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News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:16 pm

JTPrime, who is part of our Seibertronian community, has posted finding new listings in the Walmart app. these listings are definitely new though it's tough right now to make anything of them, as you will soon see. Here are the complete names of these upcoming toys:

Tra Gen G1 Red Soundwave
EAN: 5010993729012

Tra Gen G1 Red Megatron
EAN: 5010993729029

The fact that this is from Walmart, who have had G1 exclusives for the past few years, along with "G1" in the listing could point to G1 toys. But, of course, there's Megatron and we will never have a rerelease of G1 Megatron, the gun, in America. We see that it also has the word "Gen" in there, so it could be part of the Generations line and the "red" being a redeco. Honestly, it could be anything, aside form the aforementioned G1 gun megatron. So let us know what you think.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:42 pm

Yeah, I doubt they'd actually be red since Target would likely complain a little about Walmart getting red redecos from Hasbro. Who knows, maybe it's not "red" but (RED) (which I guess would still be "red" but for a reason)?

Another possibility is Siege Megatron and Soundwave with no "dirt" and some chromed parts to make them look like the G1 toys.

Emerje

by **Gearslide** » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:46 pm

Emerje wrote:Yeah, I doubt they'd actually be red since Target would likely complain a little about Walmart getting red redecos from Hasbro. Who knows, maybe it's not "red" but (RED) (which I guess would still be "red" but for a reason)?

Another possibility is Siege Megatron and Soundwave with no "dirt" and some chromed parts to make them look like the G1 toys.

Emerje

What are the chances that "red" is short for "redeco" and these are Siege Toys redeco'd into G1 color schemes?

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:54 pm

Gearslide wrote:
Emerje wrote:Yeah, I doubt they'd actually be red since Target would likely complain a little about Walmart getting red redecos from Hasbro. Who knows, maybe it's not "red" but (RED) (which I guess would still be "red" but for a reason)?

Another possibility is Siege Megatron and Soundwave with no "dirt" and some chromed parts to make them look like the G1 toys.

Emerje

What are the chances that "red" is short for "redeco" and these are Siege Toys redeco'd into G1 color schemes?

About as likely as Will said it was in the article.

Emerje

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:03 am

Maybe we'll be lucky and it's short for "redo".

by **Gearslide** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:03 am

Emerje wrote:
Gearslide wrote:
Emerje wrote:Yeah, I doubt they'd actually be red since Target would likely complain a little about Walmart getting red redecos from Hasbro. Who knows, maybe it's not "red" but (RED) (which I guess would still be "red" but for a reason)?

Another possibility is Siege Megatron and Soundwave with no "dirt" and some chromed parts to make them look like the G1 toys.

Emerje

What are the chances that "red" is short for "redeco" and these are Siege Toys redeco'd into G1 color schemes?

About as likely as Will said it was in the article.

Emerje

Huh. Whoops. I swear it didn't say that initially. But I guess I just have selective reading.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:26 am

Interesting, watch this be redecoed versions of ER Megatron and a redecoed version of a unseen ER Soundwave.

News Credits: 18 · by **leokearon** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:04 am

Wouldn't a Red Soundwave be Balster

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:11 am

Redecos based on the 1980s-90s Marvel comics would be interesting. Purple Soundwave and black-helmeted Megatron...

News Credits: 1 · by **YRQRM0** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:02 am

Surely not another Wal Mart release of Megatron? They had Siege, the anniversary cel shaded repaint, the upcoming Netflix redeco, and something else?

by **RustedCross** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:17 am

Wouldn’t a red Megatron be Optimus Prime?

News Credits: 18 · by **leokearon** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:40 am

RustedCross wrote:Wouldn’t a red Megatron be Optimus Prime?

yes, and it would look really cool

News Credits: 20 · by **Tuned Agent** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:18 am

Here's hoping that Megs is a miner/IDW retool and that Soundwave is the Siege figure with a battle damage-less deco and slight retooling to fix his chest compartment. Probably won't be, though. >:oP

I'm starting to get concerned about the number of Megatrons being pumped out, with the number of Siege (and, last I checked, 35th anniversary) Megatrons still clogging the shelves. If this is a redeco/retool of Siege or ER Megs, this will be the fifth version of essentially the same voyager Megs released at retail in just two years, with a whopping 3 of them as Wal-Mart exclusives.

Of course, maybe these are reissues of G1 Soundwave and G2 Megatron in G1 colors, or something like that.

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:55 pm

Emerje wrote:
Gearslide wrote:
Emerje wrote:Yeah, I doubt they'd actually be red since Target would likely complain a little about Walmart getting red redecos from Hasbro. Who knows, maybe it's not "red" but (RED) (which I guess would still be "red" but for a reason)?

Another possibility is Siege Megatron and Soundwave with no "dirt" and some chromed parts to make them look like the G1 toys.

Emerje

What are the chances that "red" is short for "redeco" and these are Siege Toys redeco'd into G1 color schemes?

About as likely as Will said it was in the article.

Emerje

I don't think anyone has suggested this yet, but Studio Series is technically Generations... What if it's two of the Studio Series molds??

(I don't actually believe it is, but how f***ing rad would a blue car-Soundwave be?!)

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:07 pm

Tuned Agent wrote:Here's hoping that Megs is a miner/IDW retool and that Soundwave is the Siege figure with a battle damage-less deco and slight retooling to fix his chest compartment. Probably won't be, though.

I'm starting to get concerned about the number of Megatrons being pumped out, with the number of Siege (and, last I checked, 35th anniversary) Megatrons still clogging the shelves. If this is a redeco/retool of Siege or ER Megs, this will be the fifth version of essentially the same voyager Megs released at retail in just two years, with a whopping 3 of them as Wal-Mart exclusives.

Of course, maybe these are reissues of G1 Soundwave and G2 Megatron in G1 colors, or something like that.

Walmart carried a G1 reissue of Soundwave just last year, though. I don't think these are G1 toys, based on that, and the fact that G1 Megatron will never be reissued outside of Japan ever again. I think Hasbro knows that recoloring a G2 Megatron in gray, black, and red would be cheating too. It would be nice if we had prices to go with these mysterious listings.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:36 pm

I would go all in on an Earthrise Megatron in the G2 comics colors.

by **soundwave765** » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:33 am

So we can have NERF guns... and other weapon related toys but we can not have a G1 Megatron!!?? That's a load of slag.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:24 pm

soundwave765 wrote:So we can have NERF guns... and other weapon related toys but we can not have a G1 Megatron!!?? That's a load of slag.

What if it's a reissue of Nerf gun Megatron?

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:42 pm

soundwave765 wrote:So we can have NERF guns... and other weapon related toys but we can not have a G1 Megatron!!?? That's a load of slag.

NERF guns and the like aren't remotely realistic-looking, though. G1 Megatron, on the other hand, is an expertly-crafted replica of a Walther P38. It's possible that he could pass muster if he was cast entirely in the same color of transparent plastic, to prove that he's just a toy, but retailers are still leery.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:49 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
soundwave765 wrote:So we can have NERF guns... and other weapon related toys but we can not have a G1 Megatron!!?? That's a load of slag.
NERF guns and the like aren't remotely realistic-looking, though. G1 Megatron, on the other hand, is an expertly-crafted replica of a Walther P38. It's possible that he could pass muster if he was cast entirely in the same color of transparent plastic, to prove that he's just a toy, but retailers are still leery.

I'm afraid not even then. Aside from the colors, NERF toys also have some ridiculous proportions compared to real firearms, and even the smallest ones can't be concealed without it looking odd. Not suspect, just weird.

Really, toy guns and genuine firearms need to be of separate designs for the sake of quick and easy recognition by anyone, especially law enforcement. You wouldn't be the first to be shot and/or killed by someone mistaking a (realistically designed) toy for the real thing.

ZeroWolf wrote:
soundwave765 wrote:So we can have NERF guns... and other weapon related toys but we can not have a G1 Megatron!!?? That's a load of slag.

What if it's a reissue of Nerf gun Megatron?

Plausible... were it not the fact Hasbro has problems releasing that toy now. The original Classics deco won't do anymore, so what did they do for the latest Platinum Edition release in 2016?

They were really pushing it with the 2010 Legion if you must know:

Transformers Reveal The Shield Megatron Gallery

And for the sake of argument, Hasbro did try with this little gem back in 2002, but Toys 'R Us back out:

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:50 pm

Wasn't a kid shot once for a wii remote?

by **Jeddostotle7** » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:23 pm

I'm hoping that, whatever deco this may be, the Megatron uses the Earthrise mold, cuz I don't want to be made to buy a fifth version of the exact same identical mold. I want it to be at least a tiny bit different.