine.The original Beast Wars series left room for this interpretation of the character.

-I'm suprised that Deseeus didn't appear.We never learn what were their intentions.

-Nemesis Prime was mostly saved for the ending,but hearing the other characters talking about him,building up to his appearance,helped to give a big presence.

-Having Megatron defy Galvatron was an interesting touch.He was trying to a help collective cause,while also fighting for his own motivations.

-Cybertron being saved,but having a few surviors,with a peace between factions that,while Unicron has plans of his own,would be a cool setting for a new story.

Whifflefire wrote:My biggest disappointment with Kingdom is the confirmation that the Cybertron-based cast were all killed, thus rendering half of Earthrise kind of pointless. I had a theory that with the introduction of time-travel, the Autobots might have found a way to return to their time just before the apparent deaths of Elita and Co. and rescue them, since their plot ended on a cliffhanger. With their fates kind of ambiguous, it would have been a brilliant way to resolve that ending and the trilogy with all of the characters reuniting. The series had been really good at not wasting its cast, that it chose 'total annihilation' as the end of this part of the story is an underwhelming and unfortunate conclusion.

Ultimately, I enjoyed the WFC Trilogy. It had great ideas and brought together many different parts of the franchise's lore in interesting ways, even if it was let down a bit by the voice acting and structure. But overall a solid entry into Transformers history in support of one of the greatest toylines we've ever had. 'B' for the trilogy at whole and B+ for Kingdom itself.


I have been wondering about this too,if at some point it was an idea they considered during the planning stages.
It could been a more wholesome ending if they did this,but in the end,I didn't hate the the execution.The absence of these characters gives greater weight to state of Cybertron.

Razorbeast88 wrote:I liked the little joke about how he wouldve made a terrible Maximal, if only because it seems like the humor that Dinobot enjoys
Thats how he interacted with rattrap in the beast wars series, even up to his death in code of hero


Yeah Dinobot was a standout.
I watched this series with my family and my sister has never seen Beast Wars,so I asked if she thought the series made a good job with introducing the Maximals and Predacons and she said yes.I though this too.They made a good job connecting the different casts.
Dinobot was her favorite.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Rogue-Primal » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:41 pm

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So far from what i've seen in Kingdom... these are my issues with it, haven't seen episode 6.

Squeaky-voiced BW Megatron. Without David Kaye the BW Megatron doesn't feel right. :BOOM:

Same goes for no Garry Chalk for Optimus Primal.

Most of the fights feel short and unsatisfying.

They missed out on referencing Rattrap's original claim that Arcee was his Great Aunt according to the history books.

Dinobot "died" in this continuity instead of surviving after saving the Matrix of Leadership.

The Allspark has a boobytrap consisting of hallucinations and a forcefield.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby #1 Signal Lancer fan » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:18 pm

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Just got all caught up on the trilogy.

The series has a lot of problems, but in that regard I'm sure everything that I have to say has already been said.

What I will say is I loved the Nemesis Prime/Galvatron team and the premise behind their timeline. I would really love to see more of that.

Given that ending, is there supposed to be a follow-up series? Has there been any word of that yet?
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby o.supreme » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:23 pm

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I doubt there will be a follow up. It's something the production team often does at the end to just leave the door open "in case". CW had a similar type ending. Even the original Transformers ended in such a way.

Basically FJ Desanto is going with the Idea that Unicron is a multiuniversal singularity and can appear anywhere, at anytime. So even if the next Transformers series that tries to homage the original doesn't involve anyone who worked on WFC, the never ending cycle can continue ;) .
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Rogue-Primal » Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:34 pm

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This series has a new problem. We won't get a WFC season 4 with the matrix back on cybertron.
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:38 pm

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Rogue-Primal wrote:This series has a new problem. We won't get a WFC season 4 with the matrix back on cybertron.
What? Optimus got the Matrix back. He took it with him back to Cybertron.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Rogue-Primal » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:12 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:This series has a new problem. We won't get a WFC season 4 with the matrix back on cybertron.
What? Optimus got the Matrix back. He took it with him back to Cybertron.


Just found the episode and what i can say is. It kinda feels rushed. They use similar recent plotpoints from cyberverse with Bumblebee returning the McGuffin and the Truce from Cyberverse.

However because of the truce i do think the Allspark should have restored those who died throughout the series. But with no season 4 we won't see more of the this WFC Quintesson unless he is re-used.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:50 pm

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Rogue-Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:This series has a new problem. We won't get a WFC season 4 with the matrix back on cybertron.
What? Optimus got the Matrix back. He took it with him back to Cybertron.


Just found the episode and what i can say is. It kinda feels rushed. They use similar recent plotpoints from cyberverse with Bumblebee returning the McGuffin and the Truce from Cyberverse.

However because of the truce i do think the Allspark should have restored those who died throughout the series. But with no season 4 we won't see more of the this WFC Quintesson unless he is re-used.
But Deseeus died when the Fool's Fortune exploded.

Are you feeling okay? You seem to be misremembering a number of things.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Rogue-Primal » Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:27 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:This series has a new problem. We won't get a WFC season 4 with the matrix back on cybertron.
What? Optimus got the Matrix back. He took it with him back to Cybertron.


Just found the episode and what i can say is. It kinda feels rushed. They use similar recent plotpoints from cyberverse with Bumblebee returning the McGuffin and the Truce from Cyberverse.

However because of the truce i do think the Allspark should have restored those who died throughout the series. But with no season 4 we won't see more of the this WFC Quintesson unless he is re-used.
But Deseeus died when the Fool's Fortune exploded.

Are you feeling okay? You seem to be misremembering a number of things.

I may have forgotten about Deseeus's death. I haven't found episode 6 yet but i used a fast episode summary.
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