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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Shadowman » Wed May 28, 2008 8:21 pm

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Wow, I didn't expect this to be up so soon. I saw the trailer when it was announced, but I thought it wouldn't come out until later.

Spoilers wrote:As I thought. Omega failed to die. The ship mentioned in the trailer was the one Tex hijacked, and Omega is seriously pissed off.


Though I didn't think they'd use Halo 2 again But then, I didn't know what they'd use as a Blood Gulch replacement. (Valhalla and Standoff are much too different)

And I knew this would be an extension of Blood Gulch Chronicles, since the cat list from the Trailer is the exact same, except with the guy who voiced Washington/Recovery One added.
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby UltraPrimal » Wed May 28, 2008 9:58 pm

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Meh. Pretty boring. I don't even remember what happened last. And Rooster Teeth is as slow as ever. When we get to see Caboose again then I'll be happy.
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Shadowman » Wed May 28, 2008 10:09 pm

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UltraPrimal wrote:Meh. Pretty boring. I don't even remember what happened last.


Tex finally accepted O'Malley/Omega, being promised a position of power when O'Malley takes over the Alien race encountered throughout the series. She escapes on the Ship that crashed at the end of season 4, which was loaded with Sheila's AI, and Gary/gamma (Though it was against his will) Wyoming's Time-Travel helmet, Tucker's Kid and another Alien, and unknown to Tex, Andy the bomb, who exploded.

Te series ended with life in Blood Gulch going on as usual. And Sarge invented the Mongoose.

UltraPrimal wrote:And Rooster Teeth is as slow as ever. When we get to see Caboose again then I'll be happy.


He'll be in it, don't worry. If anything, he'll be there in the next episode.

I want to know what's up with Church. He's going to have a lot of stuff going on.
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Psycho Warrior » Thu May 29, 2008 12:38 am

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UltraPrimal wrote:Meh. Pretty boring. I don't even remember what happened last.


Tex finally accepted O'Malley/Omega, being promised a position of power when O'Malley takes over the Alien race encountered throughout the series. She escapes on the Ship that crashed at the end of season 4, which was loaded with Sheila's AI, and Gary/gamma (Though it was against his will) Wyoming's Time-Travel helmet, Tucker's Kid and another Alien, and unknown to Tex, Andy the bomb, who exploded.

Te series ended with life in Blood Gulch going on as usual. And Sarge invented the Mongoose.

UltraPrimal wrote:And Rooster Teeth is as slow as ever. When we get to see Caboose again then I'll be happy.


He'll be in it, don't worry. If anything, he'll be there in the next episode.

I want to know what's up with Church. He's going to have a lot of stuff going on.

Same here, church was always my favorite character. But I'm pretty sure they'll change to halo 3 if the blood gulch guys get out of blood gulch.
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Senor Hugo » Thu May 29, 2008 4:51 am

I was glad to see it return. I did enjoy the more serious turn the series took there for however long that first episode lasted.

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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Shadowman » Fri May 30, 2008 11:15 am

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Senor Hugo wrote:I was glad to see it return. I did enjoy the more serious turn the series took there for however long that first episode lasted.

Can't wait for more.


It wouldn't have worked in the long run, though, especially since the series has to focus on Omega, and that would mean dealing with the Blood Gulch guys. Unless they kill everyone there, all of them are way too wacky for a more dramatic series.

Unless, of course, the Blood Gulch soldiers are only here as background, to explain Omega more in-depth, and the series puts it's focus on Recovery One. Church was a lot more serious in Out of Mind, when he only appeared for a moment in a flashback.
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Shadowman » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:37 am

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Another good episode. When Wash says that it sin't time to celebrate yet, Grif says "Aw, but I was going to be in charge of confetti!"

Which was a reference to RvB episode 2, when Sarge says "That's exactly it, Private. The war's over. We won. Turns out you're the big hero, and we're gonna throw a parade in your honor. I get to drive the float, and Simmons here, IS IN CHARGE OF CONFETTI!!"

So yeah, nice call back.

Wash says that Caboose and the Reds should do some damage to cause a distraction, because Command was where all the the painful scenarios they've had to endure were thought up. This once again points out that everything that happened in RvB wasn't real war, and that they were just test subjects. This was pointed out earlier when Wash demanded to know if anything had happened that wasn't directly preceded by a call to Command, or Command sending them something.

Also, it makes Tucker right. Which reminds me, why hasn't he appeared yet? Tucker, Wyoming, and Donut are the only three who haven't appeared yet. (Not including AIs)
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Shadowman » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:23 am

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Oh. My. Fragging. God.

The beginning of the episode was okay, the parts with the Reds was okay. The ending had left me with goosebumps.

Spoilers wrote:Wash explains to Church that Alpha was tortured to get the AIs to split from it. Delta was it's Logic, Omega it's rage, Gamma/Gary it's deception, and Epsilon, Wash's AI, it's memory, which is being flashed into Church's mind.

Wash explains that Alpha had been hidden after Command was attacked. Church asks why they're at Command if Wash knew this.

Wash explains that Delta had planned for Church to be seen as a Ghost. Wash says he knows what Church is, even if Church doesn't. He says that's why Church can live without a body, adn why he was placed in Blood Gulch, and why everyone was transferred away from him. Wash remembers that jumping from body to body is a trait from Omega. He explains that it's why Church always tended to agree with Delta, why he had no change when he was possessed in RvB Episode 100, and why he was separated after Blood Gulch.

Wash says to Church: "There's no such thing as Ghosts."

Then he says: "You're one of them. You're an AI. You...are the Alpha."


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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Psycho Warrior » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:01 am

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I saw that last night, the ending was so "OMFG" that I had trouble sleeping. I have to wait a whole week to see what happens in the next episode. And knowing my luck it may be a PSA to torment me for another week.

but there is a little loop hole in the logic: Sarge saw church when he was shot in the head. So sarge could be an AI too, or that's just a loop hole they can't fill in.
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Postby UltraPrimal » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:00 pm

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OMG RvB rules! Screw Halo, RvB should have it's own game. BTW, whatever happened to Tex? I don't remember last seasons ending.
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Psycho Warrior » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:53 pm

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UltraPrimal wrote:OMG RvB rules! Screw Halo, RvB should have it's own game. BTW, whatever happened to Tex? I don't remember last seasons ending.

the episodes are all in machinima.com and on YT, and all of reconstruction is on the rvb site
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby The Happy Locust » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:59 pm

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Psycho Warrior wrote:I saw that last night, the ending was so "OMFG" that I had trouble sleeping. I have to wait a whole week to see what happens in the next episode. And knowing my luck it may be a PSA to torment me for another week.

but there is a little loop hole in the logic: Sarge saw church when he was shot in the head. So sarge could be an AI too, or that's just a loop hole they can't fill in.


Theoretically, if Church is an AI, then he was in Sarge's suit more than his mind. I believe the suits have neural connections to their wearers, meaning that Church had a direct link to Sarge's brain while sarge was dying, creating a very fuzzy/foggy image that both parties could easily mistake for an out of body experience, though in truth it was simply Sarge's mental connection fading.

The flaws I can't figure out are: If there's no such things as Ghosts, then does that mean Tex is an AI too? And if so, how could both Omega and Tex inhabit the same body without realizing that Tex is an AI, or even have room for both minds?
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Shadowman » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:28 am

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PW called it. It was a PSA this week. I'M GOING TO GO CRAZY NUTZ!
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Senor Hugo » Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:36 pm

Shadowman wrote:PW called it. It was a PSA this week. I'M GOING TO GO CRAZY NUTZ!


He jinxed it!

He's a witch! Burn him!
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Postby UltraPrimal » Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:16 pm

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Shadowman wrote:PW called it. It was a PSA this week. I'M GOING TO GO CRAZY NUTZ!


He jinxed it!

He's a witch! Burn him!

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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Shadowman » Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:02 pm

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UltraPrimal wrote:
Senor Hugo wrote:
Shadowman wrote:PW called it. It was a PSA this week. I'M GOING TO GO CRAZY NUTZ!


He jinxed it!

He's a witch! Burn him!

I'll get the wood!


I'll get the scented candles! Because fresh pine scent is always better than burning flesh.
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Psycho Warrior » Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:33 am

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Shadowman wrote:I'll get the scented candles! Because fresh pine scent is always better than burning flesh.

Planning my demise? that's a good cause. I'll notify blue command to hit Ctrl+F+U to simplify the paperwork.
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Psycho warrior wrote:Planning my demise? that's a good cause. I'll notify blue command to hit Ctrl+F+U to simplify the paperwork.


That so needs to be made into standard Windows function. Let's just call it "negative points against tech support" option.
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Postby Shadowman » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:24 pm

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The Happy Locust wrote:The flaws I can't figure out are: If there's no such things as Ghosts, then does that mean Tex is an AI too? And if so, how could both Omega and Tex inhabit the same body without realizing that Tex is an AI, or even have room for both minds?


It's likely that Tex had died and stayed dead when Donut killed her. Church, who still cared for Tex, unknowingly copied himself, with his memories of her, both as a way to cope with the loss, and to rationalize his own state of being.

There's no way of saying if Omega actually affected Tex, all that was heard was simply laughing. She would either have been destroyed by Gamma or Omega before or after Sheila crashes, or absorbed into the Meta. That would explain why Church couldn't find her.
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Shadowman » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:01 pm

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I just caught something:

Way back when, in episode 36 in Season 2, Church said they may have to get rid of Lopez, because Lopez was learning to resist possession.

Lopez was a robot, who's to say he didn't start a firewall program?
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Psycho Warrior » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:04 am

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Shadowman wrote:I just caught something:

Way back when, in episode 36 in Season 2, Church said they may have to get rid of Lopez, because Lopez was learning to resist possession.

Lopez was a robot, who's to say he didn't start a firewall program?

it's difficult to say. One theory is that everyone in the gulch is an AI. a flawed theory sure but nothing's air tight in RvB's storyline.
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby Shadowman » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:31 am

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Psycho Warrior wrote:
Shadowman wrote:I just caught something:

Way back when, in episode 36 in Season 2, Church said they may have to get rid of Lopez, because Lopez was learning to resist possession.

Lopez was a robot, who's to say he didn't start a firewall program?

it's difficult to say. One theory is that everyone in the gulch is an AI. a flawed theory sure but nothing's air tight in RvB's storyline.


At this point, I think they're trying for as much consistency as possible. Also, Caboose has blood, and while Simmons is mostly cyborg, Grif is all human. (With most of Simmon's organs)
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Re: New Red vs Blue series!

Postby UltraPrimal » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:50 pm

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Ah, but your forgetting 1 thing. Red vs Blue is a comedy. Comedies don't have do consistent to be funny. :P Maybe in the next episode, they'll say, "Just kidding!"
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Postby The Happy Locust » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:43 pm

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The Happy Locust wrote:The flaws I can't figure out are: If there's no such things as Ghosts, then does that mean Tex is an AI too? And if so, how could both Omega and Tex inhabit the same body without realizing that Tex is an AI, or even have room for both minds?


It's likely that Tex had died and stayed dead when Donut killed her. Church, who still cared for Tex, unknowingly copied himself, with his memories of her, both as a way to cope with the loss, and to rationalize his own state of being.

There's no way of saying if Omega actually affected Tex, all that was heard was simply laughing. She would either have been destroyed by Gamma or Omega before or after Sheila crashes, or absorbed into the Meta. That would explain why Church couldn't find her.


My votes for the "She's an AI too and currently absorbed by the meta" theory.
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