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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:39 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:I've got TR Bee ready for eBay soon, so I just took a look at the 2 of them (sorry no time for photos).

Netflix bee is definitely bigger both in terms of mass and size. Mass, TR is 31 grams and Netflix is 48 grams (just Bee, without the gun). The Netflix Bee car mode is about 3/4 of an inch longer as well. In bot mode they are pretty comparable, with Netflix Bee just a tiny bit taller.

Where you really see the difference is in the quality of the design and the articulation. TR Bee has no waist swivel, no ankle tilts, no wrist swivel, simple ball joints for the hips, elbows and shoulders, and a pin joint for the knees.

Netflix Bee by comparison has waist swivel, wrist swivel, ankle tilts, thigh swivels, and multiple pin and rotating joints instead of the ball joints for the arms and hips. Even just looking at a single leg from the hip down; TR Bee has 5 pieces of plastic that make up each leg (thigh, calf, foot, wheel and the little flap). Netflix bee has at least 9.


Perfect, I love all the details you shared, that should help fans quite a bit. Thank you.


It actually surprised me a bit when I looked at all the articulation details and number of parts to make up the better joints. I feel that is one aspect many fans (I know I've done it myself) overlook when trying to judge the price points and the complexity of engineering. Just going from ball shoulder joint to a set of pin and rotating joints pushes just 1 joint from 2 pieces to 4-6 pieces once you add in the metal pins.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby Sowndwave76 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:32 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:Netflix Bee turning into a vw bug is the highlight of the figure, it does have more engineering over tr bee in general.

TR Bees ball joints are partly the reason (and results in his arms looking awkward) but tr bee dies have some better engineering in parts. Not only from the gimmick of a titan master driver having to be incorporated but it's chest has the accordian folding parts of Vehicon and kingdoms cyclonus for his chest area. Boat feet are still present on both the figures. Obviously no parts forming either which is upto the handler if that's better engineering or not.

Compared to classics deluxe with its folding seats, jet pack/trailer I'd say classics is the better over the two of them but it isn't a beetle. If tr bee had a wheel on his back and his arms had a few more transformations it would have been a lot better than it is, but £8 to £20 not seeing that difference.


I have TR Bee (still sealed), and even when holding him up to Cliffjumper, I couldn't quite tell that they're THAT close in height; I obviously could see they're close, but seeing this photo it was still a little surprising...
Don't get me wrong, I still hope to find Netflix Bee. If not, I'll be real tempted to open my Classics Bee which is also still sealed!
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:57 pm

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My Netflix Bee lives in vehicle mode where as my Tak Legends Bee gets displayed in bot mode (him being just a little smaller than wfc cliff is my ideal, his chest and yellow paint give him the slightest of edges of him being on display in bot mode despite Netflix Bee probably being better in all.
Kinds glad for Netflix Bees orange tho with the way they did WFC Sunstreaker and it doesnt look off on him, probably makes TR Bee seem more cyberverse/RIDish than anything else when stood together.

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I think I prefer studio series vw beetle mode more but wfc cars seem to have been thinned down compared to previous lines. Studio series is a small deluxe and is still considerably larger than netflix bee. If netflix was a bit more chibi then it might have been my fave vehicle wise. Best toy is probably classics but it wasn't trying to be accurate to anything and at end of the day netflix is the best choice for an updated g1 look (but tr has the wheels on his arms like the G1 toy... I'm so conflicted arrrgh).
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:03 am

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Postby william-james88 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:44 am

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We have seen these two figures for a while now and yet we never got a shot of the purple Paleotrex' alt mode. But now we do, thanks to images from Tonezone on instagram. This purple redeco of Paleotres is supposed to come in the spoiler pack for the third wave of Netflix Transformers figures and the robot head can be used as a purple energon mace of sorts as an homage to Megatron's classic weapon. We also see more shots of Barricade which is made in a deco to look like the zombie sparkless version we see in the War for Cybertron show. That also explains why it's the cybertronian mold they use rather than the earth one. The other deluxes in the same wave, that we have already seen, are Cheetor and a quintesson soldier Ironhide.

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby o.supreme » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:46 am

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:03 pm

Seeing the mace-face playing peekaboo above the dino head in dino mode makes me wonder about the longevity of the spikes on the mace. The clearance for pushing the bot/mace head all the way into the dino head is already really tight on my copy of Paleotrex. The only way I can get it in is to sort of rotate slightly to one side and then the other as the spikes are just a little too big to push the head in straight on.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:42 pm

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:12 pm

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Neat "knight helmet" deco on that Paleotrex's forehead.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:02 pm

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I love the zombie pose they got going on for dead Barricade
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:49 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Neat "knight helmet" deco on that Paleotrex's forehead.

Just to clarify for anyone reading this, it really is just the deco, the sculpt is the same as the original. It was an interesting choice to paint that bit up.

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby MeGrimlock78 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:17 pm

I really want to like these Fossilizers, I do.

But the robot modes are just so meh (I think that's the technical term)

They are just too weird for me. I almost get a Beast Wars Neo vibe from them, but taken in a strange, new, horrifying direction.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:22 pm

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MeGrimlock78 wrote:I almost get a Beast Wars Neo vibe from them, but taken in a strange, new, horrifying direction.
How? The Beast Wars Neo molds were defined by large amount of beast mode kibble shell pieces just hanging off the robot modes. The Fossilizers make use of all of their beast mode parts just to make humanoid parts for their robot modes.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:22 pm

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MeGrimlock78 wrote:I really want to like these Fossilizers, I do.

But the robot modes are just so meh (I think that's the technical term)

They are just too weird for me. I almost get a Beast Wars Neo vibe from them, but taken in a strange, new, horrifying direction.

Well you could choose to display them as armour pieces on other figures;)
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby o.supreme » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:47 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
MeGrimlock78 wrote:I almost get a Beast Wars Neo vibe from them, but taken in a strange, new, horrifying direction.
How? The Beast Wars Neo molds were defined by large amount of beast mode kibble shell pieces just hanging off the robot modes. The Fossilizers make use of all of their beast mode parts just to make humanoid parts for their robot modes.



Of course, I'm not the OP. However, it did get me thinking in that, the original 3 deluxe fuzors, which became the Blendtrons in the BW Neo anime went from pretty cool toys that Hasbro developed, to amazingly awesome as envisioned by Takara. I could see the fossilizers as a new group of "Blendtrons" (although by definition not blended from anything, but you get the idea) sent by Unicron in the WFC continuity. THAT would be awesome!
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby MeGrimlock78 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:20 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
MeGrimlock78 wrote:I almost get a Beast Wars Neo vibe from them, but taken in a strange, new, horrifying direction.
How? The Beast Wars Neo molds were defined by large amount of beast mode kibble shell pieces just hanging off the robot modes. The Fossilizers make use of all of their beast mode parts just to make humanoid parts for their robot modes.


Maybe it's Paleotrex's feet (remind me of Triceradon's feet) or the weird faces on the Fossilizers.

I feel like the Fossilizers have robot parts jutting out of the beast parts, in a similar way to Neo toys.

BTW, the Neo toys were awesome for their strangeness, but I just can't quite get on board with Fossilizers.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby MeGrimlock78 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:23 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
MeGrimlock78 wrote:I really want to like these Fossilizers, I do.

But the robot modes are just so meh (I think that's the technical term)

They are just too weird for me. I almost get a Beast Wars Neo vibe from them, but taken in a strange, new, horrifying direction.

Well you could choose to display them as armour pieces on other figures;)


Still waiting to see Volcanicus decked out in bone-armour. Even just the thought of making some BIG melee weapons out of the parts is tempting...
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:16 pm

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I cant find the photo at the mo of 3x paleotrexs combined but the bot mode was really impressive, no doubt it will be the same for three purple ones...but Megatrons going to have to be something special (maybe Galvatron transformation sequence) to convince me to pick up the spoiler pack.

The mace works for Primal as his weapon could be used as one, but with out it being a flail its not even remotely a homeage to Megs weapon.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby transformers_va » Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:40 pm

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby Changewinds » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:17 pm

I love that there are so many possibilities with the fossilizers. The purple looks great and it would be fun to mix and match fossilizers like the Mr. Potato versions.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby Epsilon Delta » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:37 pm

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:43 pm

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Okay, with that new knight face deco and blue robot eyes, I really want Paleotrex to join with Dinobot in his defecting to the Maximals. He looks too noble to stay a bad guy.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:56 pm

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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy TOY line discussion

Postby o.supreme » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:57 pm

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I'm just impressed someone actually got the armor to work with Primal, that looks pretty cool. I really want this purple Paleotrex, but I hope the rumors of this coming with yet another Megatron (Spoiler Box) is not true. That would be what the 8th use of that mold? I really hope it comes with something else.
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